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Topic : 08/06 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 5

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Created on : Friday, February 23, 2007, 02:08:43 pm
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(Original Air Date: 06/26/07) Three couples trying to save their marriages continue their work at The Dr. Phil House. Throughout their relationship, Scott and Tara have had violent fights that have included slashed tires and police visits. Dr. Phil sits down with Scott to discuss how he can control his anger problem and set up personal boundaries that will put an end to the fighting with his wife. Afterward, Scott feels confident enough to vow to Tara that he is never going to yell at her again. Will he stick by his declaration? Then, Dr. Phil puts the group through some intense exercises, so they can learn their partner’s point of view. As each person stands before the group and explains what he or she really wants, raw emotions pour out, and the couples find themselves growing closer with compassionate support. Plus, Dr. Phil teaches them his rules for fighting (link to /articles/article/20 ) and his rules for children. After seeing a videotape of all their kids, the message is loud and clear. Will the couples apply what they’ve learned and change their families forever? Share your thoughts here.

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March 6, 2007, 5:05 pm CST

I need to ask you a simple question...

Quote From: pamelajweaver

  I think the men on man camp have alot to learn, they treat there wives poorly. I can't wait til its over. I think they will all be in divorce court eventually..  They upset me,, I had a very verbally , emotionally, and sexually abusive husband.  It was so bad that our girls learned to have no respect for me.  This man i was married to is a professional, and had a real problem with porn, and lying about it,  He treated me less of a person, the career was more important, he'd never sit our girls, and now he wants to take credit for all they are.  I hope these girls get out life can be better after divorce, just get along for the kids sake, and don't treat them as pawns.  There are men out their that are much better.  Know your'e worth it.

I can read that your relationship was destroying you.  I understand that very well.  I can't help but wonder...  If your husband would have had recognized he was abusive and wanted to fix his problem so that he would not pass this heritage to your daughters, what would you have done?

 

Also, there is something that Dr. Phil said that I truly believe in; you show people how to treat you!  Yes, the abuser has a responsability but the victim does as well.  This part we tend to forget and it is very difficult to own it as a victim (knowing from experience).

 

If they have a chance to fix their marriages and if BOTH parties are commited to change, I certainly do believe that there is a chance for them!

 
March 7, 2007, 6:58 am CST

02/26 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 5

Quote From: beenthere3

I don't want to hear anything else about Anna  Nicole or Britney!!  I did want to hear and see what the Man Camp people didn't bring to the table apparently the first time.  In order to heal, people first have to get honest with themselves and it looks like that didn't happen.  Maybe this time that can happen.  When is it going to be aired????
i too do not want to hear about anna, hell shes dead let her rest in peace if possible, but i do want to know whats going on with her child every moment of every day!!!  as for man camp im sure every one there will get there lives back on track with out me adding to there every day problems,  good luck and wishes to all!!!
 
March 7, 2007, 3:29 pm CST

02/26 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 5

Quote From: jadajb

 Humans come in all shapes, sizes, colours and personalities. Lucky me can only hear them as I am blind, and from what I've heard whether via TV or my computer, these couples are no diffrent than a lot of other couples all over the world or in this case, the USA. I've followed the Dr Phil show daily and I daresay many a time, after listening to the video inserts, it's hard to tell whether the people on the show are the same people as in the video inserts. It's like they have different personalities or pretending to be cool, calm and collected, whereas in the inserts, they scream, cuss etc. Yes, these couples did Man-Camp and my guess is, afterwards those who are willing to accept it, will get some help, but will it last? Only time will tell.

I am married. 18 years and because I am blind, we had to iron out our expectations of our marriage before we headed to the altar. Not having children was one of the difficult decisions since our children would have inherited Stargardts Disease from me. My husband understood only too well how selfish that would be if I pass this on to our children and no we didn't adopt. I have decided to use my love for children to speak out on behalf of those who didn't have a voice and my husband supports me in that.

18 years ago, we made one important decision, we are equal partners in this marriage. I'm not a doormat, because I have the disadvantage of being blind and he is not my keeper, my father or my controller. Yes we have expectations  - we both wanted to be treated with dignity, respect and have an unbreakable trust that we will do what is right towards each other and this marriage. Over time, I have found my voice as an inspirational speaker and author. Oftentimes I am a firecracker when it comes to the playing fields of politics, but we know, we have only each other to love. There are no children to keep us in each other's lives. We are there because that is what we wanted and still want.

Yes, sometimes we disagree, but we discuss it like adults should. Calmly.
What I often hear on this show, is people screaming and shouting at each other, throwing tantrums like two year old toddlers, with the children there to observe and I get this feeling like I'm listening to adults stuck in puberty or in their teeanage sturm und drang years.
I can't judge people on what I see, but only on what comes out of their mouths and that's how I experience people. Perhaps too many people make too many excuses for their own unwillingness to become an adult and to realize for every decision there is a consequence and that there won't be a Dr Phil for all, to come and help put their lives together again. Just.........grow up.

Jadajb
If only more couples would do what you two did before marrying, sharing your expectations and setting up boundaries, Dr Phil would be out of his West Coast job. And, back in Dallas working full time as a litigation consultant. But, too many people marry in haste, out of lust. Or, for a myriad of other wrong reasons. And, join Dr Phil's waiting list.
 
March 7, 2007, 10:10 pm CST

02/26 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 5

What happened to the follow-up show this week?  Who cares about Britney and Anna Nicole Smith.
 
March 10, 2007, 10:56 am CST

Reality Checks May be Needed

Above all else, I respect everyones opinions for what is true for them and their lives. 

Having read some of the messages that have been posted I think that there are some very valid questions being brought forth  (in my opinion). 

What does Nic do for a living? 

Why is there no food in the fridge? 

Why does Amanda feel she has to strip to support the family? 

There is so much more to their story then we know of (obviously). 

For the person who suggested to another poster that they help get Nic a better paying job if they live in the same town; I just shake my head at this comment. 

With so little information, that is a loaded comment to make to another. 

Maybe he does make good money but there are huge debts, or maybe a gambling problem, or maybe a drinking problem.  Maybe Nic has issues that limit his earning potential.  I don't necessarily think any of these are the case but then how in the heck do I know, or for that fact, any of you know unless you personally know these people?

Put yourself in another's point of view (with limited knowledge) and not judge these people so harshly.  My guess is that Amanda may not have the greatest self image of herself (again, just guessing and only my opinion) and from what I saw on the show, she is not proud of what she is doing.  To make any further comments about Nic, we need more information and that may not be forthcoming.

Abuse in all its forms runs rampant in both the US and Canada.  In all 3 of these relationships there is abuse from all sides.  A one week intensive at the Dr Phil house isn't going to fix anything - it's a catalyst for change for those who want it.  We are all just voyeurs from the outside.  They are there for many of us to learn from.  That's why anyone goes on the show and airs their dirty laundry (and I'm sure the offers of help are a huge motivator) but if any of the players aren't interested in change - they won't.  I've also seen Dr Phil call people out who are obviously not willing and open to change.  In the end, anyone who has been open enough to go on the show does want to change.  Sometimes changes come slowly or the problems need to repeat themselves a few times before there is acknowledgement and recognition of an issue.

My support is for all 6 of them to find happiness either with their partners or splitting up.  I think that for most of you that is the same sentiment.  What we have seen on the shows may have brought up some issues in your own lives.  That should bring more empathy for those involved and maybe  window to look at your own life circumstances.

 

May all of you find peace and love in your own lives, and be open to loving even the "hard to love" people who are on the show.  They need it the most.

Ronda in Alberta

 

 
March 16, 2007, 8:07 am CDT

Just an excuse

Quote From: flthomcat

Please! Give me a break! Even Dr. Phil acknowledged that the woman didn't dance naked to feed her children. There are other jobs out there that she could hold. She made the choice to place herself in a job that jeopardized her marriage.

 

We women have MANY choices these days. Our days of victimhood should be over....unless we make victims of ourselves, as Amanda did. There were better ways for her to earn money. There were ways for him to earn more money. They did the easy thing and it almost cost them their marriage.

 

HOPEFULLY, this couple will work TOGETHER to make their marriage work...and that means no more stripping. It would be sad for their child to answer the usual school question about what she wanted to be when she grew up....and she responded, "An exotic dancer!" We women need to aspire to be more than that!!!

I've been a military wife and a single mom.  For a while I had some stinking jobs.  But never a stripper.  Feeding her family is just an excuse.  All the time she was "feeling good about herself" as a stripper she whould have worked on helping herself and her husband feel good about themselves and each other.   Her chances of being hit on are so much greater being a stripper .  She found that out by having an affair.  There are other jobs.  Women have so many choices and we don't have to be victims!

Check your lifestyle and spending.  Get a decent job where you won't be as likely to be hit on and you can be proud of yourself.  The time you took away from your family for an affair you could have been getting an education..yes you can go to school and work and have a family.

I don't think you were the least bit sincere inagreeing to give up your affair.  You have no respect for your vows or your husband.  And I doubt you will give up stripping, You're in it for the attention.  I hope your husband gets a backbone and stops putting up with your crap.

 
March 16, 2007, 8:24 am CDT

best wishes to the couples

I wish the very best of luck to all of the couples.  If they keep their promises and continue with therapy they stand a chance.  I saw alot of changes in the men's attitudes and behaviors.  Keep it up guys!!!

 

To everyone, get some self respect, some dignity and follow Dr. Phils advise  if not for your marriages, then to make each of you a better person.  You each need to work on yourselves first and then as a couple.  Grow up, take responsibity, learn what is in you that causes this toxic behavior and grow.  You have a great opportunity. 

 

Amanda quit the stipper job and your affair.  I don't feel you are sincere.  But I'm not there and can't say for sure.  You all have to like yourselves first and learn that only you can make you happy.  Then when you are happy you have the resources to be a giving, loving, gentle person for your spouse.  Those precious children should come first and foremost.

 

  On another couple, STOP all the theatrics and drama.  Good grief.  That is rediculous to play those stupid games.  Don't get on you knees and beg.  Don't suspect everything your husband says or does.  Grow the hell up, be an adult and quit causeing on crisis after another.  Drama queens are a real pain!!

 

I love Dr. Phil's advice and recommendations.  He is sooo down to earth and sensible.

Now he needs a break for all this emotion.  He must be exhausted.

 
August 4, 2007, 11:57 am CDT

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August 4, 2007, 4:10 pm CDT

man camp part 5

I give my Best wishes to all the couples and I hope that they will work things out  to keep their marriage going for their kids sake, I mean I have been married for 9 yrs and me and my husband bill work things out.

so best of luck .

 

 
August 4, 2007, 7:54 pm CDT

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         I think that the couples might apply what they've from doctor on the show ,but not for a long time.I think that eventually one is going to get tired of putting the effort.One or the other might feel that they're putting in more effort to save the marriage than the other.
 
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