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Topic : 03/14 Mr. Wrong

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(Original Air Date: 01/18/07) Criminals, deadbeats and bad boys -- most women run from these types of men, but some say Mr. Wrong is the right guy for them. Kelly says her daughter, Heather, married Mr. Wrong, and the price she paid was losing her children. Kelly says Heather's husband, Earl, is an unfit father and can't provide for the family. Heather, 25, says she stands by her 41-year-old husband and wants her parents to stop sabotaging her marriage. Are Heather and Earl really unfit parents, or does Earl deserve a second chance? Then, Sarah, 29, says she's been married to three men in prison, and her current husband is serving a life sentence for murder. Even more shocking, she often takes her two young daughters to visit their step-dad behind bars, and she says they love to see him. Why is Sarah drawn to this type of man? Sarah's mom weighs in on her daughter's love life. And, a woman who gave up nearly 20 years of her life for a man in jail has an important message for Sarah. Will Sarah feel differently after meeting Darlene? Join the discussion.

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March 14, 2007, 4:55 pm PDT

YOU CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!

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Hi!  I just found out about my niece that is dating a child sex offender.  We had no idea about him before attending an overnight family New Year's Eve party. There were a total of 8 children under the age of 13, the youngest was 3, and none of us, but my niece and her parents knew about him.  She had finally told her parents just before Christmas and he was still allowed to come to our family parties.  What is wrong with people?  I was more upset after I was told and had time to think about it.  How can a person encourage someone like my niece to leave the guy and pursue other interests?  She is 27 years old and has been married once before.  The guy she married ended up being a loser too!  He was skitsophrenic and had gone off the deep end. 

 

I believe people can change, but why give them a chance to hurt my own kids or  my other little nieces or nephews?  I would forever be looking over my shoulder to make sure he wasn't going to do it to them.  I would hate to live this way the rest of my life.

 

I guess I am asking what can I do or say to help her realize this is wrong and she wouldn't be happy living this way either?  Any suggestions?

Most child molesters are NOT ALLOWED TO BE AROUND KIDS!      Call your local parole/probation department and ask if that is a normal part of their release of molesters.   In a lot of states it extends even beyond parole.

 

You can also look up your local child molesters online, go to google & put in your state and then "registered sex offenders"  and see if he is listed there.  Many sex offenders do not notify the parole department that they have moved, let alone that they are living with children in the home b/c they will go right back to prison...if no one ever checks then no one will know this dirty little secret.

 

You need to at least do the things I have suggested or some day in the future you may be living with a gulty heart since you didn't take action when you found out.

 

I know it's difficult to interfer with family members, many of us don't report things we should b/c of this entanglement.  You can do these things annon and no one will know; if you don't find any answers on the sex offender registry then you can breathe a sigh of relief, if you do need to act on it, then no matter what anyone in the family says, I THANK YOU in advance, you are saving a child from a  life of grief and self doubt, pain, possibly suicide, self destructive behaviors, self loathing or even becoming a sex addict in the future or an offender themselves.  

 

It takes courage to do it, but if you don't, please remember that you can't unring a bell.

 
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March 14, 2007, 5:18 pm PDT

Mr. Wrong...and the "DUMMIES"

   Guys,

              Women, by far, are a hell of a lot SMARTER than us guys...yet as far as a guy goes; women are very dumb.

 

Always the "LITTLE MISS FIX HIM " or I can CHANGE HIM.And everytime you "fix or change" the guy; and it works,,,you dump him because now he's boring.

 

What's important...BOTH sexes are here on this planet for one another.

 
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March 14, 2007, 5:27 pm PDT

03/14 Mr. Wrong

 
I too noticed when Dr. Phil asked Sarah who her husband had murdered that her response was something like "just some guy".  What was shocking to me was that Dr. Phil didn't call her on it.


 
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March 14, 2007, 6:12 pm PDT

Thank goodness for grandmothers...

for thanks to her, those children are in a stable environment and are with family who loves them and cares for them.

 

As for their so-called "parents" - thank you, Dr. Phil, for telling these two like it is!

 

A leopard cannot change his spots and his spouse is as guilty as he is of child neglect.  She appears NEVER to have put her children first - it is all about HER and HER needs.

 

I have news for her.  Once you become a mother your life takes a backseat while you protect and nuture your offspring....and that also means keeping things that will hurt children (ie...flammable liquids?!) out of their reach, and get them to doctors immediately if anything should happen. 

 

In a nutshell....as for future parenting rights for these two...all I can say is....DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOUR BUTT ON THE WAY OUT!

 

 

 

 

 
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March 14, 2007, 6:33 pm PDT

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   I am shocked that someone could think so low of themselves to think a "Bad Boy" is good enough for them, and said they would rather have someone in jail than someone beating on them at home. She said she could not find a good christian man on the "outside". Well good christian men are hard to find I have been trying to find one for nine years. However insted of going to a prison to find one I am just going to wait until God brings them to me, and of course her husband believes in God he is surving a life sentencs. Someone who might die in jail finds God real quick. I have tried looking for a good man in church, but they get snagged real quick, and there are not to many single men at chruch. They have had a few "single groups" but they fall part. A friend asked me if I wanted to "race for the ring"  I said no! because I don't think I will ever get married again. I am only looking for four things. First a man has to believe in God. Second he has to love me for me, Third he has to love my son for who he is and my son has special needs. I know that is going to have to be a good christian man to accept that. Last I only want a ten year age span either ten years younger or ten year older than me is all I will go, because I don't want to rob the cradle and I don't want a "Anna-Nicole thing". I have been waiting nine to ten years and haven't found one yet I proabely never will. but if I don't I would rather be a single parent than something unstable.

 

Sincerely.

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March 14, 2007, 6:52 pm PDT

I Hope You Don't Have Kids and Involved with an Earl!!!

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My Opinion:  Kelly is MANIPULATIVE and EVIL and should NOT have custody of those kids.  There are many confused situations for whatever reason.  If these children were with foster parents who had no emotional involvement with this family..... THEY WOULD ENCOURAGE HEALTHY VISITATION BETWEEN A MOTHER AND CHILD.  It's like Kelly USES THIS TO TORMENT AND CONTROL HEATHER.  I don't agree with some of Earl's behavior and there are alot of accidents, unusual ACCIDENTS that happen with kids.  But it's not like Earl said:  "Well kid, here's some lighter fluid go play with it  and here's the matches."  Accidents happen.  And alot of times non medical people DON'T KNOW when to take the kids to the Dr.  Although I may not agree with everything about Earl and Heather.... I feel sorry for Heather and having to have such an evil Mother..... Any mother who will not nuture a relationship between a Mother and children is EVIL.  Kelly is evil and I have no other word.  THIS IS ONE THING I HATE ABOUT OUR LEGAL SYSTEM.  ACCIDENTS get the same penalties as CRIMINALS WHO SIT AND PREMEDITATE THESE SORTS OF THINGS.  Maybe you need another mother Heather.  You need to be adopted.

Have you ever had a burn???  They are very painful, and the pain does not go away in a few minutes, the pain increases!!! 

 

It is a well known fact, if animals are abused in a home, that is just the doorstep into child or wife abuse. 

 

Your trying to tell us, these children would be better off with these two deadbeats, then with their grandparents who are providing them in a stable and loving environment, a place where they are safe and can get the emotional and physical care they need??

 

Come on, get REAL!!!

 
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March 14, 2007, 7:12 pm PDT

03/14 Mr. Wrong

For Sarah:

I don't care about whether this man is right or wrong for you.  He is poison to your children.  After watching the show, which was a repeat and I was just as upset the first time; all I can pray is that Social Services watched the show and removed the children from you.  I noticed that they were previously removed, and your choices for their well-being have not improved.  It must be truly sad to gravitate to the criminally insane and absolutely disgusting people in society.  However, after subjecting your children to being strip searched; how can you even sleep at night!  Most worry about their children being raped; you encourage them to be strip searched!  You teach them to go before rapist and murderers and to stare into the face of the devil.  I don't doubt that they will be very well prepared if they are raped in the future.  I have rarely met someone so criminally negligent in the care of their children.  I routinely see mothers who take their children to hotel rooms with their drug dealers and watch mom get high.  They are better mothers than you.  Disgusting and outlandish does not even closely cover your behavior.

 

Again, if it weren't for the kids, I wouldn't judge.  However, please understand that my judgement is based upon the welfare of the children.  You are a horrible mother that doesn't need to have them EVER.

 

 
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March 14, 2007, 8:20 pm PDT

03/14 Mr. Wrong

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Have you ever had a burn???  They are very painful, and the pain does not go away in a few minutes, the pain increases!!! 

 

It is a well known fact, if animals are abused in a home, that is just the doorstep into child or wife abuse. 

 

Your trying to tell us, these children would be better off with these two deadbeats, then with their grandparents who are providing them in a stable and loving environment, a place where they are safe and can get the emotional and physical care they need??

 

Come on, get REAL!!!

Nope Calgal 64 I don't have an Earl, but at one time I did have a Mr. Wrong, but I am happily divorced if there is such a thing.  Have I ever had a bum?  No.  Male golddigger?  Yes.

 

Your statement:  "It is a well known fact, if animals are abused in a home, that is just the doorstep into child or wife abuse." 

 

THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT STATEMENT IS:  It's like you are accusing someone who stole something of killing someone although they haven't yet.  Yes, both are wrong and crime, but in AMERICA:  We usually only hold people accountable for what they actually did, NOT WHAT WE THINK THEY MIGHT DO.

 

Your 3rd statement:  I already expressed all my opinions in previous posts and don't feel like reposting. 

 

Kelly is taking care of 3 little kids right now which is stressful and exhausting.  I've been there done that....  And I realize it is 2nd time around.  And I already posted earlier today that I think I did overreact in that post toward Kelly.  And it was a 1st reaction.  IF THOSE KIDS WERE IN A NON RELATIVE HOME WHO HAD NO EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT TO THE SITUATION.... those kids wouldn't be being used as a pawn.... but they would be hoping the birth Mom would be involved and glad if she visited..... regardless.

 

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March 14, 2007, 8:36 pm PDT

So many opinions

I have a daughter in Iraq fighting for our country and fighting for the very constitution that affords all of us the right to express our opinions...right, wrong or indifferent.  It becomes difficult for me to accept the fact her very life, along with many others, is on the line so that people can post comments that pass judgment on people with such generalities.  All inmates are bad.  All inmates should be discarded.  All inmates are useless.  These women who date inmates have low self-esteem, etc, etc.  I hope I never become one of those who makes a character assessment based on assumptions.  We are individuals.  Were is the compassion and understanding?  Every person has made a mistake, some much more serious than others, but we should all be afforded the opportunity to pay our dues and right our wrongs.  Convicts are those people who were caught.  I would venture to say that many of us have wronged others and likely deserved some sort of "punishment" .  I believe we should consider encouraging the self-improvement of these incarcerated individuals as they may one day be our neighbors whether we like it or not.  It is statistically proven that those convicts who have a support system in place upon release are less likely to re-offend. If anyone has been witness to the parole system in place in our country then they would likely agree when I say it is nearly impossible for a released individual to be successful.  So what do we do about that?  Do we determine that if a person is convicted and sentenced to prison, no matter what the offense, then they are "no good" and should never be released?  That just seems unreasonable to me.  For one thing, we as a society, cannot financially afford that position.  I noticed that immediately following 9-11 people demonstrated more kindness toward each.  They smiled at each other, opened doors for each other, let another vehicle in traffic. But it wasn't long until the attitudes went back to the hard and fast detached pace that was prevalent prior to 9-11.  I just don't understand what has happened to all of us.  I feel we are in a very sad state.  I wonder what is next for us all.  I hope  it is peace...in our country and in the countries where are soldiers and Marines face danger daily.

 
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March 14, 2007, 9:10 pm PDT

how can I contact DARLENE??

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Thank you so much for saying that. After all that was the reason we contacted Dr.Phil. We both knew we needed help and no one seemed to want to help. I know this is going to be a very long road for us. But I can honestly say there is only one who has given us any kind of hope and that is the lord. We have really looked to him since this all has happened. We've asked for his forgiveness and thats the only one that matters. Thanks again for seeing something in this.

Heather

Heather, Thanks for being so brave & being on the show. I can't relate AT ALL to you, but can't begin to tell you how my story is so similar to Darlenes!! I can't stop thinking about her. I'm close to being out of my 15 year marriage to my "prison love" who I met when I worked as a deputy sheriff....... shellysaucedo@yahoo.com
 
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