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Topic : 08/03 Caught in the Act

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Created on : Friday, February 23, 2007, 02:18:10 pm
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(Original Air Date: 03/02/07) Do you live on the edge without thinking about the consequences? Dr. Phil's first guest made headlines across America. Crowned Miss Nevada in October 2006, Katie Rees was dethroned two months later when pictures of her in compromising positions surfaced. Why does she say her punishment was unfair? Then, David admits that he used to sneak out of the house in the middle of the night to have sex with another woman while his wife, Sara, slept. He got away with it for a while, until Sara woke up and went knocking on the other woman's door, catching David with his pants down. Should Sara give David another chance, or is David not ready to make a change? Dr. Phil has some tough questions for him. And, Kendra, 26, has been shoplifting since she was 9 years old. She's been to jail once and is currently on probation, but says she just can't stop stealing. You won't believe who taught her how to do this! Dr. Phil has a strong warning for this mother of three. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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March 2, 2007, 9:17 am CST

One Can Hope

Quote From: flthomcat

I would venture to guess that every intelligent individual in this country knows (by now) that a beauty pageant is really about physical beauty. If it were not, there would be heavy girls, ugly girls, short girls (etc) because brains and talent come in all shapes and sizes.

 

I stopped watching these shows decades ago and our own pre-teen daughter isn't even interestdd in them. Hopefully, one day, society will get to the point where outside beauty pageants mean NOTHING, celebrities mean NOTHING, sports stars mean nothing, fame and fortune and looks mean NOTHING, etc. Until that time, we'll continue to have lousy relationships, a lack of values/ethics and many problems in our lives.

 

MOOO! My own 11 y/o...has she even seen a beauty pageant...I don't think so. Of course, now we have such drivel as "America's Next Top Model" that seem to be geared to the tween set.

 

As much as I think our priorities concerning celebrity, fame, and fortune are screwed up, and I certainly would like to see those priorities shift (e.g., Oprah having the most recent Chemistry Nobel laureate on her show, rather than pretty boy Tom Cruise), I don't think such a priority shift can be a pre-requisite for curing society's ills. A part of a larger change in how we view things as a culture, perhaps, but not a pre-condition. And, sadly, I don't think it will happen in my lifetime.

 
March 2, 2007, 9:54 am CST

Leave this cheater!

Quote From: flthomcat

Listen with your head, not your heart.

 

DEEP DOWN you know if this is a remorseful man who hates himself for what he has done and will never do it again OR if this is a man who is only sorry he got caught and will continue to cheat on you.

 

Once you can answer that question HONESTLY, you'll know what you need to do. God wants us all to honor our committments and stay loyal to eachother and there are people who cheat once, feel incredibly bad about it and never do it again. However, there are many more who make the choice to continue such immoral behavior. The cost in the latter instance may be your life.....your daughter could lose her mother to HIV/Aids.

 

Again, listen with your head and listen to that little voice on your shoulder that really does know which category your husband falls into.... God bless you and your daughter...and even him.

 

 

Leave this cheater! He is not worth your love! You can do it!
 
March 2, 2007, 9:56 am CST

Sara should leave him

Quote From: ajustus212

Poor Sara.  David is an awful person who is endangering the lives of his children and wife by sleeping with diseased women.  He is all into the drama and doesn't really care who he hurts in his pursuit of his own ego.

 

The show is on today - I can't wait to watch it.

 

Sara should leave this cheater! he will not change! No amount of counseling will help this pathological cheater! As Dr.Phil said, why bother getting married when you can't stay monogamous? There are good things about being single too. Sara is a strong woman and she can make it on her own!
 
March 2, 2007, 10:05 am CST

Absolutely agree

Quote From: babyjayne2

I am sorry this is the only time Dr.Phil and I disagree. CHEATING. Okay so a one time fling, people can work through it hopefully, mistakes happen, but they do not happen over and over and over again. Then it's a different story. The cheater has tow lives he has a "relationship" with the other person, even if it is only sex. He cheated on his wife, he cheating on himself and he cheated on his vows. ( If there are kids involved he's cheated on them). Cut your losses and leave. You can't fix something that doesn't exist and there is no marriage when there is a cheater.
I have left my last marriage because of cheating and remarried but I've told my current husband up front that if he cheats, he's out, no excuses, plain and simple. I'm going to a divorce lawyer immediately with no regrets. I was a single mother for a while making less monay, I can do it again. I don't want to go through this hell again. Fortunately my husband is much better than my ex and we have better relationship now. I agree that once a cheater is always a cheater. sara should just leave this *&%$@ and move on. She is a wonderful, loving woman and deserves better!
 
March 2, 2007, 10:09 am CST

Deaf Blind Triplets

As a former special ed teacher, one of my internships was to work with deaf/blind children. I prayed everyday for the Lord to give me patience and understanding while working with these children for only 5 hours a day, and only 9 months. We had 1 teacher and she had 4 aides to help her.  I can not even begin to imagine what this family has been going through. Even seeing it on TV doesn't even begin to tell the story of what a day in their live's looks like and feels like. This mother is a saint and I was so happy to see the help you had in store for them. The cruise must seem like a dream come true for them. You offered them some much needed help that should have been available to them from the beginning of their ordeal. I thank you Dr. Phil for doing as much as you can for this family. When these girls hit puberty, one can only imagine what these parents will be facing, but not alone, thanks to you.
 
March 2, 2007, 10:10 am CST

WHY

Quote From: flthomcat

Listen with your head, not your heart.

 

DEEP DOWN you know if this is a remorseful man who hates himself for what he has done and will never do it again OR if this is a man who is only sorry he got caught and will continue to cheat on you.

 

Once you can answer that question HONESTLY, you'll know what you need to do. God wants us all to honor our committments and stay loyal to eachother and there are people who cheat once, feel incredibly bad about it and never do it again. However, there are many more who make the choice to continue such immoral behavior. The cost in the latter instance may be your life.....your daughter could lose her mother to HIV/Aids.

 

Again, listen with your head and listen to that little voice on your shoulder that really does know which category your husband falls into.... God bless you and your daughter...and even him.

 

 

 I think the easiest way to answer whether to trust a cheater not to cheat again or not is to know the answer to why it happened. For example if he has self esteem problems and has filled that gap with the this affair then there has to be something else that helps him start to deal with those feelings for him not to go there again. Is it a lack of respect for your bond or for you? I think that could be the worst answer because its speaks of a persons true character which few people truly change. I think basically cause and efffect determine a repeat, and BTW a broken home can easily hold two parents, Best wishes I hope all turns out positive for you.

 
March 2, 2007, 10:56 am CST

Life Lessons

Katie Rees was an interesting article to read. It seems to me that she has clearly not learned the lesson that needed to be learned. I hope other young girls see this as an example of how making poor choices early in life can have ripple affects far beyond what they are able to comprehend.

 

Personally, I don't think she had really forgotten about the pictures -- I think she hoped they would never surface and she took a gamble that they wouldn't. She signed an agreement and professed that things like this did not exist and they did so now she is experiencing the consequences. That in my opinion is totally different than what happened with Miss USA who clearly had not intended to go down the path she went down. I don't think I would have given her a second chance but it still seems like quite a stretch that Katie is trying to compare their situations.

 

Maturity comes with time and age.

 
March 2, 2007, 10:59 am CST

Is she for real?

 I have no problem with pageants, but come on.  This girl makes them  look bad.  Ms. Nevada should have had her title taken away.  She is clueless when it comes to morality or just plain doing what's right.  She DID run for Ms. Nevada which means she represents the girls in the state that are in her age bracket.  Running for Miss Universe means that she is portraying herself as the standard for girls her age.  I certainly do NOT want someone who does what she has done representing the girls I know.  I don't care if she was 19.  Hello -- at 19 you should be outgrowing the tendency to act like a child.   And when she compared herself to a sports star -- I don't agree with the sports star who said that either, but at least he wasn't in a competition that makes him a specific representative of his state, potentially his country.She obviously has not grown up at all.  Another part of growing up is taking responsibility.  Something she is not willing to do.  So, I say to her, suck it up & grow up...
 
March 2, 2007, 11:03 am CST

Dolled up and fake.....

Quote From: bactphd95

Or, as I heard it referred to 3 decades ago by someone with an Animal Husbandry degree, a "glorified cattle judging." MOOOO...

 

 I would almost say these T& A contests are even worse than porn, because these things (especially Miss America, which is dying a slow, painful death) pretend to be about "talent" and "scholarship" and "poise" when in reality, it's about the pretty factor. At least with porn, "what you see is what you get."

But the women in pageants and most porn are dolled up and fake.  "Real" women don't look like that and it annoys me that Cosmo and Glamour and these pageants try to make it seem to be beautiful that you have to look like this very skinny and probably not healthy women.  I'm not saying that being fat is okay, but I am 5'9 and 175 lbs, and I look damn good, and if I entered one of those pageants, I know I would lose, but I'm okay with that.
 
March 2, 2007, 11:19 am CST

Shoplifting

 I know someone who was also taught shoplifting at an even younger age.  In fact, an entire group of siblings were taught.  The boys would walk into the store with ratty old shoes and walk out with brand new cowboy boots on their feet. 
It is difficult to stop.  It becomes such a part of your nature when you learn so young.  But you CAN stop.  This person did stop.  It took others to tell her how wrong it is and to remind her that it is not something to take pride in doing.
So, I just want to tell Kendra.  IT IS WRONG!!!  It's not something to get a thrill about or to take pride in.  Is this something you want your children to learn?  Do you want your chldren bragging to their friends that their mom is a great shoplifter???  Place notes to yourself in your purse and pockets.  Have trusted friends remind you on a regular basis.  It does become something you don't even think about but you can change it if you want to.
 
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