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Topic : 03/05 Anna and Britney: Behind the Headlines

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Created on : Friday, March 02, 2007, 12:00:40 pm
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Two Hollywood stars, two incredible sagas that have captivated the nation. Dr. Phil takes you inside the drama surrounding Anna Nicole Smith and Britney Spears. Anna Nicole’s story is one of the most bizarre celebrity cases with unbelievable twists and turns: a beautiful but troubled model, a headline-grabbing pregnancy, the shocking death of her beloved son … culminating in the actress’s untimely demise. Pat O’Brien, host of The Insider, has known Anna Nicole for eight years and shares what it was like spending time with her during her last days. Next up, Alex Goen, CEO of Trimspa, weighs in on the death of his company’s spokesperson. Then, some argue that Britney Spears’ recent behavior—leaving rehab after one day, shaving her head bald, and angrily brandishing an umbrella—indicates that the pop star is in a tragic downward spiral. Frank Griffin, a celebrity photographer, has captured Britney’s public pain through his lens. Are the paparazzi partially responsible for driving this young star to the brink?  Talk about the show here.

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March 8, 2007, 2:44 pm PST

03/05 Anna and Britney: Behind the Headlines

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We are not on the same page. I thought the author went to extremes to enjoy describing her breasts. I also thought the article made fun of the public's fascination with her breasts more than he was making fun of the actual breasts.
I disagree with you - I believe you seemed to mis his transparent sarcasm - he mocked them and those who enjoyed the voyeurism of them - he mocked the same things you are against: the fact that her identity was her breasts - it was her one note fame. He was just as mocking of them as you are of my criticism (like his and others). Frankly we disagree only on methodology, not philosophy. I do not agree with the grassroots venue you espouse. You disagree with my concept that open evaluation and criticism of why these types make up such a segment of our culture and media should be not be brought up for attention and dialogue.
 
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March 8, 2007, 2:47 pm PST

03/05 Anna and Britney: Behind the Headlines

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We are not on the same page. I thought the author went to extremes to enjoy describing her breasts. I also thought the article made fun of the public's fascination with her breasts more than he was making fun of the actual breasts.
" I also thought the article made fun of the public's fascination with her breasts more than he was making fun of the actual breasts." - WE AGREE IN PART - I BELIEVE HE MADE FUN OF BOTH THE BREASTS AND THE PUBLIC'S REACTION TO THEM.
 
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March 8, 2007, 2:58 pm PST

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Yes, it's called a "roast" and I believe celebs or politicians do it all the time :)
I agree - the author of the Economist obit was roasting A-N and the public and not paying homage to her breasts.
 
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March 8, 2007, 3:01 pm PST

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And the truth is, of all the cases the Supreme Court is asked to hear in a year they only take the ones with the most potential impact on US law.  If this elected to hear this case there must have been merit to it.

I think the Supreme Court in this case was forced to take (not an elective decision as you imply) the case b/c it had to do with jurisdiction of the lawsuits between probate court and federal court. Of note one of the judges concluded after having to give down the favorable judgment for A-N's case - that it was probably time to aly to rest the probate rule. So maybe a few mroe worthy cases will benefit.

 
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March 8, 2007, 4:03 pm PST

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I disagree with you - I believe you seemed to mis his transparent sarcasm - he mocked them and those who enjoyed the voyeurism of them - he mocked the same things you are against: the fact that her identity was her breasts - it was her one note fame. He was just as mocking of them as you are of my criticism (like his and others). Frankly we disagree only on methodology, not philosophy. I do not agree with the grassroots venue you espouse. You disagree with my concept that open evaluation and criticism of why these types make up such a segment of our culture and media should be not be brought up for attention and dialogue.

You disagree with my concept that open evaluation and criticism of why these types make up such a segment of our culture and media should be not be brought up for attention and dialogue.

 

....because I think it is very simple. Men like boobs. They like big boobs. They like women who are willing to flaunt their big boobs. Not all men, but enough to make it worthwhile for some women to use this for personal and monetary gain. It is true now, it has been true throughout the ages, and I think it will be true for quite some time. No amount of public discourse on the subject, no matter how high brow or intellectual, will give it any deeper meaning than that.

 

The other part of the equation is that people, in general, enjoy gossip and voyeurism. We stare at car accidents and we put people up on pedestals for the distinct purpose of ripping them down. It is an ugly side of human nature to be sure....but I don't think it is a great mystery. So, no, I don't think an open evaluation, especially one that includes trying to figure out the specifics of a dead celebrity's sex life, does anything to improve our culture.

 

I do not share your personal animosity toward Anna Nicole. I think she is a sad, tragic figure. I think the lesson to be learned is that money, looks, and the fake adulation that she sought does NOT buy real happiness.

 
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March 8, 2007, 4:43 pm PST

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You disagree with my concept that open evaluation and criticism of why these types make up such a segment of our culture and media should be not be brought up for attention and dialogue.

 

....because I think it is very simple. Men like boobs. They like big boobs. They like women who are willing to flaunt their big boobs. Not all men, but enough to make it worthwhile for some women to use this for personal and monetary gain. It is true now, it has been true throughout the ages, and I think it will be true for quite some time. No amount of public discourse on the subject, no matter how high brow or intellectual, will give it any deeper meaning than that.

 

The other part of the equation is that people, in general, enjoy gossip and voyeurism. We stare at car accidents and we put people up on pedestals for the distinct purpose of ripping them down. It is an ugly side of human nature to be sure....but I don't think it is a great mystery. So, no, I don't think an open evaluation, especially one that includes trying to figure out the specifics of a dead celebrity's sex life, does anything to improve our culture.

 

I do not share your personal animosity toward Anna Nicole. I think she is a sad, tragic figure. I think the lesson to be learned is that money, looks, and the fake adulation that she sought does NOT buy real happiness.

" I think the lesson to be learned is that money, looks, and the fake adulation that she sought does NOT buy real happiness." - We are in total agreement on this and lets leave it at that.
 
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March 8, 2007, 4:50 pm PST

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You disagree with my concept that open evaluation and criticism of why these types make up such a segment of our culture and media should be not be brought up for attention and dialogue.

 

....because I think it is very simple. Men like boobs. They like big boobs. They like women who are willing to flaunt their big boobs. Not all men, but enough to make it worthwhile for some women to use this for personal and monetary gain. It is true now, it has been true throughout the ages, and I think it will be true for quite some time. No amount of public discourse on the subject, no matter how high brow or intellectual, will give it any deeper meaning than that.

 

The other part of the equation is that people, in general, enjoy gossip and voyeurism. We stare at car accidents and we put people up on pedestals for the distinct purpose of ripping them down. It is an ugly side of human nature to be sure....but I don't think it is a great mystery. So, no, I don't think an open evaluation, especially one that includes trying to figure out the specifics of a dead celebrity's sex life, does anything to improve our culture.

 

I do not share your personal animosity toward Anna Nicole. I think she is a sad, tragic figure. I think the lesson to be learned is that money, looks, and the fake adulation that she sought does NOT buy real happiness.

My concept of open evaluation and dialogue of this matter did not focus on at any time her sex life. It did include why she managed to capture the attention of the American public, what damages she did as a consequence of that and I believe I have an answer to that similar to the one you outlined  But unlike you I see her as the conscious resolution of her own choices - and their consequences - and that includes her value system (or lack thereof)- and I personally see no room for pity in that for her as you seem to do. She made her choices and she repeatedly emphasized her choices with her actions and she chose her consequences at the same time.I do not view her life and choices with as benign a view as you do. We just have to leave that as our differences.
 
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March 8, 2007, 6:39 pm PST

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I am loving your post. Thank You.

i am a little late, but you are welcome... i see she changed the picture at least!

 
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March 8, 2007, 9:47 pm PST

Just my opinion, that's all

I keep reading how Larry Birkhead is just trying to get the baby for the money.  He has been trying to get a paternity test since the baby was born in September.  This was months before Anna Nicole's death.  He wasn't in it for the money, he just wanted a paternity test to show that he was the father, since Anna Nicole told him he was.   I think she slept around with enough men that no wonder there are so many claims that they are the father, but I still think Larry Birkhead is the father.  No one else was wanting the baby at the beginning, just him.  I think Stern might have had something to do with their deaths.  Seems so very, very, very suspicious that they are both dead now.  I think all this fuss is such nonsense.  She was a drunk, and a drug abuser, and I can't believe she didn't get her son taken away sooner.  If she wasn't who she was, he probably would of been taken away.  Plus, she was constantly high after the baby's birth, and since I didn't even know she was pregnant to begin with, all the times I saw her, she was drunk and high.  I'm surprised the baby doesn't have alcohol fetal syndrome and is a drug addict herself.  Poor thing.  The only good thing I could say about her is that she loved her children.  You could see it in her eyes and face.  But that is the only good thing I can say about her, even in death.  I watched her reality show, on accident one time when I was flipping through channels during a commercial, and first of all, I couldn't believe they even had a show about her.  Why?  What was it about?  She wasn't doing anything except showing what an ugly and shallow personality she had.  She was unsufferable.  I feel sorry for her in that nobody forced her into rehab where she belonged.  If I was her friend, I would of had an intervention and put her into rehab for her own good.  Don't know how long it would of lasted, maybe it would of, maybe not, but that's what happens when you are in that kind of life style.  They all boo hoo when the person is dead, but they won't do anything about it before hand.  Everyone in the Hollywood business enables drug and alcohol abuse, then turn their backs when the problem with their stars get out of hand, and then they all cry at their funerals.  What a sad, sad world to be in.  What I don't understand is, if drugs are illegal, why are the stars not being arrested and getting prison time like ordinary people are?  Who cares if they have money.  Justice should be equal no matter who you are.  Anna Nicole is happy now.  Perhaps she had a death wish.   I heard from one of the nanny's suing her for not letting her feed the baby properly, said that she tried to kill herself twice before.  Perhaps Stern took advantage of this.  Two drug users?  Two accidental deaths?  Pretty hard to prove otherwise, so he could of gotten away with two counts of murder.  No matter what anyone says, I think Stern killed the both of them so he could get his hands on the dough, and the little girl would either die in the future, or he would embezzle the money so that by the time she was old enough to get it, it would be gone.  It's happened before.  Well, R.I.P. Miss Smith.  You probably aren't in heaven, though, since you weren't a nice person in your lifetime and you only married your husband for his money, but you are at peace, and that is probably the only thing you wanted in your life (except for the money you were suppose to inherit until your dreaded son in law stopped you from getting it.)

 
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March 9, 2007, 4:48 am PST

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I do not have Lupus - never said I did. I have said that I have anti-phopholipid antibodies another auto-immune disorder which possibly a subset of Lupus and is a definite disease of Connective Tissue Disorders like Lupus. My only manifestation so far has been miscarriages and a premature delivery. So no I do not need more than - and rarely get more than 5-6 hours of sleep and meditation and daily exercise (sometimes yoga)  helps me a lot.  I hope your interst wsa genuinely and I answered you in a genuine way.
i have lupus and i get about 6 hrs of sleep.. everyones sleep is different.  it's a chronic disease and can be asociated with chronic fatigue syndrome too, which is where u feel tired all the tiome and cant sleep, ache all over.   fibromyalgia is about the same thing--hurt all over and tired all the time,  with all this can lead to depression too.  meds have al ot to play in all the scheme of things too
 
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