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(Original Air Date: 01/23/07) Do you know people whose egos are off the charts? Dr. Phil’s guests take self-love to the extreme. Renee believes that she’s right all the time and even brags that her friends worship her. Her fiancé, Chuck, says Renee is confused because he’s the one who excels at everything. The couple says their ego wars are all fun and games, so why were the police recently at their house? Then, Desiree says her husband-to-be, Anthony, thinks he’s God’s gift to women. She says he won’t go to the gas station without putting on cologne, tells his family he’s “sexy as hell,” and he even puts on stripteases … for himself! Anthony says he’s not conceited; he just has really high self-esteem. Is Anthony’s big head going to cause big problems in his relationship? Plus, don’t miss the hidden camera experiment that Dr. Phil conducts on his audience. Do you know a snob? Tell us!

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January 25, 2007, 1:05 am PST

CLEAR THINGS UP

Hello everyone. This is Renee from the Show. Let me start this off by saying I have not read the posts and I don’t plan on it, this is my last visit to the site. I was told by my friend that there was some nasty things being said and I don’t consume my life with negativity. But, I would like to say a few things. First of all, we were chosen to be on a different show about relationships and being competitive. Due to a wedding in our family we could not make it. The producers then called us and said we have a show for ya. When we heard the title we were a bit skeptical. This show you just viewed was taped over 2 months ago. Since the taping and listening to Dr. Phil’s advice, we realized how stupid some of our fights were. Most couples are fighting over serious issues such as infidelity, finances, or children. When we took a step back and saw how much time we spent fighting over things that didn’t matter,  we realized how lucky we both were to have each other. If you notice not one time in the show did we boast about looks, physic, or material things. We have never once put anyone one else down. I am a person who compliments everyone. I always see something beautiful in everyone. My greatest accomplishments are not on the ball field or the basketball court. They are within me. I have 2 beautiful, intelligent well mannered daughters. I have a wonderful career that I struggled to accomplish by going to college full time and working as a single mother to accomplish. I am a nurse. One of the most unselfish careers there is. Chuck is also a wonderful person. A lot of the nice things I did say about him were cut. He is amazing! I admire a lot of the qualities he has. He is the most unselfish person I have ever met and an amazing father to my girls. We have such a wonderful time together. We have amazing friends and family who we adore first and foremost and would do anything for. 

Thank you for listening to me ramble.

Renee’

 
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January 25, 2007, 4:18 pm PST

01/23 Snobs and Egomaniacs

Don't judge a person until you really get to know them first!  Everyone has false's! No ones perfect!!
 
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January 25, 2007, 6:23 pm PST

01/23 Snobs and Egomaniacs

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T.S.eliiot said something along the lines of , people want to feel importatnt. they don't mean to do harm, they are absorbed in an endless struggl to think well
 of themselves...that struck me as profoundly true.

Examine your own heart why her behaviout upsets you so much.  You seem to be reacting angrily that she throws her happiness in your face, and your way of dealing with it is to call her happiness fake.  It may well be fake, but what's that to you?

Your job isn't to judge her worthy or unworthy, but to appraise yourself and your situation. 
If you don't want to leave son and grandchild, simply assert your need - A warm family circle in a cold climate may be worth more than mild weather anywhere else.

Be sure and visit the area before you move, and see what its really like - maybe it is a nicer place to live.   You don't have to be knee jerk about it.   If you want to stay near family,  maybe that can be worked out.   Say what you want and don't apologise for wanting it.  It really has nothing to do with someone else's  lovely bosom. 

That quote is quite insightful!  I'm working on why I'm upset about this.  Egomaniacs, particularly braggers, have always rubbed me the wrong way, especially if they seem to be putting me down in their quest to elevate themselves.  What I didn't include in my original post was that we were considering moving to that area originally, but  we were unable to find work there.  Since that time, she took our idea and ran with it, moved to that area themselves and prospered, and have openly taken great pity on us since.  I don't like to be pitied.  That, I think, is the greatest part of my anger.  We do have a life here! 

 

Your advice on being assertive is reality-based and I will take this to heart.  Thanks for all your insights.

 
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January 26, 2007, 8:23 am PST

being beautiful

   I had a friend that was very beautiful like the two ladies you had on your show 1-23-07.  She lived in my apartment complex and we became close friends.  I'm wouldn't call myself pretty, but she never had a problem with that.  I get along with alot of pretty people, but I saw in my friends life alot of other people, who were not secure in themselves enough to appreciate the physical beauty in another person.  My friend had alot of this critisim regarding this, and I never saw any problems with her being a snob or stuck on herself, rather I saw people hurt her, alot.  She had husbands that would go out on her and she could never understand this.  I'm sure she might of had things inside of her that she struggled with.  She had this stuff happen to her so much she went to a store a bought a rifle, drove to her grandparents land where they lived and shot herself in the head.  She had 2 beautiful children.  I still talk to her husband today, he has married another woman that looks similar to my friend and has started going to church after all this happened.  She helped me see being beautiful wasn't so easy.
 
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January 26, 2007, 7:07 pm PST

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Hello everyone. This is Renee from the Show. Let me start this off by saying I have not read the posts and I dont plan on it, this is my last visit to the site. I was told by my friend that there was some nasty things being said and I dont consume my life with negativity. But, I would like to say a few things. First of all, we were chosen to be on a different show about relationships and being competitive. Due to a wedding in our family we could not make it. The producers then called us and said we have a show for ya. When we heard the title we were a bit skeptical. This show you just viewed was taped over 2 months ago. Since the taping and listening to Dr. Phils advice, we realized how stupid some of our fights were. Most couples are fighting over serious issues such as infidelity, finances, or children. When we took a step back and saw how much time we spent fighting over things that didnt matter,  we realized how lucky we both were to have each other. If you notice not one time in the show did we boast about looks, physic, or material things. We have never once put anyone one else down. I am a person who compliments everyone. I always see something beautiful in everyone. My greatest accomplishments are not on the ball field or the basketball court. They are within me. I have 2 beautiful, intelligent well mannered daughters. I have a wonderful career that I struggled to accomplish by going to college full time and working as a single mother to accomplish. I am a nurse. One of the most unselfish careers there is. Chuck is also a wonderful person. A lot of the nice things I did say about him were cut. He is amazing! I admire a lot of the qualities he has. He is the most unselfish person I have ever met and an amazing father to my girls. We have such a wonderful time together. We have amazing friends and family who we adore first and foremost and would do anything for. 

Thank you for listening to me ramble.

Renee

 For Renee and Chuck:

 

 I'm glad to hear that you were both able to take a step back and re-evaluate your relationship and what you want from it.  I know from experience how difficult it is to manage the fragile loving competitiveness that exists with most couples.  You are both lovely people, and it's nice to hear that you are together and happy with your family.  If it's at all helpful, my ex and I (who are very close friends and lovingly raising our son), now see how we too had silly competitive fights where we were both wanting to hear from our partner those congratulatory words about how good we are at tennis, swimming, hiking (we almost killed each other on a cliff hehe), hell, even who read the fastest!  We realized that we both needed those words because somewhere inside we were just not feeling 'good' about ourselves.  Not completely but just a little insecure.  We realized that it does make a difference to tell each other every once in a while how much you mean to the other person, to acknowledge the effort made by each other, and to praise each other.  We also realized that sometimes you have to just trust in yourself or find this praise in other places or other people.  Because your partner is not perfect and able to read your mind.  Most likely your partner does feel these positive things about you, but you know how that competitive stubborness keeps ya from saying it (the 'dammit he should say it to ME' or 'she never compliments ME' stuff).  It does help to laugh about it sometimes!  One day he had me literally grunting while i hit the tennis ball (because i wanted to take his head off) and later I had to just laugh at how nutty it can become!  Plain fact is, men are not good at this stuff - they can feel threatened by an athletic female.  Also, we women tend to want our man to tell us how they feel (and they hate that), or how we want them to tell us how good we look after a new haircut (most likely they see the new look and like it, but they cant read minds about what we want to hear from them).  I had to learn to play golf with my lady friends (so it was actually fun hehe) and that only certain games can be played with your partner.  Unfortunately i learned a little too late how important communication is between partners.  There is a fine line between talking about things and beating things to death, too.  Sometimes it helps to just let things go.  Men like to hear from us how good they look too, and it never hurts to notice how well they please you or seem to be the most intelligent of all our male friends.  Be well and take care of each other. Renee go play with your lady friends and wow them...maybe we'll meet on a tennis court or golf course someday ;)

 
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January 27, 2007, 7:10 am PST

Putting down women

Renee,

One thing you need to look at  (ESPECIALLY since you have daughters) is the negative comments you made about women.   You referred to women as less then men (what do you do, wear a skirt?)   and you made a comment referencing that housewives are whiny.   I think you must be in your late 20's and hopefully in another 10 years you can see yourself and our world with more open and optimistic eyes.

 

I know it's hard being on the show.....I've been on one too (not Dr Phil's).   So, I understand the editing etc.   Don't let all that stop you from evaluating yourself and making improvements.  We ALL need to make improvements, you just put your faults out there for the world to see.  That was brave of you and I'm sure there are thousands of women like you and relationships similar to yours (portrayed on the show) that can relate and learn from you!

 

I'm glad you guys are doing well.  I think seeing yourself on TV really helps.  I act like that?  I said that?   It's a tough (public) way to learn, but in the long run, I'm sure you'll be the better for it!

 

Good Luck,

Jennifer

 
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January 30, 2007, 12:41 pm PST

Better not smile

While the first two girls were not very articulate, I have to agree with them - you can not afford to smile at everyone, especially if you are a pretty girl. It gets you followed. As a formerly "pretty girl", I have been caught smiling at people, (men) and have then been followed around inside stores, and followed several times after having been caught smiling in a car. I am sure there were people who considered me a snob, but self protection and safety required it.  As far as that phrase "she thinks she's better than everybody else" - we need to put it right up there with those other manipulative phrases "Don't you trust me?' and " Are you calling me a liar?" Whenever I hear those phrases my red flag goes up with a MANIPULATOR ALERT. I am sure I am not the only that realizes that phrase is a  leveling tactic. Another thing is - if I stopped to talk with every person, every time I looked at them, I would never get any work done. It is enough to acknowledge them, without a smile.    Thanks.
 
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January 30, 2007, 1:13 pm PST

Renee

I watched the show with my jaw dropped. I could hardly believe my ears, the comments and names you call your fiance. I could have cried for him. As well, I can empathize with you as well, not getting the respect you need but your asking for it the wrong way hun. My relationship went into the toilet as well and it needed a big change. It's great now and please take my advice, I give it with total understanding.

Please read the books published by John Gray. They are scary real and will make sense as to why your not getting what you need, and neither is he. It's not about the ego trip. You will be amazed, trust me. If there is one thing you could do in your life to make you and your partner happy it is to read these.

 

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February 3, 2007, 11:08 am PST

be realistic in your actions

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Ok, remember, we  teach people how to treat us and if you are still allowing this so called husband to manipulate and treat you worse then dirt,t ehn that is your fault. Iknow it is easier said then done, but if you want a better life, if you want to be treated with love and dignity, then leaave him NOW. I am aChristian and I beleive in marriage 100%, I bleieve God is for marriage as well but we are also taught to respect one another, ot exactly in those words, but where in the Bible does it say, the husband is to abuse, manipulate and mistreat his wife? IT DOESN"T, it tells the husabnd to love their wives as Christ loved the church and what did he do for the Churc, HE died for it, he did not abuse and maniputae.

I also believe people can change, but if they are not given the opportunity, or told "to get help, change or you lose" type of thing then they are not gonna do it. WHy do you put upw ith it? What is in this marriage thatyou keeps you there? Do you enjoy being treated like crap or do you want something done aboutit? If you want something done about it, tehn do something. I believe God wants us to be happy but he expects us to help our selves, you deserve better and if heisn't willing to change and be a good loving husband then that's his choice, not yours. I beleive in both spouses putting in 100% as marriage is about ttwo people, not one and your marriage,w ell, it doesn't sound like a marriage, it sounds like a torture chamber for you any way.

We teach people how to treat us so if you want to be treated better, do something about it, regardless of how easy hard it might be, reach out, find help, something, otherwise, things will always stay the same and that's a choice you are going to have to make.
I found Dr Phil's description of leveling very interesting. I too had a husband who uses leveling to build himself up. I left him 3 years ago. I was watching my children begin to judge others by their looks and their possessions.  That was not nearly the only reason I left but when you see things effect your children it's time to recognize it. I have to warn you that leaving him is not a fix all and in my case accelerated the problem. Now I am the brunt of his attacks. He makes remarks about my house, my car, my choices and my new husband who the boys adore. I never realized how insecure he is but while I am moving on with my life he isn't and insists on demeaning me and my life to the boys. He has always been more about possessions than family and would spend hours polishing everything from his truck  to lawn tractor instead of being with the boys and I. As far as having the court protect the boys from his constant attacks about me and my family - forget it!! I have spent thousands and talked to everyone I can to get him to stop to no avail. The boys have learned not to mention me, my husband, their step siblings or any activities we do to him as he always has a nasty comment and they are under attack. So, I believe this use of leveling is widely used and leaving your partner does not totally resolve it but I must say the children and myself are much happier as we have a reprieve from the negativity.       
 
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June 16, 2007, 12:17 pm PDT

06/20 Snobs and Egomaniacs

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While the first two girls were not very articulate, I have to agree with them - you can not afford to smile at everyone, especially if you are a pretty girl. It gets you followed. As a formerly "pretty girl", I have been caught smiling at people, (men) and have then been followed around inside stores, and followed several times after having been caught smiling in a car. I am sure there were people who considered me a snob, but self protection and safety required it.  As far as that phrase "she thinks she's better than everybody else" - we need to put it right up there with those other manipulative phrases "Don't you trust me?' and " Are you calling me a liar?" Whenever I hear those phrases my red flag goes up with a MANIPULATOR ALERT. I am sure I am not the only that realizes that phrase is a  leveling tactic. Another thing is - if I stopped to talk with every person, every time I looked at them, I would never get any work done. It is enough to acknowledge them, without a smile.    Thanks.

Are you serious? Just smiling at someone gets you followed? I got followed around the store once...and I didn't know the man was in the store. Eventually I caught on...and he came up to me and asked me if I'd slap him if he told me something...I told him whether he got slapped or not depended on what he'd say. He just told me that he thought I had spectacular legs. That's it. Was he a nutcase? Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know...and it all happened without my smiling at him.

Smiling at someone is infectious. There are some who will smile back..some who won't. It has nothing to do with being pretty or not. It's just one of those "nice" things that people don't do often enough. You never know what kind of day the person you're smiling at has had...and sometimes...it just might make their day just a little bit better.

I think there are other reasons why someone would think a person "better than", just b/c they don't smile. Maybe sending "vibes" of some kind or another....

 
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