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Topic : 07/25 "What Would You Do?"

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(Original Air Date: 02/27/07) How ethical are you? Many people believe they would do the right thing when confronted with a dilemma, but what happens when the line between right and wrong becomes fuzzy? Mylissa says that after a bitter breakup the right thing to do is get revenge, so she created a Web site where women learn tips and ideas on how to get back at an ex. But did this Web site really help her get over her ex? You won't believe what she says! Then, Heather says her best friend, Roza, is sneaky and will do anything to save a buck. Roza has even asked Heather to participate in shady activities. Roza says it's a game, and it's fun. What does Dr. Phil think? And, the Dr. Phil show hits the streets of New York City to conduct its own social experiments and find out how honest people really are. Hidden cameras catch unaware people in action. Will they return extra money to the cashier? Stop a shoplifter in action? Help a woman who's being yelled at by her boyfriend? Or tell a woman her thong underwear is sticking out of her pants? What would you do?

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February 26, 2007, 6:52 pm PST

02/27 "What Would You Do?"

Quote From: faeryedark

I have reported shoplifters many times and i've also stepped in when i've seen someone getting beat on...a couple of time I was with friends and once in particular we ended up taking a girl to the E.R. It may be kinda stupid but i can't stand to see someone being beat down and not step in.
I too have broke up a fight before I had kids, but I just can't see stepping in and having someone hurt my kids while I am breaking up a fight or even if my kids were not there, do I put my life in jeopardy when I need to really need to be here for them.  If I were to break up a fight for someone else and it puts me in the hospital, where does that put me?  my kids?  my husband?  I think this is just a sticky situation, there are too many crazy people out there.
 
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February 26, 2007, 10:24 pm PST

02/27 "What Would You Do?"

wow i have to say that from just what Ive read at the top of this page Melissa sounds like she has a black heart, i don't think i would want her as a friend by any means, what good is revenge? i think a ex is out of the picture and i would want to keep him there, not waste my time trying to get even for filer, is not what she does like pouring salt in a open wound ? i cant wait for Dr Phil to get real with this one !!
 
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February 26, 2007, 11:02 pm PST

02/27 "What Would You Do?"

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I would hope I would fight--but am not sure--when I was mugged several years ago--I yelled, I screamed, and (I love men) many men came to help--but now that I am older and a bit more fragile--I would probably use the cell to call 911--as to the money question-have so many times corrected
I understand having money not having money--but I always believe that what is yours belongs to you--not to me--I will earn what I will earn. Those who want what I have--how sorry I am for them.
 
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February 27, 2007, 6:16 am PST

A lot to think about

The one thing I have dealt with is getting back too much change. That's a no brainer for me. I always give it back. Once at an antiques place the cashier was using an adding machine and accidently rang up 6.00 instead of 60.00. I pointed it out because I knew that I would not be able to enjoy my baker's rack if I didn't. I knew that every time I looked at it ,I would know that I cheated someone. I would not point out a thong showing because I see them constantly.I don't think the girls worry about that. Toilet paper,I would probably tell them. I am hesitant to tell a stranger that his fly is unzipped. I have told female cashiers if their shirt is unbuttoned.(They have thanked me.) I would be hesitant to intervene if a couple was arguing.(Out of fear for my own safety) I would probably call the police.I will keep in mind the idea of walking up and saying "Come with me."(to the woman)As to the young woman that constantly scams people, that seems like a lot of effort to no good end.I don't understand the website for revenge at all. It seems like it would be more healthy to just move on and put all that energy towards something more positive and legal.(referring to breaking into the apartment)
 
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February 27, 2007, 6:19 am PST

Don't Feel Bad

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I had a boss who was my friend for 16 years.  He even planned my daughter's wedding and baked the cake, sent me to her baby shower in Mississippi when I lived in Maryland.  He gave me airline tickets and we were the best of friends and best of working partners.  He began to steal from the company, antiques, artwork, furniture to the tune of $100K's.  The moment of decision came when he stood over me while he asked me to charge a $2500 catering bill for a private party to my company credit card,  I had to report this to management.  It was handled poorly, they left me working for him for 5 months while they investigated the facts I gave him.  He was told he was being investigated and it was the worst 5 months of my life.  He made it hell.  Not much happened to him but they offered me retirement.  I was so stressed I just wanted out so I took what they were willing to give me and left.  Now I am mad at myself because they should have done more. I still miss who he was when he wasn't betraying me.  I also lost my best girlfriend of almost 20 years because of him. She took his side because he remained in a position where he could still offer her trips.  I feel like the biggest sucker of all time.

He was clearly conning you and will continue to con your friend as long as she chooses to be in the dark. You were a good friend for warning her and telling her the truth. If she chooses not to believe you because she's getting freebies, than she obviously doesn't put much value in friendship. Find someone that does.

 

You did the right thing, your company did the wrong thing and I suspect your direct boss was not the only one up to no good which is why the company handled that situation the way they did. Next time, I would've considered going to the authorities if they don't handle the situation properly. But don't feel bad, you were stuck between a rock and hard place with NO support, surrounded by people who were out to sabotage you in order to cover their scam.

 

Your honesty deserves to be valued. I hope you find better employment and better friends.

 
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February 27, 2007, 6:24 am PST

02/27 "What Would You Do?"

These people are nuts.  I cannot believe that woman and the revenge-on-the-exes thing.  Isn't cutting plugs off appliances and boiling clothes to shrink them vandalism (which was a crime the last time I checked)?  All this does is give credence to that old saw that women are like men, minus reason and accountability.  If a guy's that big a jerk, the best "revenge" is to not let the idea of him control your thoughts and actions.  Warning a woman that a man is abusive is one thing; trashing his stuff to satisfy one's basest instincts is ridiculous and embarrassing.

 

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I really don't believe that ethics have changed that much.  I think we SEE more ethical violations because of changes in laws and because people are less trusting of big business and the government.  I don't think those entities are blameless but I don't think they've changed much.  At least we have laws now that prohibit child labor, theoretically require a minimum wage (inadequate as it is), and are supposed to hold companies to some form of workers' rights and safety standards.  I don't think they are as helpful or as well-enforced as they should be, but 75 or 100 years ago, they weren't there at all and business owners had a lot more leeway to hire, fire, underpay, and maim workers as they pleased and as was most profitable.  The "good old days" were often very hard times (ask your parents or grandparents who grew up during the Depression) with even fewer social safety nets than we have now.  Anyone who reads any nonfiction history knows that the Victorian age or the 1950's or whatever era you care to idealize was not nearly as rosy as the movies and the religious Right want us to think.  I'm a 29-year-old unmarried woman with an average education; 100 years ago my options would have been limited pretty much to schoolteacher, nurse, servant to my parents or married brother, or prostitute.

 

Worried about genetically altered food?  Read Upton Sinclair's The Jungle and be glad your food can't legally be produced under those conditions any more.

 

Anybody else here read Mark Twain or Dickens?  I suspect there's a reason they include so many characters who are charlatans and thieves.  Apart from them being good comic opportunities, I'm pretty sure it goes to show that there have always been scam artists and corner-cutters in the world.

 
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February 27, 2007, 6:31 am PST

Polite works for me.

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What goes around...... come's around. I would like to think that if someone wronged me, i would let it go.... but it would all depend on the severity of the offence! I am not someone who has had alot of experience with revenge, mostly becouse i tend to avoid conflict.

 

Also would like to add..... I have worked in costumer service for a long time ( and about 6 year's of that as a cashier!) It seem's to me that cashier's have been depicted a little "stupid" in some of the previouse post's. We are human..... and we do make mistake's & keep in mind..... some of us deal with money in the thousand's every day!!! ( We give out alot of change!!!) I would also like to add that, i am very thankful that people do return when they have been given the wrong change.... but that doesn't happen often. And... i don't even think it's their fault! people are so busy rushing around these day's, that most of them barely  pay attention.

Just remember next time you are in line.... being polite goes a long way , and make's it much easier to stay at a job that hardly pay's a living wage.  Just think about it!!

 

Cheer's from Canada    

Also I assume that if the register comes up short at the end of the day,the money comes out of the cashier's pocket. It's unfair to them in the long run.
 
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February 27, 2007, 6:51 am PST

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As a Christian, I believe in turning the other cheek. I have done it enough, that I have lost a lot. I am confused, I know I am to set the example and show the love of Christ to others. I just get very frustrated, when people take advantage of this. I am on my third divorce and starting over completely for the second time. When I moved out (was forced out) of my husband's house. Me and my three children moved in to the basement of my first ex. When we went back to get our things, I could have cleaned out the house and taken anything I wanted, I didn't. I only took what was ours, and I didn't even get all of that . Now almost a year later, the judge didn't award me hardly anything, but what he did award me, I can't even get. I have to replace everything , a complete household. This man is so selfish and cold that it didn't even phase him to lie or have his son lie in the courtroom. I just didn't fight. I have so much bitterness and would love to get him back, to see him suffer. I just can't, that's not who I am, I don't have it in me. I just don't think it's fair to watch my children suffer, but I guess that's my fault. I try to do the right thing, it's just that sometimes it's hard when you see people you love suffer. I can relate to the revenge, only in thought, I could never seek it out.
Sherylranee,  hi, i am also a Christian and try to show the love of Jesus. I understand and i do empathize with you when people take advantage of our human vulnerability. I sincerely hope that you and your three children have  a place to live in and fitted out with all that you need for the house. I do feel so sorry for you. I too thought of revenge on occasions when i had been deeply hurt and abused, and my Christian faith and my earthly logic often came to loggerheads. It must be hard to see the  suffering in the faces of your precious children and it must tear you apart. I did once take revenge and later I didn't feel at all justified, but  instead i  had a horrible sense of guilt and shame, especially  toward God.   I will pray for you, i wish i could do more but i't's difficult because i live in Melbourne Australia.  You can email me if you wish, i would love to hear from you. Keep well, love Lory(Maria3255)
 
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February 27, 2007, 7:30 am PST

02/27 "What Would You Do?"

Quote From: greper

wow i have to say that from just what Ive read at the top of this page Melissa sounds like she has a black heart, i don't think i would want her as a friend by any means, what good is revenge? i think a ex is out of the picture and i would want to keep him there, not waste my time trying to get even for filer, is not what she does like pouring salt in a open wound ? i cant wait for Dr Phil to get real with this one !!

I agree! It's sad, but women who act psychotic like her make us good ones look real, real bad. No wonder some men are scared of getting into a committed relationship. When they see a real peice of work like her, trashing her ex's place, gluing his locks and crap like that, I can see the apprehension. Shame on her for making decent, honest, and well-balanced women around the world look psycho. 

 
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February 27, 2007, 7:38 am PST

Are YOU kiddin' ME?

Who wouldn't want some kind of "get back"? We as women are being told not to be doormats, so,NOW its turn the other cheek and boys will be BOYS? I have had men beat me, steal from me,run me up in the funnies, after we broke up, take my house keys so I would have to change my locks, but your saying we should NOT wanna get back at them?Its okay to be bullied and just say, YOU BAD MAN!! and not get some kind of closure? Where are we supose to place our pain as long as you don't get arrested in your revenge,whats wrong with, putting vasaline on the door knobs, taking labels off his/her cans or doing back what they did to you?I'm not saying all people are supose to be evil, but sometimes maybe there IS a time and place for it.
 
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