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Topic : 08/03 Caught in the Act

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(Original Air Date: 03/02/07) Do you live on the edge without thinking about the consequences? Dr. Phil's first guest made headlines across America. Crowned Miss Nevada in October 2006, Katie Rees was dethroned two months later when pictures of her in compromising positions surfaced. Why does she say her punishment was unfair? Then, David admits that he used to sneak out of the house in the middle of the night to have sex with another woman while his wife, Sara, slept. He got away with it for a while, until Sara woke up and went knocking on the other woman's door, catching David with his pants down. Should Sara give David another chance, or is David not ready to make a change? Dr. Phil has some tough questions for him. And, Kendra, 26, has been shoplifting since she was 9 years old. She's been to jail once and is currently on probation, but says she just can't stop stealing. You won't believe who taught her how to do this! Dr. Phil has a strong warning for this mother of three. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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August 3, 2007, 2:47 pm PDT

David & Sarah

Today is about  David, who cheats on his wife, Sarah.  Sarah said she woke up, David was gone, and she went to the house where he was at.  She said she wanted to tear the woman's hair out.  She said this woman needs to leave her husband alone.

 

HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO  Wake up Sarah.  WAKE UP!!!!!  This woman didn't come to your home, hit him over the head, and drag him back to her house.  DAVID LEFT YOUR HOUSE AND WENT TO THE OTHER WOMAN'S HOUSE. 

 

So, let's keep this in perspective.  DAVID needs to leave the other woman alone.  DAVID needs to be married to you or get out.  DAVID needs to get up in the night, go to the bathroom, miss the bowl like most men do, THEN GET BACK IN BACK WITH HIS WIFE!!!!!

 

Your first line of defense (or offense) should not be directed at the woman whose house your husband went to.  Your first anger should be AT HIM!!!    Finish raking him over the coals - begin and end your anger with him.  Fight the 'other woman' when you wake up and find her in YOUR bed!!!

 
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August 3, 2007, 2:48 pm PDT

A Lawyer a cheater?

WOW! Get out, get out now! He is more worried about what you are going to get from him in divorce than he is on saving his marriage and getting help. I know easier said than done but he seems to not want to change as counseling he would have to tell the truth to get help which then leaves chance for proof in a divorce case. My heart goes out to his wife.
 
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August 3, 2007, 2:48 pm PDT

Self respect

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    I sure don't want her being in the spot light in front of my Grand kids.. there's a to much of that all around them ...and when your in the Spot Light  the HEATS on.....

I couldn't help but be sadden while watching today's episode, knowing there would be other women out there hating on the young Ms. Nevada for her actions.  We spend thousands if not millions of dollars a year on medication and gym memberships and trips to the mall to make us feel better about ourselves and especially our bodies-  When here, we have a young women who is proud of how she looks, and able to admit she may have made bad choices.  We condone her, but have no problem defending a woman who chooses to stay with an unfaithful man, who we know has children-  We want to stop the cycle of men cheating and disrespecting women?  We stop saying it is okay for women to stay in unfaithful and unloving and unhealthy relationships because of kids-  Guess what?  I would rather my daughter learn acceptance and pride in her body, than that it is okay to accept an unfaithful partner, because she has kids.  We teach our kids through actions-  I heard Ms. Nevada apologize for her mistake, but not once heard the wife apologize for staying or for teaching her children that this behavior (cheating and ignoring) were acceptable. 

 
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August 3, 2007, 2:53 pm PDT

Kendra

Get help! Your Mother needs help! Kendra Stop the cycle take what ever help you can from Dr. Phil before you rob your children of a mother.
 
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August 3, 2007, 2:54 pm PDT

Keeps going!

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Dr Phil the pageant was 100% correct! Katie Rees' story is where she feels she was wronged, if she was it was by her own fraud! She plays this pity party, and wonders why her career isn't where she wants it, stop whining and live your life correctly. Unfortunately for her most woman are appalled by her actions then and now, the only ones who are positive about her are the men interested in seeing her without any clothes on, the only acting jobs will be porn or close to it. But as to how she dressed today, we just are not feeling sorry for her, until she really truly gets it no one is going to take her seriously. Thanks for being such a great host

I would have worn the dress if I could!  And the sad thing is, we love to hate on each other don't we women?  She may chose to star in porn, and as long as there are weak women who stay in cheating relationships there will be men who purchase porn.  Let's stop hating and judging each other ladies and start building each other up and supporting each other.  It may be harder than hating on a young girl with a good body who we may envy-  but we all want the same things- to be successful, feel good about our bodies, our minds and be loved unconditionally even when we mess up.  God!  If what I did when I was 19 was blasted for everyone to see, I would hate to think how nasty you would judge me-- I admire her for going on the show, knowing how hateful and nasty women are to each other-  I am proud of her confidence of going on TV and sharing what she believed-  too many women don't have this confidence-  and it is because we beat each other down!  We are in this together and we have enough of the world against us to be against each other, regardless of what paths we take.

 
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August 3, 2007, 2:59 pm PDT

Miss Kati Rees

I think she is missing the point and needs to take a good look at herself.  Miss America is more than just a beauty pageant.  Miss America appeals to many young girls and if you portray yourself as a fornicator, liar, sexual philanderer and just plain full of yourself then maybe a porn star would be more her style.  She appears shallow shallow shallow to me and I am so Thankful she is not representing America and cannot influence our young girls.  I also think the so call second chance for the current Miss America has made the industry a complete joke.    What miss Rees did was morally wrong, its not just having fun.!!  Try having fun and holding on to your morals at the same time.

good luck,

jmho

 
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August 3, 2007, 3:04 pm PDT

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FREAKING MIND?

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This is clearly the way all american men should act, it shows how he knows the role of women in modern society.

Are you actually saying that men have a right to cheat on their wives.    What the hell do you mean by "he knows the role of women in modern society?"   Clarify that for me will ya.

 

If men have a right to sleep with other women before and during the marriage and it be "ok" in society, then women should have the right to do the same.      But no, if a woman sleep around she's a slut but a man is patted on the back and told "way to go"

 

If a man can't keep it in his pants (other than with his wife)  than he has no business getting married.  Stay single and sleep with whomever he wants.  

 

What about protection?  Doesn't this guy care about diseases? 

 

The role of women in modern society is to be a career-minded (yet loving) woman who can balance her family (if she has one) and work.    Women do not need a man to be her protector.  Women are not property.   Women have the right to be whatever she choses to be!

Women have minds and can do quite well without a man.     This is not the 1950's where women are pregnant all thru her life. (LOL)    Any man who thinks that they are superior or more important than women have another thing coming - they are not more important.  

 

 
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August 3, 2007, 3:14 pm PDT

08/03 Caught in the Act

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Anyone who can cheat twice (or more) on a spouse is a cruel, selfish, immature jerk. The person who continues to stay with this type of jerk should be ashamed of herself (or himself). You are simply a glutton for punishment...a self-imposed "victim." Only YOU can change your circumstance. Stand up and have some self-respect. Nobody will respect you if you don't even respect yourself!

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First, let me say I have a great deal of self-respect and many others respect me as well because I have worked hard and have overcome a terrible situation. The lady portrayed in the second segment did NOT catch her husband in the act, she caught him at another woman's house. That's not to say it wasn't obvious what had been going on, but there is a difference. I didn't catch my husband in the act, either. What I found were pictures and videos of him having sex with other women -- several other women -- both in one-on-one AND menage-a-trois scenarios. And I'm still with him over a year later. Why didn't I leave him? Because he expressed true remorse and a willingness to work very hard to change and I recognized that I was not blameless in the destruction of our marriage. I am blameless in his extramarital affairs, but not in creating the environment in which they became a viable option for him. 

 

We have BOTH worked very hard this past year, we have made our marriage our primary focus and we have both changed. I am absolutely certain he has not cheated on me since the day we agreed to rebuild our marriage. However, it would never have worked if he had not been genuinely remorseful and if he had not been willing to change some of his basic personality traits. I do not believe that the lawyer in this segment is genuinely remorseful or honestly willing to change. I hope his wife understands that, if he does not put 100% of his efforts into rebuilding their marriage and regaining her trust she MUST leave him or accept that he will never be the faithful, loving husband she deserves and the father their children deserve.

 
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August 3, 2007, 3:38 pm PDT

Katie Rees

You have to wonder how she got as far as she did.  I thank heaven that someone pulled her "Trump" (all puns intended) card!  If Donald Trump didn't stop her, the whole world would have used her as a measure of our countries overall intelligence! 

 

As soon as I saw her, and I mean as soon as I turned the channel, I could not get pass the yellow spandex dress, ankle tie stillettos, and pole dancer eye makeup!  She looked exactly like the person she said she was not.  She was highly disappointing in her communication, appearance, sincerity...even her posture was WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!  Seriously, is this the type of person that we as Americans would like to represent us?  Not me!  I mean, come on, quoting Charles Barkley...what a Rhodes Scholar she is! 

 

Was her mother in the audience?  She should have waived her down in between commercial breaks, and coached her a bit...well, alot!  And, "if you got it, flaunt it?", that's really a justification for wearing club wear to a daytime talk show.  Did she think that we would miss her if she didn't pull out the yellow glove?  Did she know that she was the only guest on the stage, so there was no need to stand out?  Where oh where do we get these types of personalities?  She must be lobbying for the "silly spot" that Nicole Richie seems to be willingly giving up on the empty shell circuit!

 

She irritated me so much, that I could not even finish watching the show!  I was too busy praying for the light to go on in her head!  Hello.....is anybody in there?  She should just enjoy her 15 minutes, and fade into the happy space known as CLUELESS! 

 

Some people are beyond your help Dr. Phil!

 

 
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August 3, 2007, 3:50 pm PDT

Amen

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 I wish that one of the counselors that my husband and I went to had said what Dr Phil said to that cheating husband.  Too many therapists let the cheating spouse "put it in the past" and make the wounded spouse feel like their reaction is wrong, that their reaction is the reason the marriage won't mend.   Is there some way Phil can push this forward to be a common practice for marriage therapists to use.  "Damage control, smoke screens, flat out denials & lies" are the way cheaters approach the therapy because they have been successful in doing the scam for probably their entire lives.  Our therapist attempted to make the session a "soft place to fall".  My anger and frustration was made to be a fault....She would say "He bought you flowers, he is trying"  WHAT!!!! That one I still can't understand.   All I wanted was the truth, I felt I was worth the truth.  That if we got to the truth, there was a chance for a foundation for the future.  All I got was him being nice to me.  He continued to lie & scam his way thru anything that put him in a bad light.  He divorced me. He has told everyone that he did everything he could do to make the marriage work, but I couldn't forgive him and I was going to punish him for the rest of our lives.  Well, I have to live with all the pain and humilation for the rest of my life.  He of course has the new 20 year old girlfriend, has given her over $50,000 and tries to nickel & dime me, his wife of 25 years.   I believe therapy could have worked if it was truth driven.  Just like Phil did today.
I am so glad it was said.  I have felt this way for so long.  I felt like I was going crazy because the people who care just wanted to blame me the person cheated on.  I gave him every chance to tell the truth and everytime he told me some stupid story, insulting my intelligence.  I knew he was lying but I wanted him to say so and tell me because I felt it was owed to me.  Now a year later he tells me the truth and also lets me see the person he cheated with.   I wanted to know why now? he said because he was protecting me from the truth and also because I would leave him if I found out, HUH.  I told him I was owed that information fairly when it happened so i can make a decision on what I personally can handle as a human being and he held that right from me.  I said how did that help us when you continued to lie and what for? I felt he was holding on to her and would not let it go! and I was the one who in peoples eyes that could not let it go.  I told him to tell me the truth and put it on the table so we can move on and he did not do that.  I am here now wondering how you can build trust from lies on top of cheating?  I am a good person and when I make faults I face it.  He on the other hand wanted to prove himself to me and in the long run he was lying. Why trust now?  People who want to work it out face it and let it go!  I feel hiding it is holding on to it and thats when the relationship is not worth the fight.  He was the one who told me what had happened and maybe that is a start for trust but then when you damage that with lying after the truth, my question is what is the point?
 
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