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Topic : 07/26 Adoptions Scams, Part 1

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Created on : Thursday, February 15, 2007, 04:43:02 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/22/07) Dr. Phil explores one of the cruelest cons in America: adoption scams. Couples hoping, wishing, praying to have their own child, become easy targets for heartless con artists who pose online as birthmothers. Meet three women who wanted nothing more than to hold a newborn child in their arms. Instead, they say they were misled, lied to and left devastated by a woman who claimed to be pregnant with a baby meant for them. Now Marie, Crissy and Jen might have a chance to confront Melissa, the woman who deceived them. With the help of private investigator Harold Copus, they track her down, and even Dr. Phil is shocked by what happens when they find her, including their close encounter with a man and his shotgun. When Melissa sits down with Dr. Phil to tell her side of the story, will her victims finally get their chance to confront her face to face? Talk about the show here.

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February 23, 2007, 12:43 pm PST

02/22 Adoptions Scams, Part 1

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When I watched the show today, I saw a very mean spirited woman with absolutely no remorse. You are correct that it is all about power and manipulation. My mother is the same way. I recognize the subtle smirks and the joy they get from feeding off their victims pain. My mother killed our pets just to watch us react. She hid my opportunity to go to college, paid for by a scientific company in my field of expertise. She told me what a failure I was and I should get used to flipping burgers. I joined the military instead. She convinced me I would be a poor mother, so I never had children. Later in life- (20 years later) she mailed to me the letter about my education, she just wanted me to know what I missed. She wants a reaction to everything- Its her power. Its her drug. My mother has Munchausen Syndrome. (Factitious disorder) It is all about them. It always is. They are incapable of anything else. Empathy is far beyond them. They dont want it any way. There is nothing in it for them.

The best thing you can do get your power back is dont give her the satisfaction. Even if it hurts like a bomb went off in your soul- dont let her see it. It is all they want. The reason why Melissa wanted to see the Chrissy is she wasnt finished hurting her. She did not answer one question honestly. She avoided most of the questions by deftly changing the subject. She just wanted to feed on her one last time. She exposed her pain to Melissa and she ate it up. She didnt want to see the other two because they are done being hurt by her and are outwardly HOSTILE!  She knows their defenses are up and they are on the offensive. She cant hurt them any more. When Melissa said she didnt remember one of the ladies, it was her last stab at hurting her. She remembers- perfectly. She just wont EVER admit it. More power. Its her way of reducing her to nothing.

Melissa will never change, my mother is 80 and is cruel as ever. To them, people are just entertainment to be exploited. Nothing more.

I am sorry for your pain.

Best wishes always.

Wow, your mother, huh? I feel for you. Had the same. My mom IS a con-artist. I'm an adult child knowing  what you went through. My mother did the same thing to me. My mother hated animals

she was OCD. She sets siblings against each other. She placed my sister through an official

Exorcism. She said I was a bad mother too with my children. She sets out for a REACTION.

It is all about control. My mom says she is "sold out" to Jesus.  She uses her faith in God to manipulate others. Like this Melissa, uses the false Christianity to gain your confidence then BOOM- drops the bomb.

People like this are HOAXERS. It is a sin as old as prostitution. There is a woman called Mary Bateman (Yorkshire witch) who frauded couples in 1806.  She even faked pregnancy to get out of her execution on 1809. They are out there and will hurt anyone. They are cold, unfeeling, devoid of empathy, its a sick and vicious cycle. They have limited emotions like fear, angst, jealousy, rage, control, false sense of superiority. Anything that helps them achieve a self-centered will. 

It has to be a mix of sexual abuse as a young child and being over-indulged (spoiled). They must have grown up with parents that raged and were indifferent/neglectful. They must have observed at a young age what one feels on the inside and what appears to others outside

are to remain separate. Hence, the many faces of Melissa. I am sure she has a Sch*tload of screennames out there!

 
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February 23, 2007, 12:46 pm PST

Doctor Phil Show.

Adop Doctor One Part Phil Scams Tion. Are you crazy? I never seenanything like that before. See you tomorrow Afternoon. Sincerley Your.Russell Vlaanderen.------------------------------------------------
 
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February 23, 2007, 12:46 pm PST

And Today's show...

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My roomates and i  are all sitting here thinking the exact same thing: This chick is sitting on stage SMIRKING. In no way, shape or form does she care about saying sorry.  Shes not sorry. Shes guna do it again.  Poor you the FBI raided your house? GOOD!  You deserve jail time.   Makes you pretty sick to see monsters like that walking among us.  I dont think theres anyway she can say that she has a heart.  Obviously she doesnt care about her own actions and im sure she's not going to care about this but Id like her to know that she has 3 girls completely disgusted, and shaking our heads at her. 

Even Today as she faces those women finally,she seems more upset that they said bad things about her on the internet than upset about what she did. She really must have some mental illness that stops her from having empathy.

It's amazing that she IS actualy a parent. She is seems so twisted. She needs to face them in court. She needs to face what she did over and over until she finally gets it.

Dr.Phil is right, those women are a class act. It must be all they can do to stop themselves from slapping her in the face.

Especially when she sat there stoney faced while they spoke to her. I don't understand how any human being can have remain unfeeling for others like that.

 
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February 23, 2007, 12:54 pm PST

02/22 Adoptions Scams, Part 1

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Hello, my name is Mike, and I've been conned by her too

I wish to thank Marie for putting a stop to Melissa.
If it weren't for her efforts, I'd be mourning a beautiful dead woman very soon, I'm quite sure.

Backing up a second...

Melissa posed as Bella in a couple of web-hangouts that I frequented.
She was the same 'personna' that Marie was all too familiar with.
Only at these sites, Bella was not scamming prospective adoptive parents, she was creating enormous empathy and love for herself by pretending she had breast cancer, complete with a double mastectomy and 8 rounds of chemotherapy.

She knew her stuff about cancer and various treatments.  She was not an authority or a good patient, she claimed she did not listen to the doctors.  She took the treatments as they came and kept her life as 'normal' as possible, in spite of her disease.
I always felt she was not facing her illness, and it's apparent now as to why it came across that way.

We talked as friends on the phone frequently, she was a pleasure to talk to and quite a revelation in the context that she was very gravely ill, yet her spirit remained bouyant and charming.
We were 'close' for perhaps 7 months.

The 'truth' was such a crushing thing, but as the smoke cleared in my mind, it was clear I was lied to for all those months.  Many others were fooled, though most people kept it at a distance, but there were several of us men who made it clear to her that we cared and were willing to help somehow.

I sent her alot of things, most of the stuff was inexpensive stuff, simple stuff to make her smile and feel good about herself.  Bandanas for her head, head scarfs, chocolate, pink cancer girl stuff, necklaces for her boys, books to read, pens and some stationary etc.  Panties too.  I wanted her to get the feeling that she was still a lovely lady, and still retained tons of feminine beauty depite the ravages of the disease.  

I also sent her 135$ to pay a phone bill once.  Hey, she was alone with 2 small kids in the middle of nowhere.  Me, I was very worried she would need emergency service sometime, and a lack of a telephone became a safety issue, so I paid it for her.

I read alot of posts from the most beautiful women I've ever read from and the message board at http://www.breastcancer.org
I became very familiar with that site, and the nature of breast cancer in general.
The strife and mindless sadness that breast cancer imposes on a female body can be devastating, and yes, it is grave enough to kill.  Young women in their prime are mutilated and their life is sucked out of them with the intensity of the treatments.  Families are consumed with supporting and helping, money is drained and there is an air of fear and loathing in people's hearts.
At the bc.org site, there is tremendous support on many levels, but something with this disease that is a total robbery of the feminine soft beauty and women who survive it struggle mightily with their sexuality and chances at a future with new and old relationships.
My compassion for Bella rested in that type of mindset.

I knew I could not see her, she was insecure and far away, so what we had was perfect for the time.

She said her breasts were to be reconstructed in Beverly Hills.
She said she made over $150,000 a year, but her bills were snowballing, the medical problems were keeping her out of work and her benefits were drying up rapidly.
She also told us she had a 3 year old daughter die from cancer.
She told us she has twin boys
She told us the father of those boys was fighting for freedom in Iraq, but they were not a couple anymore.
She told us she sends random care packages and letters to servicemen overseas all the time, as a basic good gesture.
She presented herself as a devout an honorable Christian.

What this boiled down to many times was simply that Breast Cancer was too serious, scary and intimidating to lie about, it was beyond me to imagine this was someone lying to me.

Amazingly it was.   She got 'stuff' from me, and a phone bill paid.

I was robbed of my good nature and my goodness as a person.
It was sucked out of me.
I was heartfelt and in a state of fear, worry and concern for her for 7 months, and she was lying all the while.  
She manipulated me so much, I am still confused and unsure on just how diabolical this person is.
She obviously was busy, she had very serious scams going concurrently with Marie, Jen and Crissy.

I will say this...  it is a relief to have 'someone' not have Breast Cancer anymore...

My heart thanks Marie, because at some point down the road, Melissa would have had to KILL OFF Bella, and let that 'character' of hers die.
To the deep and resonating sadness of all those that merely wanted to help her.

THAT - would have been aweful.  
Melissa sure was not Bella, so an ENDING would have been required.

Thank You for reading.

Mike



"You have a kind heart Mike, don't let someone like Melissa harden it."

 

Here here Mike. You need to focus on the fact that your heart allowed you reach out to someone. Don't let what happened to you change you!

*BIG HUG*

 
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February 23, 2007, 12:59 pm PST

rope to hang yourself...

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 It takes time. The feds are still investigating. Maybe they are waiting to see if more victims come forward after this show.??? If there are more out there...If anyone thinks they have been scammed by this woman... Please contact the FBI. The more info there is, the better the charges will stick when they do charge her.
If you go on national tv and say "Yeah, I did it", that's pretty corroborating right there. 
 
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February 23, 2007, 1:36 pm PST

Melissa's 'Meltdown'

I thought Dr. Phil did an excellent job of handling Melissa's pseudo 'meltdown'. (I know I tout Dr. Phil's praises a lot, but what can I say, I like what he does.  That's why I watch his show, chat on his message boards, etc.  I guess I could go write about this on the Montel board but it wouldn't be the same.)

 

As for Melissa's melting down, I don't think anybody thought she was crying because she was sorry.  There was no change of heart going on there.  She was crying because Dr. Phil had ripped off the mask and exposed her as the antisocial being that she is.  She didn't like being seen as someone without conscience or character.  She desperately wanted to look like she had feelings, so she started crying.

 

I personally think that a lot of antisocials want to look like they have feelings because it makes it easier for them to function (i.e., manipulate) in society.  Melissa feigned her best to make her meltdown look remorse driven, but in the throes of it, she couldn't resist the attempt to launch into a  slander campaign against her victims, like, she was crying because her victims had just been so doggoned mean to her on the internet.

 

Dr. Phil got her to agree never to do these crimes again.  Melissa said, "That's easy." Probably because she was lying, but I think she probably won't do anything like this again? Why? Because pretty soon, she's going to be sitting behind jail bars.  Her son is going to be in foster care (doubtful that any judge would leave him with her gun wielding parents).  And, she's going to be up to her neck in lawsuits.

 

Dr. Phil called it right when he suggested that Melissa was getting off on refusing to meet with the three women she had hurt in the past.  I agree that she wanted control.  I think that's why she tried to shrug off what was going to happen to her in the future, because she knew it was out of her hands, so why pick it up.  However, she won't like the lack of control she has when she's sitting in a cell.

 
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February 23, 2007, 1:49 pm PST

02/22 Adoptions Scams, Part 1

To the people who keep saying "why couldn't these women adopt older children".  Why do you think these women don't deserve a baby?  Why don't they deserve the joy of watching and raising a child from birth to adulthood?  Why do you think the only women that deserve to have a baby are the ones that can have them naturally?  If they wanted to adopt an older child they would have.   They didn't.  They wanted a baby, and got scammed.  This horrible person should be either in jail, or in a mental hospital.  She's got a mental problem.  Anyone who would do that to someone else does.

 
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February 23, 2007, 1:59 pm PST

02/22 Adoptions Scams, Part 1

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"You have a kind heart Mike, don't let someone like Melissa harden it."

 

Here here Mike. You need to focus on the fact that your heart allowed you reach out to someone. Don't let what happened to you change you!

*BIG HUG*

Mike,

You just had compassion for this person.  I hate that you got scammed by her.  I would love to know what Marie's wed site is.  I would love to read what she has to say about all this.  I am glad as well that Marie called her out on all this.  I have read on her that people has actually took Melissa's side.  Melissa has no compassion for anybody, not even her self.  She sickens me.  Does she have children of her own?  If so, I really don't think she deserves them.  Melissa is a cold hearted  creature who WILL have to answer for all the wrong she has done to all these people.

 
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February 23, 2007, 2:52 pm PST

02/22 Adoptions Scams, Part 1

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And for those who are saying that the potential adoptive mothers are whining or getting "what they deserve" for trying to "buy" a baby...Well, let's see...Have you EVER wanted something so bad you could taste it?  Have you ever wanted something so bad you went to bed at night dreaming of it, dreamed of it through the night, then woke the next morning with the same dream on your mind???  Have you ever been put in a position where a doctor told you even though you are a MAN or a WOMAN, you weren't enough because you can't get pregnant/can't get someone else pregnant?  Have you ever wanted to love another human being so much that you were willing to go to any lengths to bring a child into your life...to love, cherish, raise and continue the one thing that our biology (and even the bible) says is our life mission as human beings??? Well, they can't necessarily fulfill that biologically but they feel they HAVE to do this...because it is our nature...

 

 

So, if you want something enough it's okay to ignore the law.

 

 

And for the adoptive child who feels that parents are wrong for "buying" their baby????  Well, let me tell you, going the "legal" route is more EXPENSIVE than actually paying for a birth...a good adoption attorney is about 200-300 an hour (with a minimum of 10 hours work (court time alone), you will usually need to PAY for the hospital stay for the mother and her prenatal checkups at 30-45 dollars a pop (once a month during the last three months)(unless, of course,  the government is paying for it, which means **I** an paying for YOUR baby...which I don't want to do), and then you usually foot at least half the bill of delivery, unless, again, if the government pays for it, which I WONT do...

 

Once more, follow only the laws you like and to hell with older kids who really need a home.  As long as you're happy in your little world, it's okay.

Hmmm...I was going to respond to this with anger, my initial reaction because this "person" decided to go on the attack...

I could share the history of having two older male adopted children as siblings and how both of them destroyed my baby sister...But why bother?  I know better then to get into an argument with someone who instantly goes on the defensive even when they personally are not being attacked...(none of my statements were directed toward anyone in particular except for Melissa...I was and still am angry at this woman for scamming these women who only want to have a baby.  Why is that so wrong a desire?)

I am curious why you made the second point of  "Once more, follow only the laws you like" to the statement that I made about adoption fees and not wanting to pay for someone else's baby.  What does that mean?  I didnt mention anything about breaking the law...I am just wondering what you read into that...

I dont have children, I will never have children (hysterectomy at 25 due to ovarian cancer.) but I have accepted that.  I probably won't adopt because I do not want to be a single mother.

But for the most part, I am happy "in my own little world" and yes, it really is ok.  I do apologize that I offended YOU so badly that you had to attack...but it's okay.
 
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February 23, 2007, 2:58 pm PST

Not yet

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I'm not sure how long ago the show was taped....but do you know if any of the women were able to adopt yet?

No, they haven't adopted yet.  This was filmed in January I believe. 

 

I have a couple of emails from this scammer Melissa and it's staggering what she had the gall to write.  I read them to my sister today and I heard her jaw hit the floor.  I won't get rid of these emails in case they're needed to prove her guilt.  She is one SICK individual!

 
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