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Topic : 07/18 Fatal Attraction?

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(Original Air Date: 01/29/07) Everyone wants to be loved, but what happens when being the object of someone's affection turns creepy or even fatal? Celebrities are not the only targets – stalkers can be found in any neighborhood and town. Michelle says her ex-boyfriend, Melvin, is obsessed with her, and she fears for her life. Melvin admits he constantly thinks about Michelle and can't live without her in his life, but he says he gets mixed messages from her. Find out the extremes Melvin has gone to in his relationship with Michelle, and why his actions prevented him from coming to Los Angeles for the taping of the show. And, why does Dr. Phil tell Michelle she's playing with fire? Then, Katrina has been infatuated with rap star, Jay-Z, for the last three years. She sends him 200 e-mails a day, has called him over 300 times and has even tried to befriend his best friend and sister. She is convinced that if Jay-Z met her, he would want to be with her, but is she willing to risk jail time just to get close to him? And, meet a Hollywood actress who was stalked on the big screen … and then in real life. Why does she fear her stalker may strike again? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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January 30, 2007, 6:35 am PST

Fatal Attraction Stalking

Katrina,

 

I am not her to judge you and I don't think you are a bad person. I feel we as human beings we must give people the benefit of the doubt  and look at all of the factors concerning your lust for this superstar (past and present).  I do not want to see you or anyone else go to jail. or even become in danger of doing so.  

 

Consider stopping the e mail letters and contacting his staff.  You must understand

1. With as many as you have sent over 200,  He must have read some of them. 

   There's no way he couldn't have.

2. He is aware of who you are  and

3. Knows what you look like or if he didn't he would after the show.   

 

Also , What do you have to offer ?  Financially,  ?  Education ?

Education wise, if you don't have a higher education level meaning 4 Yr. college degree. You need to consider entering college and then earning an MBA. 

 

I sincerely hope you do read my post today,

I do wish you the best

Patrice t

 
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January 30, 2007, 7:48 am PST

Some Men Just Can't Be Friends

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  There is a police officer where I live that drives me CRAZY. All I want to do is BE FRIENDS! He wants more! He goes to my neighbors and tells them how much he wants me and he just can't seem to get me out of his  mind. I have not sent him mixed messages or anything else. I try not to answer my phone or my door now unless I know who is there. He comes on at 2 in the afternoon and I try NOT to go outside of my house due to the fact if he sees me, he will pull up in my yard and talk for 2-3 hours! Our small town is paying him to talk to me and my neighbors for sitting in or at our house for nearly 5 hours a day, talking. I do not want to go to the cheif of police because he will not and can not keep his mouth SHUT!!!! I am also afraid this man will retalleate and start giving my kids and family trumped up tickets. I don't want any trouble and have only told one sister about this. She says to  ignore him but that is not easy and she DOES NOT understand. He goes up and down my  street like what seems like a hundred times constantly! I do not feel fear of him but rather bothered by him. I like the man as a friend ONLY but I am begining to not even want him to be a friend.

  One of my daughters has decided I need someone and since heis NOT married and has some money, he is the one. My neighbors seem to think so too. I have told them that he is not the kind of man I want. He is nice and kind but there is NOTHING THERE and I want all of them to tend to their own business and I want him to LEAVE ME ALONE! He is 60 and I will be 54 in March.  I mafde a HUGE mistake and went out to eat with him ONE time because everyone begged me to. Now I cant shake him loose. ANY suggestions?

I agree with KEC132.  If you haven't already, you need to let this guy know that you only want to be friends!  You need to make it very clear also that you mean, Platonic friends, NOT friends with Benefits!  You may not think you have sent mixed messages but you have.  You sound like a really nice person and so I am sure you are nice and friendly to him when you see him.  Talking for 2 or 3 hours in the yard?  Hello?  To that guy, he clearly believes there is a chance, remember most men do not believe men and women can just be friends so because you take the time to chat with him, and even went to dinner once, is a clear signal to him that he has a chance with you if he pursues it.  Also you say that your neighbors are telling him to go for it, even one of your daughters.  As it stands right now, in his mind, there is no reason he should stop what he is doing.  As for him driving up and down your street constantly, you said that he told your neighbors, quote" I just can't get her out of my mind".  Well he is obsessing over you yes, he is acting more like a lovestruck teenager than a 60 year old man.  Stalker!  Not yet.  Not until you have made it CRYSTAL CLEAR that you are not interested, and everyone in town knows you are not interested, THEN if he continues to pursue you, or starts retaliating by abusing his position to harass your family, THEN he is a stalker, then you need to get hold of a lawyer and so on. 

I am 47 and have lived alone for years after a painful divorce.  I have had a male friend in my life who wanted to be more than friends.  I like you was nice.  I liked them as a person.  I did not have many friends, period, so I liked having him as a friend.  He just happened to be male.  I was so not attracted to him.  I had known him for years, we lived in the same small town.  He became more friendly once I was single.  I never thought about this because when I was married I stayed home and didn't go out and socialize at all.  This guy worked 1000 miles away  for most of the year ,so most of our relationship was by phone.  I really enjoyed talking to him.  But I would have gagged to have been intimate with him.  Anyways for the first few months, we were just good friends I thought.  Nothing had come up to make me think that he wanted more.  He came home last summer, and I took him up to see my brother in the hospital in another town, we had to stay over at my Mothers.  I started noticing then, how he seemed to be acting kinda like he was my boyfriend or something.  but I ignored it.  He never made any physical moves on me, if fact we did not even hug, and I always hug people I have not seen in awhile.  He would occasionally  say things like how he remembered when he first saw me, how he liked me then,  how he always knew I was a nice person, how I had been too good for my ex, etc.  Well I never gave this I thought, other than to talk about what we were like when we were in our 20's. Of course now I know he was clearly telling me he thought of me as more than a friend, even back then.  Well over time, I did start to notice he sounded kinda like a boyfriend when he called me.  I wondered if it was for the benefit of people in the room with him.  I started thinking, "Is he pretending to people that him and I are together?"  So I made it a point to start telling him EVERY TIME he phoned how we were just friends.  He would always agree, and didn't seem to understand even why I was bringing it up.  Finally one night I said, we are friends, good friends, but not friends with benefits, not romantic or boyfriend, girlfriend kinda thing. Well, the phone went silent.  Then he wanted to know why not.  He then spent the next hour trying to convince me why we should be more, and how he thought we were.  I spent it trying to convince him I why we were not.  The point of this for you is that apparently saying you just want to be friends is not clear enough you need to spell it out. I told a mutual friend this about a month ago, she agreed that he was acting like we were an item, even to her and her husband on the phone.  She said you need to tell him, I said I have at least 10 times, she said do you want me to say something, I said yes for gods sakes , sure go for it.   Sadly I have lost this person as a good friend.  We talked on the phone a few more times, I kept it light, He continued to act like we were an item, stuff like, oh wait till I come home next spring, I will help you with that, I want to take you fishing,  we can do this and that. He was making plans and I could see it was in a more than two good friends doing something together kind of way for him.  He told me that when I started up a relationship with a guy 2 years ago, ( it only lasted 6 months) that was why he stopped calling me at that time.  Our  mutual friend  was finally talking to him a week or so ago and told him  quite frankly in no uncertain terms that I was NEVER going to like him in that way.  So he now could care less about me. I called him last week as I had not heard from him in 2 weeks and I knew he had recently lost his job and was moving so I just wanted to see if he was okay and he was polite, quiet, no emotion, Sad. I never said anything, but I knew then, my friend must have been speaking to him.  I hung up and said, well there's gos another friend.   I really don't get how come I can't have male friends. This has happened to me twice.  My girlfriends say its because I am too nice, I am single,  would be a good catch , they don't see me dating, and that  spending a lot of time with a guy means there is a chance. So My advice to you Miss little country is to go about letting your neighbors know that you are not interested in him that way, be firm and tell them its not funny, this really bothers you.  Then you need to let him know, and stop talking so long, that was the biggest part of my problem too.  Even when I would say I was not interested, by talking and talking for a couple hours, that lead him to believe I liked him.  God.  I did just not that way! But some guys don't get it.  So please try some of these things if you need to. Let me be clear, I do not believe you can be friends with him now , he wants a romance with you, if you don't, he will feel rejected. there is no way around it I am sorry to say. Hopefully he will just stop coming around.  But please, please, make sure you tell people how you feel about him, loudly.  Also by trying to just stay friends and him having his illusions, you are reducing your chances of meeting someone who you do feel an attraction for, to zero.  No one will be the slightest bit interested in you, they will all believe this policeman is your guy.  Good Luck!

 

 

 
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January 30, 2007, 7:54 am PST

01/29 Fatal Attraction?

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I am a domestic violence professional and I am a little concerned with the tone that Dr. Phil took with Michelle.  I heard Dr, P take the same tone that I have heard for the past 4 years that I have been doing this work, "Just stay away"  It's not that simple.  My guess would be that Michelle suffers from extremely low self-esteem and probably has domestic violence very deeply seated in her family of origin.  Her husband has more than likely convinced her that no one will ever have her and she is lucky that he is willing to put up with her.  Tell some one something long enough they start to believe it themselves.  I wish that the good Dr had had a domestic violence expert on the program to shed a little light on what is behind the thought process of this victim.  Michelle needs lots of therapy.  I will pray for her and if she reads this, Michelle PLEASE call your local domestic violence advocacy center or the national hotline, they care and can help you learn how to live a happy and violence free life.  God bless you.
I think that had you heard and paid attention to the whole piece you would not feel the need to share your expertise. 
 
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January 30, 2007, 8:11 am PST

Right!

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Dahhhh, It's called Stockholm Syndrom!  A term I should think someone at your level would be familiar with.  I've heard the term from as many as 5 different counsellors reguarding my 10 year marriage.  He's done many similar things to me and all the counsellors said the same thing....get out...just get out...like it should be easy or something.  When you asked why she stays the blank look and tears told you she's not sure herself so to get the bully tough guy routine out doesn't work on her....trust me she's already seen that from her abuser.  Go please and get some professional training on how people can recover from this and I'll be sure to watch That show with much anticipation....
I love the way people (self-appointed experts all) through around terms like Stockholm Syndrome as if they understood them.  In fact, you are so well informed that you feel the need to explain it to Dr. Phil.  I sincerely doubt if you know much about the syndrome or you wouldn't be making it exclusively locked in partnership with abuse.  I'm sorry you were abused, but believe it or not, it does not give a person exclusivity on a problem.  This is especially true of something as complex and widespread as abuse.  This woman on the program is no longer physically with the abuser and he is ordered to remain away from her.  Yet she initiates contact.  She has placed her sexual pleasure ahead of the lives of her children.  With all the people caught in true abuse situations, she'll garner no pity from me.  Once she puts her children ahead of herself, then I'll listen.
 
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January 30, 2007, 8:16 am PST

That's Right

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This was a good show, Most  of the men that become obsessed  are control freaks. This past year in Dec.My youngest daughter was attacked brutally by the man that said he loved her. she received 15 stitches, and suffered a concussion from this attack. We (The  parents) have her out of town with one of her sisters. These young women need to learn that LOVE DOES NOT HURT. If it hurts it's not love
You are so right about those men.  They are all control freaks.  I hope you escaped from the one you married!  Good luck!
 
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January 30, 2007, 8:34 am PST

How do you know?

I received an email from a man in 2005.  In the email, he asked me if I was a person that had the same name as me (she also had an AKA), he also told me that he invest in Real Estate but hasn't in my state.  I responded informing him that I was not the person he spoke of but if he wanted to invest in Real Estate, I would help him.  I received one more email from him and never thought anything of it.  In December 06', I received a letter from this man.  He had tracked down my home address.  The letter was very disturbing - he believes I am a dead girl.  I have since learned that this girl does not exsist.  He told someone that he was going to get me and that I have ruined his life and that I tricked him into believing I was this dead girl.  The man is in jail right now (on other charges - nothing to do with me). I'm not for sure it is actually stalking - I just believe he is a very confused man with some mental illness and my hopes are that once he gets out of jail, I will be long forgotten. 
 

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January 30, 2007, 8:37 am PST

Where is the post that I posted last night ?

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I am a domestic violence professional and I am a little concerned with the tone that Dr. Phil took with Michelle.  I heard Dr, P take the same tone that I have heard for the past 4 years that I have been doing this work, "Just stay away"  It's not that simple.  My guess would be that Michelle suffers from extremely low self-esteem and probably has domestic violence very deeply seated in her family of origin.  Her husband has more than likely convinced her that no one will ever have her and she is lucky that he is willing to put up with her.  Tell some one something long enough they start to believe it themselves.  I wish that the good Dr had had a domestic violence expert on the program to shed a little light on what is behind the thought process of this victim.  Michelle needs lots of therapy.  I will pray for her and if she reads this, Michelle PLEASE call your local domestic violence advocacy center or the national hotline, they care and can help you learn how to live a happy and violence free life.  God bless you.

Board moderator ---  Where is the somewhat lengthy post that I made very late last night?  

 

I don't see it this morning.

 

If I'm having trouble locating it please assist me in finding it.   I do realize there is a delay and most especially when folks are not on duty into the night.  Understandable.

 

If the post was removed, could you please help me understand why ?

 

I had discussed Dr. Phil's approach to the situation with Michelle.

 

I also discussed the use of Domestic Violence Experts.

 

I touched briefly on the legal matters regarding the show.

 

There was other input on my part.

 

And to end the post, I offered some resources to any and all abused women.

 

Is my post still in the holding pattern?

 

Or did it truly get removed.

 

Should I check back later on?   

 

Or should I continue to wonder ?

 

Thank you in advance for some insight.

 

 

 
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January 30, 2007, 8:47 am PST

The nextdoor neighbor lady is stalking me

A couple moved  in next door to me last May and the woman immediately began a campaign of harassment towards me.  (She doesn't work and I am their only neighbor.) She is married to a pedophile who was convicted of sexually molesting her own daughter in 1986, and she remained married to him!  To me this proves she is a sick person, but the authorities don't seem to think it means anything.  She calls the prosecutor on me regulary, saying I am doing things I am not doing.  The police have been to my home a half dozen times because of her.  She got animal control to issue me a $513 barking citation for my dog.  I own my home, have lived there 11 years and nobody has ever contacted me about my dog.  I hired an attorney, went to court with witnesses to fight it and the judge dismissed the barking ticket.  The neighbor didn't even show up in court. I can't go out in my yard without her coming out, standing on her back porch and staring at me.  I've caught her creeping around outisde my home at 11:00 at night.  I got an anti-harassment order and when I call the police, they don't do anything about it.  I'm tired of it but don't want to sell my home since it will be paid off in under 4 years.  Besides, this is my home and my neighborhood, not theirs.  I asked my lawyer what I can do about them, but all he can tell me is to watch my back.

 
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January 30, 2007, 8:47 am PST

01/29 Fatal Attraction?

Quote From: yolandar

I am being stalked by cell phone, for a year now I have been stalked by the person calling my cell phone day and night , I have changed my cell phone number and a week later who ever is stalking me started calling me I have no idea how they found out my new cell phone number because I gave it to NO one but they did and they have been calling day and night to my cell phone, it has gotton so bad I now keep my cell phone shut off unless I go out then when I get home I shut it off again. someone please help me what can I do I cannot seem to get any help.
Have you tried life without a cell phone?  Many people have done it successfully for years.
 
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January 30, 2007, 8:56 am PST

Fatal Attraction

I hope and pray that the people on the show yesterday get much needed help!!!  I feel someone may end up DEAD if something is not done NOW!!  Please listen to Dr. Phil and help your selves! 
 
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