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Dr. Phil’s guests are tired of being bullied and bossed around by their spouses. They say they are treated like personal assistants, and their lives have become an emotional roller coaster because of their partners' domineering ways. Jodi wants to confront her husband, Frank, who admits he’s a chauvinist. Frank says a woman’s role is to serve the husband, but Jodi says, “Not after today!” After 14 years of being at his beck and call, will Jodi be able to stand up to her husband and demand respect? Then, Ahnika wants her brother-in-law to get a backbone and finally stand up to her controlling sister! She says Sarissa walks all over her husband, Jason, and if she doesn’t change her domineering ways, he’s going to wise up and leave her. Sarissa says she’s forced to take control because her husband doesn’t know how to wear the pants in the family, but Jason says it’s easier to shut down than it is to fight. Can this couple find balance in their family roles? Tell us what you think!

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March 12, 2007, 1:19 pm PDT

03/09 Dominating Spouses

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Probably because the idea that a man should even give himself up for his wife would have been a radical enough concept for 1st cent. Judea & Rome. Although polygamy appeared to have fallen by the wayside by those times, a man could divorce his wife for nearly any reason (but I don't think the reverse was true). So to say that a husband and wife should "take care of each other" in plain language, as though men and women could possibly be equals, would have been anathema!  And, it took nearly 2 more millennia for much of civilized society to grasp the notion!

 

Am I the only Christian out there who has major issues with Pauline theology, particularly when it's misapplied to today's existence??

"Am I the only Christian out there who has major issues with Pauline theology, particularly when it's misapplied to today's existence??"

I know of one poster on these boards who is a Christian and VERY MUCH feels the same way you do. Her name is Marie and you can find her on the Faithful Friends board. :o) LOL
 
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March 13, 2007, 7:55 am PDT

Thanks, but...

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"Am I the only Christian out there who has major issues with Pauline theology, particularly when it's misapplied to today's existence??"

I know of one poster on these boards who is a Christian and VERY MUCH feels the same way you do. Her name is Marie and you can find her on the Faithful Friends board. :o) LOL

I could use some directions. First, Is "Marie" her username, and if not, what exactly is her username, so I know for whose posts I'm looking? Second, under what heading/subheading should I look for the "Faithful Friends" board (sometimes things aren't in the location you'd expect them to be)?

 

Thanks :-)

 
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March 13, 2007, 2:39 pm PDT

03/09 Dominating Spouses

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I could use some directions. First, Is "Marie" her username, and if not, what exactly is her username, so I know for whose posts I'm looking? Second, under what heading/subheading should I look for the "Faithful Friends" board (sometimes things aren't in the location you'd expect them to be)?

 

Thanks :-)

Click on the Message Boards icon above. Scroll down to where it reads "Beyond the Headlines" Click on "News and Current Events." When you get there, sort by popularity....Faithful Friends should be the first board.

 

I know I am not Penny, but I didn't think you would mind ;)

 
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March 15, 2007, 5:02 am PDT

Bullies

I have one of these too! I thought I had it bad, but I guess I have a bit more of a "backbone" than some of these poor ladies (and men). I've found that getting the backbone a little at a time is a bit less shocking to the bully. I still have a long way to go, but I'm hopeful that he will wake up and smell the coffee someday. He doesn't cheat, he doesn't beat, he's just a bully. He's a control freak. He likes to be the boss...orders everyone else around but doesn't help do the work. His belief is that he works 8 hours a day and brings home the paycheck, so that's all he should have to do. On occasion, he WILL do some dishes or something if it is absolutely necessary...but not without complaining that he shouldn't have to do it. Oh, and acts like he is the one who ALWAYS has to do it.

 

With my kids (we don't have any together) it's not so much WHAT he is trying to say, but HOW he's going about it that is the problem. He also has a tendancy to think that HIS opinion is the RIGHT way of thinking....LOL he's the dumbest smart guy I know! He has no interest in getting counselling, doesn't think we (or rather HE) needs it. He's still in the pre-marital mind-set of "yours and mine" rather than "ours". We've been married for 2 years, together for 6.5 years before we married.  He refuses to see that he should be fulfilling the role of the husband, but expects me to fulfill my role as a wife. I can't seem to get it through his head that women need to be treated well to respond. Treat me and my kids like crap, and I'm not to motivated to meet your wants and needs. Do I sound bitter? I'm turning into a Royal B****.

 

-Lisa G. :o)~

 
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March 16, 2007, 12:35 pm PDT

I saw a bit of myself in this show

 I see the rest of the world likely sees me as controlling and that bothers me - a lot.  What the world sees is that my husband can come across as the most giving, patient, a "do anything for his wife" kind of guy.  I appear to be calling all the shots and giving him nothing but orders.

What the world doesn't see is that he is a compulsive procrastinator.  He rarely completes a task unless he is pushed to.  I resent this.  I do all of our finances - not by choice - when I gave the task of paying our household bills he waited until we received final notices to pay them and when there wasn't enough money in our bank account to cover them he went to the bank and took out a loan behind my back.  The only reason I discovered this was that the bank made an error and took the loan payment out of the wrong account.

I don't want to be controlling, I want a partnership.  I've gotten resentful and it is pulling us apart.  He says he is willing to contribute his share - if I make him detailed "to do" lists.  I resent that his share is only what I tell him to do.  If I give up control and leave him to sink or swim he nearly always sinks, taking his family down with him.

How am I supposed relinquish my control if he won't take any of it on himself?
 
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March 17, 2007, 7:29 pm PDT

STOP judging

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Stop "waiting,' please. Are you in counseling? Is he? Are both of you together?

 

Divorce is the last answer. Fixing the problems in you, him, both of you should be first priority.

 

Be pro-active. Don't sit around watching your relationship deteriorate. Get help for you! It takes two to tangle and how we ALLOW others to treat us is at the core of the problem.

 

He does what he is allowed to do. You (all of us) teach others how to treat us (what we will accept, etc). Nobody is going to repect you until you respect yourself. How you feel about you is at the root of this problem.

 

I have been married 18 years to a wonderful man who has never, ever called me a name or said anything bad about me. We are the best of friends. I CHOSE this type of man after living with an abusive father. My sister chose a man much like my father...emotionally abusive. However, after a decade of being a 'victim," my sister fought back by leaving, getting couseling, insisting HE get counseling and then moving back and NOT tolerating any more bad behavior. That was FOUR YEARS ago that she moved back in with her husband. They have a super relationship today. IT CAN BE DONE!!!

 

You sound defeated. You should sound MOTIVATED for change. You CAN do this!!! Get working on it NOW!!!

You are assuming waaaaaay too much - and you have a good marriage - please don't preach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm in her same situation - married 28 long years - YES we tried couseling - many times - but he never realized until I filed for divorce that he was an abuser - but he isn't getting help!!

Dr. Phil says admitting the problem is the first step - but my husband hasn't taken the next and the next and the next step!!  He refers to our kids (to me) by vile names.  And asked how one of our sons learned to be an a-hole!!!  Gee, where do you thing he learned it?

By judging her and condemning her YOU are contributing to the abuse - women need to support each other - please think about this in the future!!

 
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March 19, 2007, 6:38 am PDT

why do i fall for the same guy

I seem to end up with the same guy everytime.  They start out loving and nice then turn into a real controlling man.  I want a man to treat me as an equal but it never ends up that way.  I am in a relationship with a man now that feels he works harder and i don't.  He is in construction and has no high school degree, me on the other hand have a college degree and teach.  The relationship started great but now i feel where is this going will he continue his ways when we marry.
 
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March 19, 2007, 10:20 am PDT

YEP!!!!!!

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I seem to end up with the same guy everytime.  They start out loving and nice then turn into a real controlling man.  I want a man to treat me as an equal but it never ends up that way.  I am in a relationship with a man now that feels he works harder and i don't.  He is in construction and has no high school degree, me on the other hand have a college degree and teach.  The relationship started great but now i feel where is this going will he continue his ways when we marry.
he isn't gonna change unless you  stand up for yourself and  "teach him how to treat you" if you don't and you marry, chances are, it will get worse. Use your brain and  don't do anything thatyou have doubts about, don't settle for less then you deserve.........
 
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March 19, 2007, 11:05 am PDT

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he isn't gonna change unless you  stand up for yourself and  "teach him how to treat you" if you don't and you marry, chances are, it will get worse. Use your brain and  don't do anything thatyou have doubts about, don't settle for less then you deserve.........
i think he is tring to push me away because he does not know how to handle someone who loves him in return.  He is always telling me that he he had it rough growing up.  His ex-wife cheated on him as for my ex cheated on me.  I think he trully loves me but doesn't know what to do  With the things that have happened to me in the past I will definintly wait and make sure this is the right one
 
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March 21, 2007, 9:31 am PDT

Lop sided marrage

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I am a wife and  mother and I expect to be treated with love, respect and dignity for I deserve it and any man (or woman) who mistreats their spouses do not deserve to be married. It's nice to have a husband come home to me and tell me that he loves and appreciates me for the things I do for the home and the family. I guarentee that if he came home just to degrade and manipulate me, I would not be the happy, loving and kind person that I am, I would have absolutely no desire to be a good wife to my husabnd and I certainly would not want to live with him. Love and honor is a part of marriage and those people who can't handle that, needs to get a grp on what true love and respect is.

Wives were not put on this earth to be slaves and mistreated and used and manipulated and husabnds were not put on this earth to be slave masters, Marriage is about TWO people being there for one another, loving, caring, sharing a life, and being on the same team, supporting one another by encouraging and helping one another in this life journey. I thank God for the wonderful husband that I have, he is my rock and encourager, and I am here for him as well. Man, We may make our share of mistakes, but it aint nothing like these people casue my husabnd and I love and respect each other, that's what it's about and if a coupl. spouse can't do this tehn really,t hey shouldn't be married.
As I'm reading your post, all I san say is "can I have a marriage like yours?" In my marriage I take care of the finances (my husband does pay half the bills), I don't let my husband have the check book because he has out of control spending habbits, and he doesn't have a problem with that. He just says "one last thing I have to worry about". Yet I look at things around my house and something isn't right. I don't have nice things, I don't need nice things, but how come my husband's farm is worth more that my house and everything in it? When My washing machine quit, I was afraid to ask my husband to buy a new one, he didn't care, but I knew that it would be taking away from his want list.
I work part time plus I take care of the house, the only thing he does around the house is bring in firewood. Thats it! Yet he has the nerve to complain that I never help him around the farm, which is not true, I help him every day durning haying season. I just ask him which one he would prefer, my help with chores every night, in which he gets done around 8:00, or eat dinner out of a box. I can't help him and make a home cooked meal at the same time. Did I mention that he works full time and makes 3x as much money as I do.
My marriage is a dictatorship and I hate it! I have threatened to leave on more than one occasion because he acts like Hitler, his way or the highway. Yet this is not an everyday thing. What should I do? I love him, but I won't tollerate his crap.
 
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