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Topic : 03/05 Anna and Britney: Behind the Headlines

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Created on : Friday, March 02, 2007, 12:00:40 pm
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Two Hollywood stars, two incredible sagas that have captivated the nation. Dr. Phil takes you inside the drama surrounding Anna Nicole Smith and Britney Spears. Anna Nicole’s story is one of the most bizarre celebrity cases with unbelievable twists and turns: a beautiful but troubled model, a headline-grabbing pregnancy, the shocking death of her beloved son … culminating in the actress’s untimely demise. Pat O’Brien, host of The Insider, has known Anna Nicole for eight years and shares what it was like spending time with her during her last days. Next up, Alex Goen, CEO of Trimspa, weighs in on the death of his company’s spokesperson. Then, some argue that Britney Spears’ recent behavior—leaving rehab after one day, shaving her head bald, and angrily brandishing an umbrella—indicates that the pop star is in a tragic downward spiral. Frank Griffin, a celebrity photographer, has captured Britney’s public pain through his lens. Are the paparazzi partially responsible for driving this young star to the brink?  Talk about the show here.

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March 6, 2007, 10:04 pm PST

DR. PHIL........YOU CAN DIE FROM LUPUS!!!

HERE IS THE BEST WAY I KNOW TO EXPLAIN THIS........AND I AM VERY ILL WITH LUPUS AND BY YOU JUST ACTING LIKE IT IS NO BIG DEAL HAS MADE ME SICKER BECAUSE IF LUPUS PEOPLE GET ANGRY OR UPSET THEY GET WORSE.  SO...I AM WORSE TONIGHT.  AND YES!  I KNOW IT IS RUDE TO WRITE IN ALL CAPS BUT I AM UPSET AND ANGRY!!

IMAGINE WALKING THROUGH A MINEFIELD.  AFTER THE FIRST BLOW YOU BECOME RELATIVELY CONSCIOUS, YET YOU HAVE TO KEEP WALKING.  THE FURTHER YOU GET, THE MORE CONFIDENT YOU FEEL.  YOU DECIDE TO WALK FASTER AND CARRY ON MORE RESPONSIBILITIES.  THEN COMES ANOTHER BLOW AND THE DAMAGE IS DONE.  YOU KEEP ON WALKING.  WHEN WILL THE NEXT BLOW COME?  HOW MUCH DAMAGE WILL IT CAUSE?  WILL IT BE THE FINAL ONE????

IMAGINE TAKING THAT WALK FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

IMAGINE THE POSSIBILITY OF NOT BEING THE POSSESSOR OF YOUR OWN MIND.  ALL YOUR THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS WHICH DIRECT YOUR ACTIONS, DECISIONS AND STATEMENTS, NOT BELONGING TO YOU BUT TO A SCIENTIST'S BEAKER.

IMAGINE BEING THE PRODUCT OF THAT SCIENTIST'S LABORATORY FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

IMAGINE HAVING ONE OF THE MOST INTRICATE, COMPLEX, AND POWERFUL FRIENDS IN THE WORLD, YOUR DEFENSE SYSTEM.  NOW THAT FRIEND HAS BECOME YOUR ENEMY AND CAN ATTACK YOU WITH THE SAME CONCENTRATED INTENSITY AS IT IS CAPABLE OF.

THIS TURNOVER HAS SHIFTED TO OFFENSE, AND WILL TURN BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN, BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHEN.

IMAGINE HAVING THIS FRIEND AS A NEMESIS FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

IF YOU CAN TRULY IMAGINE  THESE THREE THINGS.........THEN YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO HAVE LUPUS!!

MY SISTER IN LAW LOST HER BABY SISTER TO LUPUS WHEN HER SISTER WAS ONLY 22.  I SAW THAT BEAUTIFUL GIRL LAYING IN THAT COFFIN AND KNEW I HAD A HUGE FIGHT AHEAD OF ME BECAUSE I HAD JUST BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH LUPUS.  I WOULD LIKE FOR SOMEONE TO TELL HER PARENTS AND SISTERS AND OTHER FAMILY AND FRIENDS THAT MELISSA DID NOT DIE FROM LUPUS.

I HAVE SO MANY THINGS WRONG THAT I WILL LEAVE SOME OUT BUT HERE ARE SOME OF THEM RELATED TO LUPUS.

RAYNAUDS PHENOMENON, SEVERE ARTHRITIS, LUPUS MIGRAINES, SJOGRENS SYNDROME, ANXIETY DISORDER.  I HAVE RUNNING INFECTING SORES ON MY SKIN.  I GET ULCERS IN MY MOUTH.  I SOMETIMES HURT SO BAD I START SCREAMING AND CAN'T STOP AND I JUST WANT SOMEONE TO HELP ME.  I HAVE SO MANY THINGS WRONG THAT IT WILL TAKE TOO MUCH TIME AND I ALREADY HAVE TAKEN UP TOO MUCH SPACE.

MAYBE ONE DAY YOU CAN DO A SHOW ABOUT PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOST LOVED ONES OR ARE TAKING CARE OF VERY ILL LOVED ONES WITH LUPUS.

 
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March 7, 2007, 12:52 am PST

Anna Nicole Smith & Britney Spears

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I think that both of these woman deserve some privacy. 
      Amen!
      And, despite how cold it might sound, who cares?
      Considering what else is going on in the world, both of these stories have been more than merely overblown; they've been milked by irresponsible media, not the least of which includes tabloid TV sludge like "Entertainment Tonight" and "The Insider," to the detriment of a dumbed-down public that should be better served by legitimate, intelligent hard news stories.
      Dr. Phil devoted some time during the program to a discussion of the paparazzi and their invasion of privacy. But by giving time to the Anna Nicole Smith and Britney Spears stories on his program, isn't  Dr. Phil  engaging in the same kind of invasive, exploitative behavior? 
      It may be "good TV," Dr. Phil, but it's a disservice to your audience.
      Yes, Anna Nicole Smith's story has its sad and tragic elements, the two biggest being the death of her son and the birth of an infant daughter who is now motherless. That said, Anna Nicole is being treated as though she were a mega-star, often erroneously compared with Marilyn Monroe. I'm sorry, but she has nothing in common with Marilyn beyond blonde hair and appearances in Playboy. Marilyn Monroe had acting talent; Anna Nicole had only a talent for garnering unwarranted publicity by a celebrity-crazed culture--the very fact of which indicates the culture's emptiness. As we've been told repeatedly, Anna Nicole's sole claim to fame was "being famous for being famous."
      Pardon me for yawning.
      Britney Spears--who, being a parent, urgently needs help--is nonetheless another case in point. A number of years ago on Thanksgiving Day, I attended a family get-together.  A  Britney  Spears  concert  was shown on TV. The kids at the gathering, being uninterested in football, turned it on. I watched only a few minutes of it, but the things that struck me about it were the instrumentation that nearly drowned out la Spears'  excuse for a voice, the laser effects, the numerous scantily-clad dancers in the background, and Britney's own gyrations and revealing outfits. I remarked to another adult that this was evidence of a dearth of real talent, and he agreed. If Britney could really sing, she wouldn't need the pyrotechnics.
      We live in a culture bereft of depth and intelligence, that thrives on (largely meaningless) celebrity gossip to the exclusion of concern about more important world events. Has anyone who worries about superstar tribulations noticed that, because of the country's delusional, lying leadership, people--including too many Americans--are daily dying in Iraq; that FEMA continues to neglect Katrina and other storm survivors; and that global warming is a reality with potentially disastrous consequences for our planet?


 
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March 7, 2007, 1:50 am PST

Britney does not deserve this

Hi I have been a fan of Britney's for a long time, she is a great performer regardless of alot of bad press that she has received over the years.  She is a beautiful girl, that has worked hard from a very young age, to have achieved what she has..

 

Since her marriage Britney has undergone a lot of stress which a lot of women do...Sometimes love is blind as we all know, her husband may love her but I think he caused her some pain when he left her alone  with a new child and would party with other women.  I think there is some behind the scenes that we as (gossip readers and viewers) did not pay attention to.  Her husband mentioned that he liked her at home with the kids, maybe he gave her pressure in regards to her career, so he could attempt to be "the man of the house".  Even though Britney loves her second child, maybe she did not want to have another child so close to the first one.  If we recall during the beginning of her second pregnancy Britney always looked upset and depressed for a while. 

 

So now we have a young women who has worked already since she was about 15 years old basically being the provider of her entire family.  She started her own family, has a husband who never saw money like this before, she needs to continue to work to keep her career on top, and raise two children.  OK, yes she is unlike the norm and can afford a lot of help, but come on, most people could not handle all this at her age. 

 

So she is depressed, the media is ALWAYS in her face.  So she went a little crazy with the partying and her children needed her.  I think she deserves time and privacy to deal with her issues.  Having  a young family that is dependent on you, is stressful. Divorce is stressful, and did we ever think that maybe she really loves her husband but he wasn't giving the support she needed.  Now he seems to us (the viewers) to be supporting her, OH WOW now that she is in rehab.  Well maybe he should have done that a long time ago and gave Britney like any new mother the love and care she needed.

 

I suggest that Britney is left alone, and I hope that her children are back with her and safe with her love and care again soon.  

 
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March 7, 2007, 5:07 am PST

Children left in the Gray area?

I do sympathize with all and anyone with medicala and/or mental-emotional conditions.

I do not intend to take anything away from the adults with troubles themselves!

These children caught in the gray area of gossiping, media attention and battles are an

example of why we all should stop seeing stars as some kind of role model for our children.

I watched some of Anna's reality Tv show, it was very hard to watch sometimes. Anna definately had problems long ago and also was not a great Mother as she did drugs with him and around him all his life.  She was a sexual exhibitionist for any occasion and it made her money and famous. Anna showed anyone who watched it that she would not have listened if soemone did try to help her.  She was stubborn on getting her way and doing whatever she wanted regardless of others being hurt.  I did not dislike her, I seen her movie about her life and felt empathy for her troubles.  Money was one of her highest priorities with her looks. She left people who did love her and did not hurt or abuse her when she had money, that spoke volumes about her ethics so her Mother may not have been such a monster as many depict her now. I do not feel that she deserved some of the jokes and crappy comments from other stars.  Even Jim carey went way out of line with claiming the wish bone on a national news prgram.

Even the Entertainment Tonight was over money not a friendship or thought of welbeing for her?

I doubt Anna made rational decisions over her children, her Mother or her life, that is sad!  From my perspective that is.  I have so much more sympathy for the children in these cases.  What is the man caring for this baby thinking not even letting the grieving Grandmother hold her granddaughter?  It really does nto matter what happened so many years ago, the last conection to her daughter was kept from her?  Please? That was vengeful and evil.  If he knew Anna so well he knew she did not make sound decisions.  The baby had a right to be given a chance with her only link to her Mother: regardless of past events, the chance should have been to make a better life for this child? Starting with forgiveness for what no one really knows for sure.

yes the Mother probably was neglectful and some kind of abuse in Anna's childhood or teen years but she does not deserve a life sentense of that nature anymore.  She is still the Grandmother!  That is the only relationship anyone knows for sure!  Please let our courts not play into any drama of 'star struck' for this baby's sake and find out the real parents and protect the baby from being a victim of that money that definately has a negative attachment to it.

Brit is a victim of her own choices for the most part.  She uses the media when she has a new CD to sell?  I do sympathize if there is another problem but I do not think it excuses her lact of priority toward her children.  That is what Kevin is doing making the children a priority.  Yes if her hormones are messed up she needs help and many things may not be all her fault.  I do not think the hormones are so intrusive to keep her from putting the children ahead of her parties or

running around the town?  She needs to grow up is my opinion and fast.  Of course get the treatment she needs but as we do not excuse any other mother who is not a star we also should not excuse those in the light when it envolves children being hurt or in possible harms way?  Children first means just that!  No matter who it is, what the do for money or fame, no one has a right to be excused of the obvious neglect and abuse the children suffer in a justification of any kind because the parent is famous?  Let the children have some peace from our hunger for gossip and pictures,  how does a baby feel while mourning a parent?  maybe the arms of her Grandmother could have helped that, maybe not but shouldn't the childs welfare came before a old anger of punishment by a obviously troubled daughter?  If the Grandmother shows any signs of being abusive or harming the child that would be much different but that did not show!  How lame: the mother mustr be the fault for so much?  Absolutely some but not all and not forever!

Brit made most of her money of young people or children: show some respect for that Brit while you get help to get back to what should be your number one priority: being a Mom!

To our Legal system please protect the small little girl from the same kind of troubles: do nto let any adult having custody of this child have control over money that only needs used to protect her fromt he same picture taking, enterviews and media gossiping that showed us what they wanted us to see: they make the news not report it !

That Judge: did you all see how pathetic our legal system can be?  He showed us true stupidity!

 
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March 7, 2007, 5:15 am PST

03/05 Anna and Britney: Behind the Headlines

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You can't blame Dr. Phil for jumping on the media blitz bandwagon. Obviously it's a very popular topic for television programs these last few weeks. However, I do blame him for contributing to the misinformation about lupus and grossly mischaracterizing the severity of this disease as "non-life-threatening".THAT is the real problem with this show. Doesn't matter if Anna Nichole had lupus or not, it matters that Dr. Phil got that part absolutely 100% wrong. People with lupus die every day **from lupus** in this country, due to kidney failure, infection, heart attack and stroke among other things that are directly caused by either lupus or it's treatment.And if he does get feedback from these boards, then he ought to respond and publicly correct himself on air.

One person said she had Lupus, it is not a fact, just was said.  With so much gossip over Anna, he is right to avoid it until it is known?  I seen Anna's movie about her life a few times years ago, she had much more contributing factors of negative in her life long before this news?

Lupus is a horrible desease, so is the over prescribed drugs by doctors  that contributes to many deaths, addictions and children being harmed?

So many people speaking out as if the children are in soem kind of abstract?  Even the host of Entertainment Tonight beign as if a friend?  NO, he made money off Anna through giving us Gossip because it was just that. 

maybe Dr. Phil can do a show about Lupus, ask him, this show was about Anna and Brit and the children hurt in the media mess of famous people.

 
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March 7, 2007, 5:44 am PST

03/05 Anna and Britney: Behind the Headlines

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I know this is non of my business. But when I heard about her death a huge red flag has gone up, and it has stayed up. Forget about lifestyle and paparazzii, its the 105 temp that got me. I've raised 4 kids, and would panic at 104. But I always understood that 105 was 'always' serious and dangerous. First thing I thought was meningitis. Second thing was, why did they not take her to a hospital. How can someone with a nurses training not say this is an emergency. Its as if she was in a car wreck and mortally hurt but conscious enough to say "I don't want to go to hospital", so they just let her die?? I don't understand this. Its almost an 'oooops, she died, oh, thats too bad, tsk tsk, we are so heartbroken" I hope you explore the temp part. Unless this was chronic and they were used to dealing with it, and knew exactly the cause, there was horrific neglect here. If she were a child they would have been charged with neglect. Wouldn't she have been delirious, maybe even seizing, possibly terrifyingly cold and in pain? Isn't there a very very real possibility of brain damage especially for an adult, with a temp that high even for a short while. If they didn't honestly 'know' the cause, as a trained nurse, why didn't she think, yes we have the fever down, but the cause of the fever would still be present? A flu that can cause that kind of fever would have serious side affects taking place I think. It just doesn't ring right!
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March 7, 2007, 5:48 am PST

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i honestly don't think Dr Phil meant no disrespect to LUPUS in any way, i also don't think the show was directed to whether or not it could be fatal, but i do think that this show was more about getting the message out that if you see someone having problems of any kind, dont wait for a picture of death one can sell for millions, GET THAT PERSON TO A DAMN HOSPITAL EVEN IF IT MEANS TO CARRY THEM OVER YOUR SHOULDER TO GET THEM THERE!!! seems a picture of a happy and healthy face would be worth more than all the money in the world, dont you?
 
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March 7, 2007, 6:40 am PST

Britney Spears

I realize that I can't comprehend the amount of pressure that Britney Spears is under, but much of it is caused by choices.  I do have an opinion on one thing.  Rehab is a gift not to be taken lightly, and I am offended that she is allowed to call all the shots with this rehab center. Checking in and out, then blocking off rooms, just because she can afford to, is simply indulging further bad behavior!  This is disruptive and disrespectful to the other individuals who are supposedly there for treatment and taking it seriously.  Rehab for celebrities seems to mean -place to hide away from the media and photographers, but should not be used this way, and I have no respect for a facility that would allow this for a price!

This little girl is definitely in trouble, but some of this is bad behavior is being indulged.  She needs serious treatment, where she can't call the shots, and frankly I think she is screaming out for help!  Who do you trust, when you have a bunch of yes people around you giving you lip service? Her most recent behavior indicates rebellion, and she needs some real professional help that she can't control and manipulate!  Dr Phil, you should start a therapy center for celebrities - there is certainly a need.

 
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March 7, 2007, 6:46 am PST

No need to feel for Anna now

There really is no need to feel sorry for Anna.  She's gone.  She is finally laid to rest.  I don't feel sorry for anyone but Dannylyn now.  I have watched Anna from her marriage to Mr Marshall to the reality shows and up until now.  The person I see with her consistently is Howard Stern.  Ask yourself why?  I think the man has been in love with Anna since day one.  He's always been there beside her.  He's had to take the back seat through their whole relationship letting Anna do pretty much whatever she wanted.  Including having boyfriends and girlfriends.  Why did she never marry again?  Because if she was married she was tied to one man who undoubtly could not handle her celebrity and need for attention.   Howard was the only one willing to share her in order to be with her.  Maybe that was Anna's stipulation.  You ask if he's such a good person why didn't he get her help?  Exactly the reason no one could.  Anna did what she wanted when she wanted.  Even when she seemed out of control you knew she was the one who controlled.  I think no one knew her better than Howard.  You should give him credit for standing by  her.   It is clear to know the reason she died.  She never recovered from Danny's death.  Her son was her true love.    She couldn't accept his death.   And who knows what was going on with her, maybe she blamed herself for his death.  Nevertheless, it was such  great loss to her she lost interest in her own life.  She died of a broken heart.   I truly hope Howard is the father of Dannylyn.   I certainly hope Larry is not.   Larry is an opportunist.    I believe Howard has been misunderstood in this whole situation and is seen as the bad guy because he was the only other person consistently present in this family.   He was the protector who would do what he had to do to shield Anna.    I'm not saying it was right, I'm just saying that's the way it was.    I'm sorry for his loss.   Rest in Peace Anna.
 
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March 7, 2007, 6:56 am PST

Lupus

I think Dr. Phil did say Lupus can become very serious to the individual.  But I agree he did say it was not death threatening when in fact I believe it is when it reaches a certain level.  I had a friend who suffered with Lupus and died in her 50's several years ago.   I also have another friend who's sister has been diagnosed with Lupus since she was a little girl who is now reaching age of 40 and has not had any complications from it.  I believe Dr. Phil's message was that Lupus is not something you get and then always die from.   

 
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