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Created on : Friday, February 23, 2007, 02:11:45 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/28/07) Most parents find raising a child overwhelming enough, but imagine if your child could neither see you, nor hear you. Now imagine having that child times three. Liz is the mother of deaf and blind triplets. Her three daughters are now 6 years old, but one of the girls communicates at a 2-year-old level, and the other two at only a 10-month-old level. Liz's world is consumed with their 24-hour care, plus the care of her oldest daughter, who is 10 and often overlooked among the chaos of the triplets. After years of dealing with the girls on her own, a new man stepped into Liz's life to fill the shoes of her ex-husband. George thought he could become Liz's hero, but their relationship has been strained from the start, and the stress is tearing them apart. See what a day in Liz and George's lives is like, and the surprises Dr. Phil has in store for them. Plus, meet an inspirational woman who says her world turned from light to dark at the age of 15. She has a message for George and Liz. Join the discussion.

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June 28, 2007, 3:26 pm PDT

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I am a mother of a severely handicapped daughter who has multiple daily seizures.  She is also mentally retarded because of these seizures.  Your routine reminds me of mine, or at least what has been in the past (minus two children!) .  The feces smeared rooms, the endless pharmacy trips, the constant care and the feeling of aloness.  My daughter is now 18.  She has gotten worse, not better BUT I have grown and am dealing with her much better. (There's much more behind that statement!)  I can tell you that your 10 year old (I have a 10 year old, also) does lose out on some things (the mall), but if done right, she can gain and learn compasssion, tolerance, and unconditional love that other children (or adults for that matter) will never learn.  People are always telling me, even strangers, how compassion my other two daughters are.  And they are.  And it is because of my handicapped child.  They approach people who are different from them with comfortableness and ease.  This is a wonderous thing, something good out of the horribleness.  Hang in there.
 
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June 28, 2007, 3:28 pm PDT

get help

My ex wife and I raised tripet girls together until I left when the girls were thirteen.  I did not leave because of the triplet girls. That's another story.

The triplet girls were our only children and the one thing that we did right was, GET  HELP, right from day one when the girls came home from the hospital. You truly need the extra pair of hands, expertise and time away; to cope with the unrealistic presure of new borns to new parents. Our church , families and several businesses did help us.. But we hired ourselves a private nannie with triplet experience, who  taught us how to change diapers and make formula.

Although that was 21 years ago, the memory of the stressful stiuation still linger. I'll also add that if given that chance to do it differently, I'ld still do it all over again.

These were Ontario's first test tube triplets and Canda's second.   

 

Thanks David Picard

Guelph Ontario

 
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June 28, 2007, 3:35 pm PDT

Laws for disabilities

What I dont understand is why the school system is not involved.  I missed most of the show so I dont know if that was covered.  The children should be getting OT, PT and OMI services.  I worked with a blind child for 1 year in a local school system where I am from.  Help is out there I would check and see what is out there.
 
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June 28, 2007, 3:49 pm PDT

Blind/Deaf Triplets

Hello there,

My name is Sara. I went to college to become a child psychologist, then three semesters later I found out that college wasn't for me! What I learned from those three years of child psyc. could help your three daughters!? Let them feel the vibration of your voice when your speaking to them and you can do that by holding one of their hands to your throat(s) when you're speaking to each of them. One other thing is don't leave you oldest daughter out, have her be involved with this idea also! The reason for this idea here is to let your triplets feel the vibration of the words that you are saying to them so maybe down in the long run, they'll be able to pick up the vibrations that they feel when you're talking that they might say a word or two, who knows!!!? I never did this, although I have read about this in text books before...!

 

     In God We Trust ~ Sara

 
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June 28, 2007, 3:54 pm PDT

Deafblind triplets

I'm overwhelmed with the show on the deafblind triplets. I can't stop crying. God guide Liz and George through this. Anyone who is a parent of one, at times loses their patience and that is with a child that can see and hear, i can't imagine the added pressure and stress the family has and is continually going to experience. There is just so much i want to say and i just can't find the words. I'm so thankful for my healthy 1 yr old daughter my husband and I have and I am so scared to have another only because we were so blessed with this one. I can't help but think that these poor little girls feel scared and alone and frustrated and that is only because I know the pleasure of having sight and being able to hear. I feel so guilty for complaining that my daughter has to touch everything and can be so loud at times. I know we truly take the small things for granted.
I commend Liz and George for all that they have/are going through and for the love and committment they have for their family. I hope they receive all the help and resources they need and that they work together and through this. I wish that the girls experience eternal joy and happiness and that they always know that they are loved not only by their parents but people world wide who were made aware of them today, and not for their disability but because of their innocence and their influence in my life. May strenght and courage and faith bless them all.

Anabela
Milton ON Canada
 

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June 28, 2007, 4:04 pm PDT

Critisism Not Productive

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i have been a pediatric nurse for many years and there is something terribly wrong.  these children despite their handicaps should be learning to communicate and should have already been potty trained.  I don't know whether they have not had any help or pursued any help for them.  there are many, many government programs available for them.  I have had many patients that are blind and/or deaf and they were potty trained at a very young age. 

I have been a parent of a special needs child now for 16 years.  My son was initially diagnosed as autistic because of his lack of socialization with other students, and his language development.  He started to lose what little language he had at 5 1/2 years old, and his condition has since been a degenerative disorder.  (Scoliosis,seizures, needs to be catheterized and cannot communicate via sign language because he does not have the motor skills to do this.)  He has been in a special education program since he was 2 years old, and has been  in contact with many professionals in his life, (occupational therapists, speech therapists, geneticists, nephrologists, urologists, and many neurologists, and there is not any answer to what is going on with him.  He is currently nonverbal, and works with switches at school  to communicate.  Considering his inability to communicate, he does not show any frustration beacause he is on a strict schedule, and his needs are anticipated by those who care for him.   The school, my mother, and I have tried for many years to toilet train him, but to this day, he still wears diapers.  He is put on the toilet regularly, and will go in the toilet at predictable times, but still has some accidents at times in his diaper.   Try to do this with 3 children at once.  Sometimes it is just not possible for individuals with disabilities to communicate.  There may be neurological issues going on with these triplets as well.

As far as the government goes, it depends on what state you live in, as to what assistance you are able to receive.

Sometimes we as parents of children  with disabilities pursue many options, and do much research, and still cannot get our children to communicate or be toilet trained.  If your child is at the severe end of the disability spectrum, you are looking at caring for needs that they cannot perform on their own, because they are physically unable.  I have to do hand over hand feeding with my child, and bathe him everyday.  He will not ever be an independent human being. 

Also, if you don't  have the financial means to do all this, these children fall through the cracks.  Since you are in the medical field, I am sure that you are aware that the insurance company will only pay a certain percentage of outside therapies. (speech,occupational therapy, and physical therapy.

Each child with a disability needs to be looked at individually.  There may be other physical reasons why these triplets are not toilet trained, or that they cannot communicate.  I don't think that is not because the parents have not tried. I could not imagine trying to toilet train 3 children with special needs all at once.  This family does need additional help, but I don't  think that the reason these triplets are not toilet trained or do not communicate because of the parenting.

As a a parent of a child with a disability, everyone seems to have the answers of what is best for my son, including my family.  Unless you are in the shoes of being a parent of child or children with disabilities, it is difficult to comprehend the full scope of all the challenges that we face on a day to day basis.

 

 
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June 28, 2007, 4:04 pm PDT

06/28 Silent Darkness

This episode was amazing! If a couple needed his help it was this couple.

Perspective is the key when you look at things negatively they will be negative and such an overwhelming situation can wear down even the strongest people!

 

I'm so glad he got  them some assistance.  They need to be in contact with the school district or child find in there state to see what additional services are available to them as parents of special needs children. There are parental support groups and advocacy groups out there that can also provide support and assistance.

 

There are places that will even provide trained respite care so the parents can have a "break"

They need to stay strong and UNITED. They need to build in more supports, communicate better with each other and work together as a team. 

I was so glad for them to know Dr. Phil was able to help and provide them with so many supports and services plus the trip! How cool was that - they need and deserve it !

Laurie 

 
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June 28, 2007, 4:13 pm PDT

06/28 Silent Darkness

My heart goes out to the mom of these beautiful Little girls.  My mom had triplet girls and I know how hard it is to grow up with 3 girls that are the same age and need all that attention.  I am the oldest out of 5.  I think that she is doing all that she can and that is what the girls need.  The girls know that you are there.  They know who mom is and they love you very much.
 
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June 28, 2007, 4:14 pm PDT

Liz and George

Dear friends of children, my heart is filled with encouraging words for you.. I hope you will take time to listen.. I've e-mailed the Show in hopes my phone and e-mail will be given you.. I want to

help (not monetarily or for monetary). All my life (I'm 46) I've been spiritually blind/deaf.. and God

has finally showed me what faith is all about! The only hope any of us have is faith, faith in God of course, but true living has to come from faith, and that is what your children need. But in order

to have faith we must have a sense of order; the Universe and Time are our Teachers ultimately, but I have some ideas of how to seperate their identies, days, nights and responsibilities by trusting in the order of things.. May God richly bless you and yours, Sincerely

 
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June 28, 2007, 4:15 pm PDT

06/28 Silent Darkness

  This story brought back so many memories for me.  My son was diagnosed as deaf at age 18 months.   I was bitter, scared, and angry.  Finally, I was put in touch with the John Tracy Clinic in LA.  This place changed everything for us........similar to the intervenors.....they were the ones who gave us the information we needed to be the parents our son needed us to be.    It was a struggle,  but the end result is our son is going into a mainstream High School this year, completely comptent and with many friends and the best attitude I have ever seen on a teenager.  He plays baseball, has been in school plays, active in Boy Scouts, loves country music, plays guitar, and well.....just doing great.  When he was 3 I found a card with an inspiring message on it that I framed and put in his room next to his bed.  My goal was that he would be able to read it and understand it's message some day....and it would inspire him, like it did me.  It is still there 12 years later....and it means the same thing today as it did then.  It says:

 

Dreams are never destroyed by circumstances

Dreams are born in the heart and mind

and only there can they ever die

Because while the difficult takes time

the impossible just takes a little longer

 
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