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Topic : 07/23 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 3

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(Original Air Date: 02/12/07) Three couples continue an intensive workshop with Dr. Phil, in a last-ditch effort to save their marriages. After almost getting kicked out of the house, Nic and Amanda sit down with Dr. Phil to discuss their biggest issues: their falling out with Nic’s mother, Amanda’s job as an exotic dancer and the affair she’s been having with a patron. With surprise visits from his mother and the man sleeping with his wife, Nic struggles with his emotions. Can he get everything on the table and find some closure? Will Amanda be unified with her husband and tell the other man that it’s over for good? Then, Cherie watches from another room as her husband, John, talks with Dr. Phil, but it's not long before she becomes outraged by what she hears. She joins the men to tell her side of the story. Plus, does an unexpected visit by Cherie’s mother make John pack up and leave? Join the discussion.

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July 23, 2007, 10:51 am PDT

Man camp

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I AM CHERI FROM THE SHOW, YEA THE 14 YEAR OLD IDIOT, LOL, BECAUSE I SIGNED UP ON THE SHOW MAKES ME AN UNACCOMPLISHED PERSON.  I WAS NOT GOING TO RESPOND TO YOU, IN FACT THIS IS MY FIRST RESPONSE SINCE THE THIRD SHOW AIRED,  BUT THE REASON I AM IS BECAUSE IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT JUDGE THAT HAS NO RIGHT.  I ADMIT, BEFORE THE SHOW, I WAS LIKE YOU, VERY JUDGEMENTAL, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE HAD YOUR SHARE OF HEARTACHE, BUT IF THIS SHOW WAS NOT FOR YOU,OH WELL, MAYBE YOU THINK STAYING IN THIS MARRIAGE FOR THE 14 YEARS IS SELFISH, BUT YOU DO NOT KNOW MY LIFE.  I GIVE MY SELF CREDIT FOR TRYING FOR ONE LAST TIME.  JOHN IS A GOOD FATHER AND THERE ARE NO DOUBT 'ALOT' OF ISSUES, BUT THAT IS WHY WE WERE CHOSEN, SO THE OTHER COUPLES WOULD SEE HOW THEIR LIFE WOULD BE LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD IN YEARS TO COME.  I AM THE FARTHEST FROM UNEDUCATED OR A CHILD, WHY CAN'T PEOPLE LIKE YOU JUST SAY'WELL I HOPE THIS WORKS, I GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR EXPOSING THEIR DIRTY LAUNDRY, I'M  SURE IT WAS NOT EASY!!!"  BUT NO, YOU HAVE TO DOWN US FOR TRYING TO GET THE BEST HELP POSSIBLE,  YOU SOUND ANGRY, HOPEFULLY THAT ANGER CAN BE USED IN MORE PRODUCTIVE WAYS,  WATCH THE REST OF THE MESSAGE BOARD.   THANKS TO ALL OF YOU THAT HAVE SUPPORTED US, OUR INTENTIONS MEANT NO HARM TO ANYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                               CHERI

i was watching this and i thought that it was going to be boring. After watching it last week it was interesting to say the least.  I know that Dr. Phil is trying to save thier marriages but come on. I know that Scott and Amanda. I hope that they make it.. After the first episode that was rocky water. i just hope that scott comes to his sences and realizes that he is there for that little girl. As for the excotic dancer. i can not remember her name sorry.. I know that my hubby would not let that fly at all. I have more respect for you then ever. I would have said the same thing to her. And you were not acting like her mother you where just stating a fact that had to be said.. I Give you alot of credit. I am giving you a Pat on the back and a friendly hug.. I give you best wishes on the show and hope things work out with you and your hubby

 

Michelle

 

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July 23, 2007, 12:24 pm PDT

Recognize?


Doesn't "Mom" act a lot like Marie Barone (Everybody Loves Raymond)?


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July 23, 2007, 12:30 pm PDT

07/23 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 3

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SERIOUSLY...can we get new episodes?  This is Ridiculous...4 weeks of repeats and they aren't even any that are worth repeating.   Come on Dr. Phil...a two week vacation is ok, but four weeks...i am tuned out now.
Almost every TV show on the planet goes into reruns for the summer.
 
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July 23, 2007, 12:38 pm PDT

Leave it alone

I work in a strip club myself. I don't agree with her cheating on her husband but. that is not the issue with her job. She cheated because she wanted to not because of her job. I have been with my man for 7 years. I have always worked in this type of club and it's not an issue. I provide very well for my family with no disrespect. They all know I work hard for everything we have. I no longer am a dancer. I am now a server /bartender but hte job is still the same.  EXAMPLE: I was talking to my father in-law saying I need to get a real job. His comment back was "If you get a real job your stupid. You cannot make the money you make anywhere else."

Think about this. If she wanted to cheat on her husband it dosn;t matter where she was working at the time. She could have been a waitress at a resturant. She still would have found someone else.

 
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July 23, 2007, 1:34 pm PDT

Doctor House Part Phil Show Three.

Doctor House Part Phil Show Three. Here we go again another repeat of this show. See you tomorrow Afternoon. Sincerley Your. Russell Vlaanderen.-----------------------------------------------
 
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July 23, 2007, 1:54 pm PDT

i agree with amanda

i was watching the show today and i was very appauled by the reactions to amanda.  i am a married with children stripper too.  i feel that the thing that affects the marriage is how the home life is.  i too argue with my husband alot.  i need the attention of feeling attractive and wanted , which is something that my husband does not make me feel at home.  we don't sleep in the same bed(by his choice) and he routinely calls me a bitch or a fat ass.  when i go to work i don't get told any of that.  if i didn't have my stripping job, i don't know how i would get through life with self esteem.  i just wanted to let amanda know that she is not the only stripper that is married and have children.  keep up the good work and take care of the children the way you have.  i would end the relationship with the guy in the club though because they just tell you what you want to hear in the club. 
 
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July 23, 2007, 2:09 pm PDT

07/23 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 3

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i was watching the show today and i was very appauled by the reactions to amanda.  i am a married with children stripper too.  i feel that the thing that affects the marriage is how the home life is.  i too argue with my husband alot.  i need the attention of feeling attractive and wanted , which is something that my husband does not make me feel at home.  we don't sleep in the same bed(by his choice) and he routinely calls me a bitch or a fat ass.  when i go to work i don't get told any of that.  if i didn't have my stripping job, i don't know how i would get through life with self esteem.  i just wanted to let amanda know that she is not the only stripper that is married and have children.  keep up the good work and take care of the children the way you have.  i would end the relationship with the guy in the club though because they just tell you what you want to hear in the club. 
" if i didn't have my stripping job, i don't know how i would get through life with self esteem."

How do you suppose us nonstipper women have self esteem? I am not against stripping at all. But this is a poor reason for this kind of job. You don't need men to think you're pretty to have self esteem.
 
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July 23, 2007, 2:25 pm PDT

food for thought

the current "man camp" show raises many issues, of that there is no doubt. the responses are also quite thought provoking as well in as much that people get intellectually & emotionally involved with this discourse.

the idea that a woman uses her body to make money, sadly, is quite literally "the oldest game in the book". whether they go towards temptation (look but don't touch) or full blown prostitution (pay to play) is irreverent. the idea that money is so necessary that a person (male or female) would go to any lengths and justification to obtain it is so depressing that the real "core" issue (self esteem) is clouded by fear, denial, ignorance, compromise, acquiescence, doubt, fabrication, fantasy, delusion, derision, anger, hate, judgementalism, sex, greed, avarice, dependence , co-dependence and baggage on a monumental level.

Amanda has a lot to say, but the real reasons she "exotic dances" (strips) is because

A) she makes great money for no "real world" talent or education (easy money).

B) because she has real & visceral self esteem issues needs attention focused on her to be able to "face" her life.

C) she "gets off" on it. she likes feeling, if only for a brief moment, that she is attractive and desirable.

D) she probably finds some sort of convoluted "empowerment" by performing in that she is able to obtain some sort of momentary "control" in her life.

these are the watermarks for every single "exotic dancer". oh, they will argue that last statement until the cows come home. I can almost read the responses now. talk about their husbands acceptance of their "profession" (those guys have serious issues of their own, babe. don't kid yourself.) how they can't do anything else that yields this sort of income ... that's total BS and, deep down, you know it. for instance, educated, professional nurses make quite a comfortable income doing something worthwhile. that's just one type of work that pays "an honest wage for an honest day's work". though dancing (of any sort) is physically demanding, stripping is almost the lowest peg on the totem pole. don't think so? try studying legitimate dancing and then make the audition cattle calls for a major dance troupe. it is no picnic and only the strong and talented survive. gyrating sexually to some soulless music that only hits on one level (the solar plexus) is easy compared to the legitimate discipline and control demanded for classic & modern dance ... not to mention those insane choreographers & directors. yikes! what people will put themselves through for a buck. the reality is that if spiritual enlightenment yielded big dollars, then there would be whole lot of "enlightened" people and a percentage of fake spiritualist's trying to "get over" ... to be sure.

the fact is, you are lazy and it's no wonder. in the current degraded moral climate the world is in (thanks, Hollywood and the fashion industry) it's no wonder that people are dissatisfied with their lives and physical appearance, not to mention peer pressure! if women were to be truly "in sync" today, one would have an hour glass figure with zero extra body weight (size 0), able to climb a mountain or run 25 miles easily, have a "perfect" complexion on the face of an angel with the sexual appetite of some heroine in a sexually charged movie or book. whew! sounds like hard work. so, why do the work? with all the advanced elective cosmetic surgery techniques available, girls ... all you need is cash.

 

any person that agrees ("lets") to their wife/GF/significant other to do this type of work (face it folks. one's life is one's own and if that is what one wants to do, it's one's prerogative) is benefiting (using) her to bring in the lion share of the collective income (laziness) while he/she sits at home watching TV or whatever he/she does. I've met this individual before. they play on a woman's insecurity and youth to provide them a lifestyle to which they feel entitled to. these types are predators ... male or female. beware the darkness of obsessive compulsive avarice.

 

the real question is "why?" and that is the one question that can never be answered and, hence, our age old societal dilemma.

 
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July 23, 2007, 2:28 pm PDT

what was your prayer??

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wow i was married to a woman kind of like amanda, lol my 2ed wife fell in love with a regular too  lol, he was a regular coffee drinker at the restaraunt she worked with, and a big speaker at all the AA meetings lol, hell i think i blew every ones mind with my actions, when my wife told me he was just a friend i knew better but i left a sleeping dog lie, it wasnt till our 3 year old son was sick that i really found out what was going on, i called where she worked as i was home with out a car , when i called to let her know i needed her to take off long enough to bring me the car was when i found out she was off that night, i was like wow, i called her brother to come over as i needed a way to get my kid to the emergency room , so he came running, while we were there getting my son looked after i told my brother in law what was going on, and he was pissed at his sister, when the doctor got done with my son and gave me the medicain i needed to get his fever down and we were leaving the hospital my brother in law asked me if i knew where that man lived at, and i told him no, but guess what happened then? my 3yr old som poped up and said daddy i know where he lives, and i was like what the f--k, how in the hell could a 3yr old possibly know this well hell she had already been taking our child over to his house with her  lol, the boy told us how to get there by telling us what streets to turn on as we looked  lol, i never in my wildest dreams thought a 3yr old could remember all that, but he did, when we got to the guys house no one was there but our car was parked beside his house in the dark  lol, i was ready to go i was hurt so bad , i knew just how dame stupid i had been, my brother in law told me i needed to beat her ass, but i knew that wouldnt make anything any better, instead i asked my wife how she felt about that man ,she told me she thought she loved him, so i told her to call him and see if he was ready for her to move in with him, she did he was so he thought  lol, hell i helped them pack her stuff up and shook his hand and wished him good luck, he looked at me with a smerk on his face till i told him he would need all he could get  lol, i was rite she took him for every thing she could, he got just what he deserved, and she did aswell, god answers prayers, i can vouch for that.

I truly hope that your prayer was not one of vengeance directed toward your wife. After all, this is the mother of your son, right? Shame on both of them and shame on you.

Did you make any attempt to find out what was missing in your marriage to cause your wife to look elsewhere? Trust me, most women won't seek attention outside of their marriage if they feel fulfilled .

Could anything you did or did not do contribute to the disintegration of your marriage?

Too bad you couldn't have swallowed your pride (like Nick) and tried to salvage your marriage - for the sake of your son .

 

 

 

 

 
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July 23, 2007, 2:39 pm PDT

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I truly hope that your prayer was not one of vengeance directed toward your wife. After all, this is the mother of your son, right? Shame on both of them and shame on you.

Did you make any attempt to find out what was missing in your marriage to cause your wife to look elsewhere? Trust me, most women won't seek attention outside of their marriage if they feel fulfilled .

Could anything you did or did not do contribute to the disintegration of your marriage?

Too bad you couldn't have swallowed your pride (like Nick) and tried to salvage your marriage - for the sake of your son .

 

 

 

 

Are you serious? This woman was cheating on him and he had her move out...BIG DEAL..."shame" on him? If this was a man who cheated...I would love to see your response.
 
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