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Thousands of kids hope to make it big in Hollywood every year – from dancing, to modeling, to singing, to acting. Many parents sacrifice a lot of money and time to see them realize their dreams, sometimes to the detriment of the rest of the family. But are the sacrifices worth it? Dr. Phil’s first guest, Lisa, says they are. She is dying to get her 13-year-old daughter, Brittany, in the limelight, and is willing to help her daughter reach her goals “at any cost.” Lisa’s twin sister, Katina, and her mother, Veronica, think Lisa is pushing Brittany too hard, and is trying to live her own dreams through her daughter since Lisa never made it as a child star. Then, meet a couple who says they are raising the next headliner: their 11-year-old daughter, Mary Sarah. But are they leaving their other children behind? One of their kids moved out of the house just to make a point! How can they find balance in their family and still help their star-in-the-making? Next, why one mother’s victory over breast cancer inspired her to do anything to make her 13-year-old daughter, Briana, a country music sensation. But is it putting Briana’s health at risk? And does she have a chance? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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March 7, 2007, 10:26 am PST

03/06 To Be a Child Star

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DR. PHIL, PLEASE - take this a step further on just how far a stage mother like Dakota Fanning's mother "Joy" sacrficed her daughter in the hopes of her little girl Dakota getting an Oscar nomination.  "It's a gritty perfomance that may just earn Dakota an Oscar".  Remember - Dakota as the little darling in "Charlette's Web"?  She is 12 years old now and just completed the movie "Hounddog".  In the movie the character gets raped by a grown man.  Dakota slips on a body suit while she "acts" like she is being raped by this grown man.  Her mother and manager thinks this ok because they are on the set, and she has a body suit on during the rape scene.  Dakota also runs around appearingly naked or clad only in underpants.  Dakota defended the actions of her mother saying they are "friends" and she totally trusts her mother's decisions regarding her career.  Please anyone reading this!!!  The only way to stop this is, is with the almighty dollar.  DO NOT PAY to see this movie!  Boycott the theater, Boycott next years Oscars.  In America we have free speach.  We have the choice to read what we want, write what we want.  We also have the right to choose not to put money into the pockets of people who produce and direct small children in basically soft porn films, and call it acting.  Imagine what frame of mind that little girl had to get into to ACT like she was being raped.  Did the other actor who was acting like he was raping her, grind himself into her body suit?  That poor child.  She will never have her innocence back.  The sad thing is that this desensitizes a person so much, you are just setting them up to be abused later in life.  Hollywood would not use children like this, if we did not pay to go see it.  Think of all the pedofiles and perverts who will now be able to walk into a general public theater, and be able to get their jollies all for 8.00 a look.  Don't support the abuse of this child, and the others like her.

I'm angry that Dakota's mother would put her in that position. I lay alot of blame on Deborah Kampmeier the producer/director of the film. The director seems to have a fascination of child/teen rape. Her first film "Virgin" she glorified a 15 year old being drugged with roofies then raped. Without the teen's knowledge she thought she had an immaculate conception. Thats what's disturbing about Hollywood.People like her and Victor Salva (a convicted paedo from powder and Jeeper Creepers fame) will hide behind artistic license. It should be time for someone blackball these two and others like them from working.

 

I'm for the 1st admendment upto a certain point. when it comes to softcore child porn or grooming techniques in films. Thats where I draw the line.

 
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March 7, 2007, 10:29 am PST

03/06 To Be a Child Star

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DR. PHIL, PLEASE - take this a step further on just how far a stage mother like Dakota Fanning's mother "Joy" sacrficed her daughter in the hopes of her little girl Dakota getting an Oscar nomination.  "It's a gritty perfomance that may just earn Dakota an Oscar".  Remember - Dakota as the little darling in "Charlette's Web"?  She is 12 years old now and just completed the movie "Hounddog".  In the movie the character gets raped by a grown man.  Dakota slips on a body suit while she "acts" like she is being raped by this grown man.  Her mother and manager thinks this ok because they are on the set, and she has a body suit on during the rape scene.  Dakota also runs around appearingly naked or clad only in underpants.  Dakota defended the actions of her mother saying they are "friends" and she totally trusts her mother's decisions regarding her career.  Please anyone reading this!!!  The only way to stop this is, is with the almighty dollar.  DO NOT PAY to see this movie!  Boycott the theater, Boycott next years Oscars.  In America we have free speach.  We have the choice to read what we want, write what we want.  We also have the right to choose not to put money into the pockets of people who produce and direct small children in basically soft porn films, and call it acting.  Imagine what frame of mind that little girl had to get into to ACT like she was being raped.  Did the other actor who was acting like he was raping her, grind himself into her body suit?  That poor child.  She will never have her innocence back.  The sad thing is that this desensitizes a person so much, you are just setting them up to be abused later in life.  Hollywood would not use children like this, if we did not pay to go see it.  Think of all the pedofiles and perverts who will now be able to walk into a general public theater, and be able to get their jollies all for 8.00 a look.  Don't support the abuse of this child, and the others like her.
I'm with you...I won't pay to see this movie in anyway...That's not necessary, even if they want to tell the story that kind of acting is not needed.
 
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March 7, 2007, 12:14 pm PST

How would you handle it?

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I have a six-year-old child who has all the right looks to be the next Dakota Fanning or Abigail Breslin.  She has the eyes of Anne Hathaway and beautiful golden locks.  She could become the next "it" girl.  Here's the problem; I don't want her there.  I'm not interested in making my child a dancing monkey for the masses.  Here's the OTHER problem; my relatives are getting on my nerves.  They talk about how she should be a model, how she should be in those horrid glitz pageants, and they do it in front of my beautiful (but tomboy-ish) nine-year-old.  Then they add that lame line, "Oh, and you're pretty too!"  I just want to slug them. 

 

How do I get these meddlesome relatives to stop making these comments when they think they're helping?  I've steered away from the discussions and tactfully changed the subject before it becomes what I know it's about to become, but it makes me mad they don't realize that saying these things in front of my equally talented and equally beautiful fourth grader is hurtful.  My mom used to make the same comments about my cousin, how pretty she was, how she belonged in pageants, etc.  It made me feel like crap.  She NEVER said anything nice about me.  I felt like a huge disappointment.  I wouldn't do that to one of my kids for all the world.  So, should I just be a rude b*tch and tell these relatives to "butt out" when they think they're being nice?  How would you handle it?

Well you yourself have said you know they are trying to be nice. This seems to hurt you due to what happened to you as a child. So have some backbone and tactfully say to them you believe brains are more important than beauty. Tell them you are pleased she she has both but prefer not to focus on the outer beauty.

Tell them your feelings on pageants.  Oh and I feel pageants are BAD.

 

Please everyone do not lump pageants in with ligit acting. Also most child modeling schools/classes are NOT legit.

 

Please everyone if you feel acting is not for your family, then great. But it is right for mine. My child goes to a college prep/art school make A's and B's. IS going to college. She is down to earth, sweet, plays sports, does local work, charity work and huge movies too. She has a trust fund as well. No one in our family or her friends treat her any different than anyone else. She wouldn't have it any other way.  We do not nor will will use the word "Star". She has been a child working actor on and off for many years.

 
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March 7, 2007, 1:13 pm PST

God's plan??

I can guarantee that God does NOT care if that girl is a country music star as much as He cares about her character.  Is she kind, honest, respectful, not a gossip, etc.? Does she know or is she learning how to put others first so that when she is a parent she can put her desires second to the needs of her babies?  Or is she learning that her career is the center of her world, and then when someone else in her life needs her to put them first, she may not be able to do so?

 

How many stars do we need, anyway?  A few dozen at most. And how many adults of good character do we need? Millions!

 
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March 7, 2007, 2:05 pm PST

My 10 year old & 7 year old are in the business!!!!!!!!!!

We live in South Jersey and are up in NYC or Philly for audition about every week or two.  My kids love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  My son has been in an NBA Promo with Labron James, two national AMEX commericials, the pilot episode of Thirty Rock, his first movie, an independant film, Jack of Clubs as a principle character, and most recently, the two-week workshop for Shrek the Muical (which is set to debut in early 2008.  My daughter has been in two photo shoots, and an extra in the Jack of Clubs Movie.  WOW!!!!  THEY LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I think the difference between most stage moms and dads and myself and my husband is that it is all about the experience!  Yes, we have been on many audition that we have not been called back for.  When my kids get in front of a camera, their eyes dance!  It's about the fun!  My kids have been all over NYC!  They know what they like in time square, they have watched the ice skaters in the plaza, they have thier favorite places in little itlay!  They have seen ground zero and have as much understanding as a 10 and 7 year old can have about the whole disaster. Heck, we even have a favorite sushi place on 39th and the avenue of the americas!  While my son was in rehearsal last week, my daughter and I went to the largest build-a-bear in the world on 5th avenue(we had a gift certificate) and walked over to watch the ice skater!

 

My kids are still in public school and are maintaining honor roll grades, my son is a black belt in tae kwon do, my daughter a yellow belt.  He has recently started guitar lessons and loves the blues, she has started piano and also in liking the blues.  They still have chores they have to do, etc.

 

We belived by giving our kids the experieces that they are having, we are opening thier minds up that there is a big beautiful world out there that they can and do fit into!  When they don't get choosen for something, well, we are still quit positive about at least you tried!  And the only failure in life is not trying!

 

If there comes a day that they do not want to do it anymore, well, we stop!

 

We have met some wonderful people in the business and have had and are having some great experiences!

 

Michelle

 
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March 7, 2007, 3:44 pm PST

IndianaLadyBug:

"the only failure in life is not trying"       

   So true, well sad. Where would we be if people only stayed close to home, or only gave to their local area, or didn't try to advance?   What's so wrong with wanting to advance, or better yourself?   Where would this world be if when given the chance to grown and move up we didn't?  I teach my child to strive to do better in life than just average.

One other thing, we too believe that acting has to be fun. When the day comes it isn't we are out of here. 

 
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March 7, 2007, 5:14 pm PST

thankyou!

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"the only failure in life is not trying"       

   So true, well sad. Where would we be if people only stayed close to home, or only gave to their local area, or didn't try to advance?   What's so wrong with wanting to advance, or better yourself?   Where would this world be if when given the chance to grown and move up we didn't?  I teach my child to strive to do better in life than just average.

One other thing, we too believe that acting has to be fun. When the day comes it isn't we are out of here. 

I am so glad that I am not the only parent wanting great things for our kids!  I absolutly believe in helping our kids reach for the best they can!!!! 

 

thanks!

 
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March 7, 2007, 5:32 pm PST

To Be a Child Star

  

      I believe that making a child a star at too young of an age is bad. It seems to be more of a problem with the parents. A child at such a young age may not know what they want to do with there life. They'll get older there interests may change and they'll likely find something else to be passionate about. I seems parents are pushing, and putting pressure on children to be stars. Can't parents just let children be children.

 
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March 7, 2007, 6:59 pm PST

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      I believe that making a child a star at too young of an age is bad. It seems to be more of a problem with the parents. A child at such a young age may not know what they want to do with there life. They'll get older there interests may change and they'll likely find something else to be passionate about. I seems parents are pushing, and putting pressure on children to be stars. Can't parents just let children be children.

Being an child actor isn't the same as being pushed to reach the stars. Yes, there are some crackpots out there but as usual this show only shows them, and not the normal people. My younger sister wanted to be an actress from age 6, she watched lots of movies and used to imitate, asked how she could be in them. She loves learning lines, getting different names and attending auditions. If there's a role she doesn't want to try for, or we don't want her to take, then she doesn't go for it. She doesn't go for much grown-up material, mostly stuff with other kids. They have great fun on the set. In her spare time she plays with her Lego and Barbies and loves reading. I don't feel left out as the non-acting child at all. It's my choice to not act, just like it's her choice to act. My parents and sister attend my basketball games. My parents help me with my homework, drive me to friends, they don't spend all their time with my sister going over lines with her. She gets some of their time, I get some of their time. They are just as proud of my achievements. Plus we've all benefited from the free/reduced travel to movie sets in amazing places, some family holidays like that we wouldn't have been able to take otherwise.
 
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March 7, 2007, 11:08 pm PST

Do it for love not fame

 My main concern with the show was that everything was geared toward "fame." Not one of the children mentioned how much they loved singing, acting, etc... it was all: "I know I am gonna be famous."  We as adult push this on our kids.  Everywhere they look from People Magazine to Entertainment Tonight it's all about celebrity and money.  The kids should be acting in school plays and enjoying themselves while developing their talents.  Then when the child is older if the talent  and the desire is still there, let them follow their passions and the parents can help them if asked.  But while they are young, stop wasting money on agents, etc... (some of the amounts those families spent were disgusting!) and save that for their college fund!  Hillary Swank grew up here in my town and as a youngster starred in school productions and the local theatre guild.  She probably learned more there than she would have hearing some agent tell her things because they wanted her money.  And parents get a life ... kids should be home having regular meals and doing homework at a desk.   Let them act or sing in talent shows if they want but don't let your family's lives revolve around one child's dreams.  It is so sad, that it isn't enough to have a child that loves to sing, draw, play basketball, etc... some people want to have a "star."  I read where 80 percent of kids drop out of sports around 12 years of age because that's when teams start emphasizing winning and choosing players for "select" teams.   Kids who previosly loved soccer or baseball give up feeling they aren't "good enough".  We should be emphasizing fun and fitness not success.  No wonder we have a nation of overweight youngsters.  We definately have our priorities wrong and our kids are paying for it!
 
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