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Topic : 03/05 Anna and Britney: Behind the Headlines

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Created on : Friday, March 02, 2007, 12:00:40 pm
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Two Hollywood stars, two incredible sagas that have captivated the nation. Dr. Phil takes you inside the drama surrounding Anna Nicole Smith and Britney Spears. Anna Nicole’s story is one of the most bizarre celebrity cases with unbelievable twists and turns: a beautiful but troubled model, a headline-grabbing pregnancy, the shocking death of her beloved son … culminating in the actress’s untimely demise. Pat O’Brien, host of The Insider, has known Anna Nicole for eight years and shares what it was like spending time with her during her last days. Next up, Alex Goen, CEO of Trimspa, weighs in on the death of his company’s spokesperson. Then, some argue that Britney Spears’ recent behavior—leaving rehab after one day, shaving her head bald, and angrily brandishing an umbrella—indicates that the pop star is in a tragic downward spiral. Frank Griffin, a celebrity photographer, has captured Britney’s public pain through his lens. Are the paparazzi partially responsible for driving this young star to the brink?  Talk about the show here.

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March 5, 2007, 12:27 pm PST

03/05 Anna and Britney: Behind the Headlines

Quote From: dzingrl10

I think that these two women were very strong at the begining of their respective careers but somewhere along the way they were mislead.  I do not know what goes on behind closed doors nor will I pretend that it is not intriguing and I do watch but I try to take what is being "reported" with a grain of salt because we really have no idea what goes on.  My opinion is that Brittney needs people in her life that truely love and care for her and are not afraid to tell her the God's honest truth wheather it hurts or not, she needs someone like Dr. Phil to tell her like it is and ask her his most famous question "How's that working for you?"

I agree with you!

 

When Anna Nicole first began topless dancing, she was only working dayshift hours.  She got implants, she got nightshift.  She got nightshift, she got more clients.  She got more clients, she got more money.  She got more money, she got more famous.  She got more famous, she got less happy...  It all began with something false that was positively reinforced. 

 

When Britney was coming up in the world, she was just a young thing.  A schoolgirl, to be precise.  But what made her stand out?  The fact that she was a sexy schoolgirl!  She let her midriff hang out and shook her hips, and what did we do?  We praised her for it!  We gave her money!  Fame!  When she sang that she wasn't a girl, but wasn't yet a woman, we pushed her into being a woman!  We wanted her to!  We wanted her to strip to sparkly stickers, dance suggestively, and be our toxic drug!  We bought the albums, we watched the videos - we ate it up. 

 

So how can we blame this girl that we took completely out of reality and put onto a pedestal - for struggling when she has to return to reality?  We used to want her to take her clothes off, now we're telling her to put them back on.  We used to want to see her at the parties, now we're telling her to stay home.  I imagine she is very confused. 

 

It seems to me that WE push this falseness on our celebs.  We demand that they be these things.  We reward and worship them for it.  And then when these things take their toll, we sell tickets to witness the devastation.  Instead of talking about what a freak Britney is, consider that she's something we helped create. 

 

I believe Anna Nicole and Britney are just symptoms of what is wrong with our society as a whole.

 
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March 5, 2007, 12:28 pm PST

Can sympathize with Anna

I lost my youngest son, 18, to suicide in June. I can understand her wanting to die to be with him and how it consumes your life. I give glory and honor to Jesus for lifting me up out of that pit. Yes, I will admit there are still times I would rather be with him than here but I am learning to embrace each new day and want to live. Life is a precious gift!
 
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March 5, 2007, 12:31 pm PST

03/05 Anna and Britney: Behind the Headlines

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Yeah, Totally. Thats why I was diagnosed with it?
PPD isn't diagnosed until about 6 to 8 months after you give birth, so if you are saying you were after only one week, you were misdiagnosed.
 
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March 5, 2007, 12:46 pm PST

Thanks

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After I read your post I got curious about the word "paparazzi" What I found out is >>>The tragic death of Princess Diana brought the term"paparazzi" to headlines all over the world. The word paparazzi came from the 1960 Fellini film "La Dolce Vita" and the film's character photograher-companion of Marcello Mastrioanni. The character was based on a real-life street photographer named Tazio Secchiaroli who helped Fellini with his research for the movie. The name Paparazzo(which reputedly is a common surname in Calabria) was borrowed from a vintage travel book titled "By The Ionian Sea", which Fellini just happened to be reading at the time. From what we see today the definition could very well be "pervert with a camera"!
Thanks for the information!
 
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March 5, 2007, 12:50 pm PST

AHA!

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I have to admit that I watch a lot of t.v. I found myself drawn to the AN story. To me it's terribly sad, yet facinating at the same time. I also read all the time. I guess it's kind of like having a true life mystrey being shown on t.v. I have never been a big Britney fan, simply because of my age. But it would be hard not to know who she is. I find that I'm captivated by pretty much everything. (DrPhil, Face the Nation. Meet the Press, my local news, Katie Couric and the nightly news, The Early Show,Law and Order, all of the CSI shows, David Letterman. football, basketball, Access Hollywood, Inside Addition, Jeopardy, Dateline, 60 Minutes, planting flowers, cats,dogs, and Lord help me I'm pretty much addicted to these messageboards.
I just came across this message of yours and I think you show mostly good taste in programming!
 
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March 5, 2007, 12:51 pm PST

they may be famous but they are human beings

Come on these people are no different than any one of us when you hit the wall you never know what you are capable of or how far you will crash.  The only difference is these people are being followed by cameras and media torture which magnifies everything and anything they are doing.  I am not justifying bad behaviour but how would we behave young or older if we were under the same magnifying glass.  I am saddened that we are hungry for the negative and not the positive.  It is time to get a reality check to the media and people who are around anyone who is crisis.  What happened to helping instead of hindering.
 
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March 5, 2007, 12:52 pm PST

Anna Nicole Smith

Anna Nicole Smith's death is, in the truest sense of the word, a tragedy.

 

It might seem impossible, if you would see me and then look at her, to believe that we could ever have anything in common. However, I too lost my beloved only son, Benjamin, five years ago when he was 15, as a passenger in a drag-racing accident. As with Daniel's death, it was sudden after a happy time in our family. I had just turned 50 and my husband and I had celebrated our 25th wedding anniversary.

 

I can't even imagine, from reading about her life up until then, how it felt to be Anna Nicole Smith, the Playboy bunny and celebrity. But I do know how it is to be the grieving mother. For at least six months after Ben died, I just wanted to lay on top of his grave and die myself and let them find me there in the morning. It wasn't that I didn't care about the rest of my family, but there is no way you can replace a child who has given you part of your life back. Though Ben didn't save my physical life, as Daniel might have saved Anna's (or however he did that which was mentioned on Dr. Phil), emotionally Ben's birth gave me something I had not had from a single male relative any time growing up--someone who loved me just because of who I was.

 

So when I saw her recent interviews on TV, I thought, "Is she getting any kind of grief counseling?" "Does she know about the Compassionate Friends?" "Are the people around her letting her grief eat her alive?" And it can, SO easily! It wasn't until two years had passed that I began to feel anywhere near normal again, and that was living a low profile, nondescript life!

 

Then you add in postpartum blues... She didn't have a chance.

 

One of the things our pastor told us when Ben died was "Don't let this be a double tragedy by losing yourselves also." Ironically, watching Anna you would think she was the blessed one--looks, money, fame--but I kind of  doubt if she had anyone in her life tell her that, and show her how to do it. That is the truest tragedy of this whole affair.

 
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March 5, 2007, 12:54 pm PST

03/05 Anna and Britney: Behind the Headlines

Quote From: penny_lady

I think that both of these woman deserve some privacy. 

I do too...but privacy works both ways. you go out with Brandon Davis and Paris Hilton? Sorry, you don't want privacy.

You have two babies at home and wear no underwear to scummy clubs? LOL... well, that's a whole 'nother thing.

 

 
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March 5, 2007, 12:57 pm PST

Lupas!!!!

   I just have to say i'm disapointed at how dr.phil trivialized lupas...it is a very hard to manage disease for some. There are different forms which can be more serious than others i have 1 family member who died from it and 2 that suffer severly from it. So i think it is very possible that anna could have had it and died from it. Females tend to get it more severe than men. She also wasn't taking great care of herself so i'm sure she wasn't following a plan properly. And the woman in my family that suffers from it doesn't drink or smoke and goes to the doctor almost weekly to manage it and she is only 30 yrs old and they say she probly won't be able to work anymore within the next 3 years! I'm dissapointed that a doctor would trivialize such a serious disease. :( i luv dr.phil.......usually.
 
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March 5, 2007, 12:57 pm PST

Anna

 Why is it even on Dr. Phil, the obvious questions everyone is thinking aren't asked? It is OBVIOUS, even to the untrained, that she is under the influence in her interview with Pat O'Brien. Why didn't Pat ask her that? Why  didn't Dr. Phil address it?

Concerning Dr. Phil's comment that parent is a verb, I agree. However, does anyone think that Stern is parenting right now? It's Dannilynn's nannies that are her parent's right now. Birkhead isn't even being given the chance to be a parent. Pat stated he doubted the DNA test would ever be done. PERFECT chance for Dr. Phil to jump on that and he didn't. Why does Pat think the DNA test will never be performed? Could it be because Stern knows the outcome? Of course.

So, if everyone is citing what's best for the child as their motivation, why is determining the biological parent seem to be on the back burner. Stern is banking on the longer the DNA takes the longer he has to build a relationship with Dannilynn and nullify any DNA results to the contrary. Interesting Pat said he asked Stern point blank if he was Dannilynn's father and Stern stated he was. Pat asked the wrong question. Of course Stern believes he's Dannilynn's father. The question that Pat should have asked was if Stern believed he was Dannilynn's BIOLOGICAL father. Big difference.

I was disappointed Dr. Phil didn't pursue this more in depth than other news agencies by asking the point blank tough questions.
 
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