Topic : 03/05 Anna and Britney: Behind the Headlines

I think Anna's mother is possibly getting a bad rap.  She has lost her daughter and her grandson.  How devastating!  I watched my parents suffer the loss of my 17 year old brother and we all grieved for years.  

 

Dr. Phil said you had to take care of a child, feed a child, etc.  He was so right.  That is what Anna's mother did until her grandson was 5 or 6 years old, and what she did with her daughter Anna until her daughter left home.  You don't quit loving a child you spend that kind of time with.  I just took care of a niece one day a week until she was 5 years old.and I adore her even though I seldom get to see her.  They moved away and she is  now in school. 

 

I don't know Anna's mother, but she was an officer of the court.  She would have lost her job and her way of making a living if she had allowed drugs in her home and did nothing about it.  I don't think any mother would have approved of Anna's lifestyle, and Anna appeared to push people away that questioned her lifestyle.  Virgie was estranged by Anna.  We don't know that Anna was estranged by her mother or the grief of her mother.  Her grief will never end.  I don't know that Anna had a perfect home or had a wonderful mother, but she has a mother that is grief stricken.  She wanted her daughter and grandson home and I don't fault her for that. 

 

I find it ridiculous to say that Anna needs to rest in peace, like she really is going to rest in peace if someone would just bury her next to her son.  Anna's body does not know what is going on here. 

 

Our soldiers die daily and it is natural for a parent or family to want their family member home.  Especially to want them on US soil.  I have a great uncle buried somewhere in France as a result of WWII.  The longing to have him on US soil and brought home never went away.

 

I think Anna was and is Howard Stern's meal ticket.  She was mad at Larry for telling her to get off of drugs, and moving to a place where he couldn't get his child was calculated and mean spirited. 

 

Her mother isn't a person of means, so I can understand her taking plane trips and amenities to get done what she wanted done.  Howard appears to be the one making the big bucks and was trying to hock pictures of her before her body was warm.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did she dispute it when alive?

 I have a close friend whose daughter died from complications of  Lupus.  From what I understand there is more than one kind, one type of Lupus can be deadly.  I have Fibromyalgia which mimics many of the physical and mental symptoms of Lupus, but isn't deadly - you just want to die - maybe Dr. Phil has the two confused.  If Anna has no medical indication of Lupus on autopsy, she could have had Fibromyalgia, which some doctors do treat with methadone or other pain medication.  The pain in your muscles and joints in some patients is severe - regardless of what some doctors who don't know better say.  Of couse she could have been depressed or had post-partum depression compounding everything else she had to deal with.

I admit I watched the Anna Nicole Smith show on TV (Dr Phil should watch tapes of that show) because I felt so sorry for Daniel-same age as my daughter-. He seemed so sweet and shy and mild-mannered.  I wondered if he could have friends over or have a half-way normal life.  In some ways he was another caretaker for his mother who just took over a room.    So I was saddened about his death with drug interactions as a possible cause.  Forget Anna-Who was watching out for Daniel and who was there to help him.  Anna made her choices as an adult.  Daniel couldn't have made a real choice to be on his mother's TV show -he was a child and who was there behind the scenes making money off the footage., Anna and Stern.  Now here's Entertainment Tonight with their "exclusive" footage and as Stern said at the hearing in Florida - they are very good friends!  What's the deal?  First they trash Anna's mother, then Larry  but don't show the clip of Stern talking about his deal with them.  Anna maybe pushed people away trying to help her including her mother but then didn't mind her mother watching Daniel the first seven years of his life while she danced topless and made her way in the world.  Maybe that's why grandma wants to fight Stern tooth and nail for this grandbaby.  Who knows.   I agree with the judge in Florida (who's also been criticized) but maybe he was thinking of the little girl -getting all these people under oath so she can decide for herself someday and lecturing all of them that he prays they do right by this kid-(course had to be careful asking Stern questions cause they were all so grateful he showed up).  I'm kind of sad this little baby is a girl.  ET is probably thinking already about the "exclusive" pictures of her growing up in the Bahamas and on the beaches.  Think how much that footage is worth. I don't know if they are paying Stern or Stern's paying them.  Their "reports" are suspicious to me.

if she married Marshall for love - and she was only "married" in a legal sense for 13 months - and he never put her in his will - if she never married him for his money, I repeat, then why spend 10 times as much time as the marriafge lasted chasing after his money - when he didn't will it to you, whne you had nothign to do with his life when he earned it etc. .... why? PS she was having a two year "affair" (how do you have an affair with an 89 y/o man - an oxymoron statement huh?- so correction: she was getting expensive gifts and breast implants) with Marshall while being married to hre first husband - was that a good role model for her son?

I agree with everything written above...well done.  I would also give Anna's mom a break.  Anna was so drugged ... and I feel so under the control of Stern...that I think she would say things about her mom she may not have necessarily believe.

 

Although its been said Anna decided to go to the Bahamas to have her baby so there would be less press....i believe it was very much so the paternity of this baby may not be revealed.

 

This paternity situation is what disturbs me the most.  I dont feel Dr. Phil stressed enough (if at all) how rediculous it is that this DNA testing hasnt been done...and how the biological father needs to be determined.  If it isnt Larry B.  I will be very very surprised. (In my opinion...the baby already looks very much like him).  I feel Larry has always just wanted to be a part of the baby's life....and I dont feel the inheritance is what motivates him.  On the other hand, I feel Stern is using this baby. 

 

I feel sorry for this whole situation......but I think it is not put into perspective...when it comes to all the other tragedies in life.

Some poster alleged her father raped A-N - you mean her birthfather or natural father - b/c she had a well-publicised reunion and visit with him I bleive in a magazine or on TV (that is Mr. Hogan) and she showed no animosity ,... hum?

LOL! To be honest, I don't really follow this story because I don't care that much, but from the media stories that have been on ad nauseum...it seems there were TWO men claiming to be the father when she was alive. Since her death, more potential daddies have crawled out of the woodwork. They could possibly be after money or their own fifteen minutes of fame....or maybe after she died they suddenly remembered having sex with her a year ago.

Dear Dr. Phil,

 

You obviously have not had to go through the pain and helpless felling of watching someone spiral out of control.  I WILL HAVE YOU TO KNOW THAT I DID STEP UP A NUMBER OF TIMES ON BEHALF OF MY SISTER.  Her life was strikingly close to Anna Nicoles which is the reason I personally have been so drawn to this story.  My sister died in her sleep 2 years ago.  Cause of death was acute pneumonia.  My sister was a very attractive, smart, talented, giving person but life and life issues got the best of her.  In the wake of all of lifes trials that we all must go through some people do not or are not strong enough to handle it like others.  My sister although she was so strikingly beautiful and smart suffered from insecurities, a broken heart from a guy she was madly in love with whom she had a child by who also was her life, greif over the sudden loss of my dad, molestation, and migraine headaches.  Me and my family intervened and watched her go up and down over and over.  One day I planned a kidnapping of her while I left my husband at a hospital with a 3 hour psychologist visit from having brain surgery and suffering memory loss.  I got everything set up and she decided at the last minute not to go.  She also had a Howard Stern as a husband who enabled her I feel.  She would use him to get us off of her.  She was on many pain pills, antidepresants, antianxiety, phenigren, and many other meds.  After her 3rd time coming out of rehab she vowed to never go again.  She to had her way when she wanted it and could manipulate many people to get her what she wanted and enable her.  I tried up until her death.  Her speech was often slurred and she would black out at any minute just like the footage of Anna Nicole.  You tell me Dr. Phil what else when a person is so in this state can anyone do?

Who is suffering in all of this?  Their children, that's who.  Has anybody stopped to think about that?

 

I hope the courts decide to do the right thing where little Dannilynn is concerned and award custody to her biological father (whoever that may be).

 

As far as Britney is concerned, while she won't be winning any mother of the year awards, at least she is finally getting help.  Maybe she should take parenting classes while in rehab, I'm not being snippy, I'm just stating the facts that she seems to have no idea what she is doing concerning those poor children.  I think it's tragic that nannies seem to be raising those kids.  They need their mother!  I can't imagine just leaving my kids in the care of strangers while I was off partying and living a wild dangerous life.  Most people understand that when they make the decision to have children, that changes your life and your lifestyle forever!  If she wasn't willing to do that, she shouldn't have ever had them.  I'm not so sure she is suffering from alcoholism as much as just immaturity and selfishness.  I'm sorry, it just gets me all riled up to see the way those children have been neglected.