Topic : 07/23 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 3

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Created on : Friday, February 09, 2007, 02:49:12 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/12/07) Three couples continue an intensive workshop with Dr. Phil, in a last-ditch effort to save their marriages. After almost getting kicked out of the house, Nic and Amanda sit down with Dr. Phil to discuss their biggest issues: their falling out with Nic’s mother, Amanda’s job as an exotic dancer and the affair she’s been having with a patron. With surprise visits from his mother and the man sleeping with his wife, Nic struggles with his emotions. Can he get everything on the table and find some closure? Will Amanda be unified with her husband and tell the other man that it’s over for good? Then, Cherie watches from another room as her husband, John, talks with Dr. Phil, but it's not long before she becomes outraged by what she hears. She joins the men to tell her side of the story. Plus, does an unexpected visit by Cherie’s mother make John pack up and leave? Join the discussion.

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February 13, 2007, 12:36 pm PST

02/12 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 3

Quote From: proudneighbor

I have already stated several times that I am one of Amanda's close friends...I know FOR A FACT that she doesn't have a drug problem. She was going to school full time and the only way to help contribute and put food in the house was to work nights, in this area there aren't many place to work at night unless your dancing. Try living a week in her and her husbands lives and then judge.
its good they have a friend as you for a neaghbor, im not saying amanda is a bad person all im saying is she seems to have really made a bad choice in a job for a married woman, and nic wineing about something from his childhood like a kid teasing him becouse his mother was a little on the heavy side was just plain childesh for him to do!!! just how in the world can he ever handle some one teasing him about his wife having a job as a stripper, i say stripper becouse dr phil stood on camera and made it clear she took her clothes off for other men to entertain them, but just how will nic handle this? wow they do have an abundance of problems, how long have they been togather? how long do you think this will last if something doesnt change and change really fast? i do not sit here and hope they end there life togather, i hope and pray with all my heart they both do the rite thing and listen and follow dr phils directions to the letter, if they both give 100% they will overcome this problem, but both must give 100% not 90/10.
 
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February 13, 2007, 12:48 pm PST

02/12 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 3

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So you think that all women who are beaten deserve it somehow because they were somehow disrespectful? My mother was beaten by her first husband, she did all you claim can protect you from being beaten...she was still beaten.

Men beat their wives because THEY are bad, not because their wives are bad.
not only is a man who beates his wife bad but lets add coward too. ive been kicked where no man wants to be kicked before by my ex wife ive been slaped in the face and punched in the mouth as well by her, but i still would not raise my hand to her in anger,thers no exscuse for a man to hit a woman!!!, in all honesty i kind of had it coming lol, it was a learning experance, i learned what not to say  hehehehe.
 
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February 13, 2007, 12:50 pm PST

02/12 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 3

Quote From: proudneighbor

Nic stated that he supported her choice...what that really means only he and Amanda know, at least for now....
its good that nic supports amanda in her choices, but in this case hes kind of poreing salt in a open wound.
 
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February 13, 2007, 1:07 pm PST

02/12 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 3

Quote From: julie1418

No kidding! That mentality blows me away. Abusers are not CREATED by a lack of respect. If I was disrespectful, or even unfaithful (purely hypothetical:) to MY husband, he might divorce me, but he would cut off his hand before he would raise it to me. Let's not REWARD abusers by validating their unreasonable need for "respect."
Exactly. My husband also would not abuse me for anything. Not verbally, not physically. Men don't walk around with an automatic call for respect. Respect, even in a marriage is earned and maintained.
 
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February 13, 2007, 1:16 pm PST

02/12 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 3

Quote From: afraid

its good that nic supports amanda in her choices, but in this case hes kind of poreing salt in a open wound.
Believe it or not, not all men and women see stripping as a negative thing. Would I do it? No. Would my husband want me to do it? No. But some people do it, they enjoy it and their spouses aren't bothered by it. That's their prerogative.
 
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February 13, 2007, 1:17 pm PST

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 Shaming and embarrassing Amanda is vicious and cruel and doesn't benefit anyone. It didn't profit me watching her go through this, it’s like she said she already has shame down.   I felt it was pointless and redundant.

 

I won't lie and say there’s no easier way. I'm not recommending everyone go out and do what she did.  We’re deeper than that, all we have to do is think.  We’re all connected, we’re all sharing a separate experience this gives us the capacity to look at things from a different point of view. she’s not just a stripper, she’s a million things we don’t even know that we can't even comprehend.  There isn’t just one way to any place, not even heaven.

 

And now I have to repeat this to myself because personally, I find I'm being extremely judgmental of Cherri.

 
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February 13, 2007, 1:30 pm PST

02/12 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 3

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its good they have a friend as you for a neaghbor, im not saying amanda is a bad person all im saying is she seems to have really made a bad choice in a job for a married woman, and nic wineing about something from his childhood like a kid teasing him becouse his mother was a little on the heavy side was just plain childesh for him to do!!! just how in the world can he ever handle some one teasing him about his wife having a job as a stripper, i say stripper becouse dr phil stood on camera and made it clear she took her clothes off for other men to entertain them, but just how will nic handle this? wow they do have an abundance of problems, how long have they been togather? how long do you think this will last if something doesnt change and change really fast? i do not sit here and hope they end there life togather, i hope and pray with all my heart they both do the rite thing and listen and follow dr phils directions to the letter, if they both give 100% they will overcome this problem, but both must give 100% not 90/10.
 She was stripping when her husband met her!  If he had a problem with that then he shouldn't have dated, fell in love and married her.

Evidently it was either discussed or implied she would continue stripping.  He is not her father!  He is her husband and if he doesn't like what she does for a living that is truly "his problem".  However, I don't think it's him that has the problem with it, I believe it's the other men in the house and you.

I cracked up when Dr. Phil said that the other ladies in the house don't like her because they don't want their husbands going into strip bars or something of that nature.  If my husband went into a strip bar I'd be angry at him not the stripper.  She's just up there making a buck (I understand it's good money) and he could be anyone.  Men know when they enter the bar what they are going to see, that's why they go there!!! 

What do you think....men just innocently go into an establishment to have a cup of coffee and all of a sudden, without warning a woman is just standing there naked????  And then the men cover their eyes and cry in horror????

Give me a break will ya?
 
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February 13, 2007, 2:33 pm PST

02/12 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 3

Quote From: sugarboog

 She was stripping when her husband met her!  If he had a problem with that then he shouldn't have dated, fell in love and married her.

Evidently it was either discussed or implied she would continue stripping.  He is not her father!  He is her husband and if he doesn't like what she does for a living that is truly "his problem".  However, I don't think it's him that has the problem with it, I believe it's the other men in the house and you.

I cracked up when Dr. Phil said that the other ladies in the house don't like her because they don't want their husbands going into strip bars or something of that nature.  If my husband went into a strip bar I'd be angry at him not the stripper.  She's just up there making a buck (I understand it's good money) and he could be anyone.  Men know when they enter the bar what they are going to see, that's why they go there!!! 

What do you think....men just innocently go into an establishment to have a cup of coffee and all of a sudden, without warning a woman is just standing there naked????  And then the men cover their eyes and cry in horror????

Give me a break will ya?
hahahaha hell yeah men go to strip bars for coffee and good conversation dont they?  hahahahahah, and as for your break im sorry im all out of kit cat bars  hahahahaha.
 
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February 13, 2007, 2:37 pm PST

02/12 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 3

Quote From: zoey1965

Maybe DrPhil is OLD SCHOOL, but these couples came to him and agreed to be on his show. He's been in the business of helping people sort out their problems for over 30 years, so that would qualify him to make his recommendations based on what he has observed and heard from these people. PRESUMPTIOUS in telling her to end the affair? She was supposed to be there to save her marriage. He shouldn't even have to tell her to end it.  She's not the first person he has told that to. How in the world do you think DrPhil can help this couple save their marriage if she doesn't dump her boyfriend. I don't think he was bullying her, just making it clear to her that her boyfriend had to go if she wanted to make her marriage work.
I agree that she needed to end the affair for the marriage to have any chance of working. 

What I meant was if anyone was going to demand she end the affair, it should have been her husband, not the doc.  Or, she should have said that she would end it on her own.  The way the doc went about it, it was(the way I saw and heard it)like he was ordering her to end this on his show right here right now no ifs and or buts about it.   To me, he seemed very pushy and bossy and I dont think anyone would have spoke their true feelings at the point. 

I would have prefferred to see her or her husband push that issue instead of the doc.  I felt that was THEIR place, not his.  I think he should have ASKED her what she wanted to do, not DEMAND her to do what HE wanted.  That way, the decision would have been a real one.   Not an all of a sudden here is this other guy and you WILL end this here and now,  type of decision. 

 
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February 13, 2007, 2:59 pm PST

Cherie Should Leave John

     I believe Cherie should leave John just for the fact that he is physically abusing her.  Having been abused myself by my ex-husband (notice he is an "ex" now), it should not be tolerated at all.  I have not heard Dr. Phil mention this part of their relationship as yet.  You only have one life to live and you shouldn't have to live it in fear like Cherie is doing.
 

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