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Topic : 03/06 To Be a Child Star

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Created on : Friday, March 02, 2007, 12:02:03 pm
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Thousands of kids hope to make it big in Hollywood every year – from dancing, to modeling, to singing, to acting. Many parents sacrifice a lot of money and time to see them realize their dreams, sometimes to the detriment of the rest of the family. But are the sacrifices worth it? Dr. Phil’s first guest, Lisa, says they are. She is dying to get her 13-year-old daughter, Brittany, in the limelight, and is willing to help her daughter reach her goals “at any cost.” Lisa’s twin sister, Katina, and her mother, Veronica, think Lisa is pushing Brittany too hard, and is trying to live her own dreams through her daughter since Lisa never made it as a child star. Then, meet a couple who says they are raising the next headliner: their 11-year-old daughter, Mary Sarah. But are they leaving their other children behind? One of their kids moved out of the house just to make a point! How can they find balance in their family and still help their star-in-the-making? Next, why one mother’s victory over breast cancer inspired her to do anything to make her 13-year-old daughter, Briana, a country music sensation. But is it putting Briana’s health at risk? And does she have a chance? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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March 2, 2007, 5:32 pm CST

O, I've got an idea........

Why not just let the kids be kids and parents start parenting and paying attention to all the kids in the home instead of playing favoritsm! If these kids really want to be a star, they can start by auditioning for school plays. musicals, whatever, nothing wrong with starting at the beginning, they can grow and mature and decide on their own what they want to with their lives, they can go to college and study and actually earn their way in this life. I would never wish  hollywood on my kids. Whatever happened to encouraging our kids to use their imaginations, playing dress up, taking piano lessons, trying out for the cheerleading team, playing in the dirt, going tot he park, hanging out with friends, pajama parties? whatever people! Let your kids enjoy their childhood, they grow up too fast as it is, why rush em? O yea, gotta be a star and make the bucks and get famous so every one can coo over your child..................................BLAHHHHHHHHHHhhh better be careful, mom and dad's , your dreams for your kids could ruin them amd then what?????
 
March 2, 2007, 7:13 pm CST

What disturbs me is...

Quote From: jettav

Why not just let the kids be kids and parents start parenting and paying attention to all the kids in the home instead of playing favoritsm! If these kids really want to be a star, they can start by auditioning for school plays. musicals, whatever, nothing wrong with starting at the beginning, they can grow and mature and decide on their own what they want to with their lives, they can go to college and study and actually earn their way in this life. I would never wish  hollywood on my kids. Whatever happened to encouraging our kids to use their imaginations, playing dress up, taking piano lessons, trying out for the cheerleading team, playing in the dirt, going tot he park, hanging out with friends, pajama parties? whatever people! Let your kids enjoy their childhood, they grow up too fast as it is, why rush em? O yea, gotta be a star and make the bucks and get famous so every one can coo over your child..................................BLAHHHHHHHHHHhhh better be careful, mom and dad's , your dreams for your kids could ruin them amd then what?????
What disturbs me is that the adults are as delusional as their kids.  Everyone wants to be famous when they're like, 5.  Then you grow up and realize being famous is really hard work, your life is under a microscope 24/7, you have to work on your "talent" continuously, and no one leaves you alone.  Some of these kids are nothing more than spoiled brats who the parents dote on above the other kids.  Child stars are like kittens, they grow up and some aren't so cute when they hit puberty.  Then they're just washed up college students-go figure!
 
March 2, 2007, 11:22 pm CST

03/06 To Be a Child Star

Quote From: jettav

Why not just let the kids be kids and parents start parenting and paying attention to all the kids in the home instead of playing favoritsm! If these kids really want to be a star, they can start by auditioning for school plays. musicals, whatever, nothing wrong with starting at the beginning, they can grow and mature and decide on their own what they want to with their lives, they can go to college and study and actually earn their way in this life. I would never wish  hollywood on my kids. Whatever happened to encouraging our kids to use their imaginations, playing dress up, taking piano lessons, trying out for the cheerleading team, playing in the dirt, going tot he park, hanging out with friends, pajama parties? whatever people! Let your kids enjoy their childhood, they grow up too fast as it is, why rush em? O yea, gotta be a star and make the bucks and get famous so every one can coo over your child..................................BLAHHHHHHHHHHhhh better be careful, mom and dad's , your dreams for your kids could ruin them amd then what?????
 Well sometimes people forget that a child has aspirations to and needs a parent to back them up. I wanted to be an actor forever but at thirteen I started working hard. However without my mom I wouldn't make it. There are too many crushing auditions when you work hard and don't make it. You need your parents there to support you and keep you going, most times to push you as well. Acting is just like a sport you need a coach that is sometimes willing to go past the limit to make you the best there is. Those are the only people who win CIF and those are the actors that make it on Broadway. And a lot of the time when they start without help it's to late to make it. It would suprise you how long it takes to make it, there are two ways for it to be done a lot of auditioning and time, or the more promoted way luck.
 
March 4, 2007, 10:14 am CST

03/06 To Be a Child Star

i would think nothing wrong being done for a parent to make a childs dream come true, as long as its the CHILDS DREAM AND NOT THE PARENTS WISH!! and as long as other children in that family are not being placed in the back seat to watch ones dream come true while thears was lost and forgotten!!!
 
March 4, 2007, 2:59 pm CST

Definitely!

Quote From: gwarrior6

What disturbs me is that the adults are as delusional as their kids.  Everyone wants to be famous when they're like, 5.  Then you grow up and realize being famous is really hard work, your life is under a microscope 24/7, you have to work on your "talent" continuously, and no one leaves you alone.  Some of these kids are nothing more than spoiled brats who the parents dote on above the other kids.  Child stars are like kittens, they grow up and some aren't so cute when they hit puberty.  Then they're just washed up college students-go figure!

The delusion is that every one of these "stage parent" adults thinks that their little darling is going to be the next Hilary Duff, Miley Cyrus, Zac Efron, or, in the athletic realms, Tara Lipinski or Tiger Woods. The reality, is the chances of "making it" are somewhere between slim and none, even if the child does have the talent. As jetta said, why not let the kids be kids, certainly the adults can support them by providing appropriate enrichment. Then when the child is mature enough to start planning his or her own future, a more informed decision can be made as to whether to pursue such a career, and the child can be aware of both the tremendous dedication required to "make it" and the potential pitfalls that await.

 

Re your last 2 sentences, you're right, the landscape is littered with screwed-up, washed-up former child stars...didn't Danny Bonaduce ("Danny Partridge," 1970-74) appear on Dr. Phil a while back (I'm showing my age...LOL)?

 
March 4, 2007, 3:13 pm CST

Not Exactly a "Child"

Quote From: broadway_bound

 Well sometimes people forget that a child has aspirations to and needs a parent to back them up. I wanted to be an actor forever but at thirteen I started working hard. However without my mom I wouldn't make it. There are too many crushing auditions when you work hard and don't make it. You need your parents there to support you and keep you going, most times to push you as well. Acting is just like a sport you need a coach that is sometimes willing to go past the limit to make you the best there is. Those are the only people who win CIF and those are the actors that make it on Broadway. And a lot of the time when they start without help it's to late to make it. It would suprise you how long it takes to make it, there are two ways for it to be done a lot of auditioning and time, or the more promoted way luck.

By 13, I'd say you would have some realistic idea as to what's going on and what it really takes to get there. I'd say you yourself would have to have a strong ego to handle the near-constant rejection. There is a difference between an adolescent making a semi-informed decision and asking for parental affirmation & support and someone who has been pushed by "stage parents" since they were pre-adolescent. Not having seen the show yet, I can only guess, but this installment may deal more with the latter.

 

In HS, I knew 1 or 2 who had major stage aspirations as you seem to; however, I have no idea what happened to them. BTW, what is "CIF"? Best of luck to you.

 
March 4, 2007, 6:28 pm CST

mmkay. this is confusing.

I'm really confused why parents force their kids to live their (the parents') dreams. let them decide what they want to do, (with limits of course), although it is important to make your children be involved in some sort of activity to keep them out of trouble, I'm sure these parents have the right intention, but are just going about it the wrong way. Dr.Phil knows what to do.

 

peace.

Sarah Kathleen Cecilia.

 
March 4, 2007, 6:53 pm CST

Oscars and Covert Abuse of Child Stars

DR. PHIL, PLEASE - take this a step further on just how far a stage mother like Dakota Fanning's mother "Joy" sacrficed her daughter in the hopes of her little girl Dakota getting an Oscar nomination.  "It's a gritty perfomance that may just earn Dakota an Oscar".  Remember - Dakota as the little darling in "Charlette's Web"?  She is 12 years old now and just completed the movie "Hounddog".  In the movie the character gets raped by a grown man.  Dakota slips on a body suit while she "acts" like she is being raped by this grown man.  Her mother and manager thinks this ok because they are on the set, and she has a body suit on during the rape scene.  Dakota also runs around appearingly naked or clad only in underpants.  Dakota defended the actions of her mother saying they are "friends" and she totally trusts her mother's decisions regarding her career.  Please anyone reading this!!!  The only way to stop this is, is with the almighty dollar.  DO NOT PAY to see this movie!  Boycott the theater, Boycott next years Oscars.  In America we have free speach.  We have the choice to read what we want, write what we want.  We also have the right to choose not to put money into the pockets of people who produce and direct small children in basically soft porn films, and call it acting.  Imagine what frame of mind that little girl had to get into to ACT like she was being raped.  Did the other actor who was acting like he was raping her, grind himself into her body suit?  That poor child.  She will never have her innocence back.  The sad thing is that this desensitizes a person so much, you are just setting them up to be abused later in life.  Hollywood would not use children like this, if we did not pay to go see it.  Think of all the pedofiles and perverts who will now be able to walk into a general public theater, and be able to get their jollies all for 8.00 a look.  Don't support the abuse of this child, and the others like her.
 
March 4, 2007, 10:25 pm CST

hey

Quote From: bactphd95

The delusion is that every one of these "stage parent" adults thinks that their little darling is going to be the next Hilary Duff, Miley Cyrus, Zac Efron, or, in the athletic realms, Tara Lipinski or Tiger Woods. The reality, is the chances of "making it" are somewhere between slim and none, even if the child does have the talent. As jetta said, why not let the kids be kids, certainly the adults can support them by providing appropriate enrichment. Then when the child is mature enough to start planning his or her own future, a more informed decision can be made as to whether to pursue such a career, and the child can be aware of both the tremendous dedication required to "make it" and the potential pitfalls that await.

 

Re your last 2 sentences, you're right, the landscape is littered with screwed-up, washed-up former child stars...didn't Danny Bonaduce ("Danny Partridge," 1970-74) appear on Dr. Phil a while back (I'm showing my age...LOL)?

yes he appeared on the show couple months back
 
March 4, 2007, 11:40 pm CST

03/06 To Be a Child Star

 Anyone wishing to see how the majority of us live our lives then please come read and/or ask questions. Also other parents needing support and or guidance in the world of acting join us here:  http://forums.delphiforums.com/proactors          

 To have us on Dr. Phil would be boring. We lead normal everyday lives. Sports, school plays, play dates, holidays, youth groups... When most go to little league we head to an audition, or set. My Child's money has not been spent on frivolous cars, trips, or pedicures. To even think about that makes me laugh.  Sure you have some weird parents that dream unrealistic, or spend all the money, or spend money they don't have. But you have parents that do that in all walks of life.  

Please do not lump all of us in the same boat.

Because of acting my child has even been given the chance to help with more charities. She gives back. She knows she is blessed, and is very grateful. She has also been blessed to work with some extremely bright talented adults. For this I am grateful. Oh and her resume will help get into her choice college. 

Thank-you for letting me show my side a little.

A Mom

 
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