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Topic : 03/12 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 6

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Created on : Friday, March 09, 2007, 12:37:32 pm
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Four months have passed since Scott and Tara, John and Cherie, and Nic and Amanda moved out of The Dr. Phil House, armed with tools to save their crumbling marriages. One couple has curbed their fighting but now reveals an issue that the wife says is tearing them apart. Why did they keep it a secret from Dr. Phil? Then, a couple learning to work together sees the changes in their children but still struggles with issues from the past. Plus, a reinvigorated pair say they’re best friends again and falling back in love. Which marriages are thriving, and which one is hanging on by a thread? Talk about the show here.

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March 20, 2007, 1:35 pm CDT

HOPEFUL

Quote From: tina1953

    Tara's relationship with Scott.  she knows she's negative; even Dr. Phil said she won't shut up.  Scott goes to the bar and doesn't come home until 3 or 4 in the morning because he doesn't want to go home.  i am not hopeful for any of these couples i am sorry to say.  Cherie is another one who hammers away non-stop at her husband.  Scott mentioned on the show that Cherie called Tara 15 times a day.  these people just don't get it.  if you want a successful relationship, be kind to your partner.  watch what you say.  walk away when the tension builds.  go to the mall and come back later on.  go get your hair done.  sheesh.  how hard is it to keep your mouth shut? 
It has been a while since I have been on this message board and I can not believe there are people still finding nothing but negative things to say.  When Scott mentioned Tara and I talk 15 times a day, did you get that was an exaggeration.  He meant we talk alot. Tara spoke her peace on the show and you say she doesn't shut up and I (Cherie) hammers on John.  Where did you get that?  So maybe take your advice and walk to the mailbox and come back to the message board with that "Kindness"  you speak of.  Maybe some of us kept our mouths shut for so long it was time to speak up.  That does not mean we did not give kindness to our spouses.  I wish it was that simple to make a relationship work.  I agree it is important, but there is alot more than that to make things work. 
 
March 25, 2007, 10:58 pm CDT

Hello Momisme...

Quote From: momisme2

I agree with both of you and your thoughts on stripping as well as the infedility issue.  Its nice to see some different views about the whole thing.   For a change!  lol

I dont agree with you about the alcohol thing though.  They were in the house for a week working on some serious issues.  Imo, they should have gone without the beers.  I dont think that would necessarily be sterlizing the house atmosphere, just some common sense.   But then, im not a fan of beer drinking, so perhaps im biased.  LOL

Regarding my daughter... since a veterinarian is in the medical field the costs and time was not a shock to me.  Perhaps I should have mentioned that kinda thing to her before hand.  I always just encouraged, never spoke of the long road it would be.  I have told her that its ridiculous to let others sway her.  She wants it, she should go for it!  Hopefully she will continue to pursue it instead of leaning towards working as a vet technician.  Which is what her counselors are pushing.  Believe that? 

I also agree that her working and paying for it with our help(and yes, she does already work part time)would probably be far more rewarding for her.  I just cant help but to want to hand them the money and watch them work part time, instead of full time, while they go to college.  Funny thing is, it seems to upset ME far more then it does my kids!  LOL

Been a while since I've been in here and I see people are still going on about strippers...lol. And I see your still ripping them up about it...too funny. I love it! Maybe we should open a room called "Strippers, For or Against It?" . But I have a feeling people would tear each other up in that room. I did not realize stripping was such a touchy subject for some people. I was always under the impression that adults were allowed to make their own life decisions.  I never understood how someone stripping could personally affect sooo many woman that don't even know them.  Wow, maybe that's why I suffer from insomnia and headaches...there's a stripper out there dancing right now and its impacting my personal life..LOL! Give me a break. 

 

I just love to read your posts...they always put a smile on my face. It is nice to see there are some open minded people still left in this world.

 
April 1, 2007, 5:58 am CDT

03/12 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 6

 

 

   Yes, Amen.  I would not strip, personally against my moral standards and values.  As is JUDGING other people.  The sadness is most of you saw her as a stripper.  I saw her as a deeply troubled person whom has a lot of doubt in her heart about who she is and most likely she has been hurt severly in the past.  In every relationship I saw Love there with hurt fueling the infernos.  The show really helped me a lot, as most of the Dr. Phil topics do, I try to take what I can from it and implement it in any circumstances of a similar nature I may come up against.

 

Instead of criticizing these people we all should be thanking them for letting us learn from them.

 
April 3, 2007, 3:42 pm CDT

03/12 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 6

Quote From: cherijohn_91

It has been a while since I have been on this message board and I can not believe there are people still finding nothing but negative things to say.  When Scott mentioned Tara and I talk 15 times a day, did you get that was an exaggeration.  He meant we talk alot. Tara spoke her peace on the show and you say she doesn't shut up and I (Cherie) hammers on John.  Where did you get that?  So maybe take your advice and walk to the mailbox and come back to the message board with that "Kindness"  you speak of.  Maybe some of us kept our mouths shut for so long it was time to speak up.  That does not mean we did not give kindness to our spouses.  I wish it was that simple to make a relationship work.  I agree it is important, but there is alot more than that to make things work. 

Cherie, I think that people that have posted negative posts have no idea what any of you have gone through.  I think the six of you were very brave for going on the show and working on your marriages.  You all have children and I know that none of you wanted to end up in the situations you are in.  I don't know what some expect you to do.  Are you suppose to go the rest of your life just listening and never speaking?  Don't people realize that at some point you have to stand up for yourself?  We saw a few hours of your time together as couples who are we to make opinions or judgements?  None of us have perfect marriages.  We all could use work on our relationships one way or another.  The fact that the six of you were able to go and get that help says a lot about your commitment to one another and your children.  I truly hope that all of you find happiness and comfort from your expierence.  Best wishes. Robyn

 
July 11, 2007, 9:49 am CDT

Women haters

These men on the show are absolutely awful! Woman haters to the core. On the other hand, the fact that they have been willing to display the lowest of low male characteristics on national TV shows they are willing, if partly, to change.

I did not see all parts of this program, but I hope they came to some realisation about themselves. Mind you, many men in our country that don't speak out directly and honestly like these, have the same built-in hatred for women. I can't figure fully out where all this resentment to women come from and why it is more prominent in our culture than other modern and developed cultures. My assumptions are that much of it come from the way women are portrayed in porn and media and young boys see this from an early age; the woman is sold as the constant tart, the user, manipulator and abuser. How far this image of women are from reality, that spits out in media on a daily basis. Women are the storehouse of kindness, love beauty, compassion, care and qualities that make the world and life a better place. Sure, we've got some bitches in our midst but the percentage is not overwhelming. I know one or two who would fit the unflattering picture, but there are far, far more who don't at all. We women need to oppose all these negative images of us and stop perpetuating it, starting in our daily lives with ourselves. The men are not all solely responsible for it.

 

And the women who married these men... that they've had the patience to put up with it all!?? In a way, they are partly responsible for the pig-behaviour of these men.

 

 
July 11, 2007, 1:06 pm CDT

03/12 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 6

Quote From: uw4ydoac

I would like to know how Amanda can say they have no food in the fridge and no diapers for their child in the same segment that she is seen with a $200 Coach purse.  Maybe you should look at your priorities.  Should have been saving money not buying expensive purses.  I think these two could use some financial planning assistance!!!  If they spent their money on their needs and not their wants they probably would never have had financial problems requiring her to sell herself.

Your attitude is unecessary. First of all, it is her issues to solve, not yours to judge. Second, I have four Prada purses myself, just to take an example. I guess someone like you would immediately assume I 'wasted' $500 each on them when the fact is they only cost me $10-15 each in Chinatown.

How do you know all the true facts and details of this woman's life? Give these people some credit, no matter who they are and how great their faults are, for being willing to hang their dirty laundry out in open view for cameras to film and rich networks to aire for judging people like you to gloat over, rather than to learn something valuable from it.

 

 

 

 
July 11, 2007, 1:30 pm CDT

03/12 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 6

Quote From: feelzalot

 

 

   Yes, Amen.  I would not strip, personally against my moral standards and values.  As is JUDGING other people.  The sadness is most of you saw her as a stripper.  I saw her as a deeply troubled person whom has a lot of doubt in her heart about who she is and most likely she has been hurt severly in the past.  In every relationship I saw Love there with hurt fueling the infernos.  The show really helped me a lot, as most of the Dr. Phil topics do, I try to take what I can from it and implement it in any circumstances of a similar nature I may come up against.

 

Instead of criticizing these people we all should be thanking them for letting us learn from them.

I have a friend in SoCal, very good looking, mother of two. Her parents, although they belonged to a financially comfortable middleclass, never helped her to get college education but put it as her own responsibility to earn money to educate herself. Lack of education did not give her much of job prospects. She became a mother of two at a young age. At one point in her life she had terrible financial problems and the kids were small. The father of the children would not contribute anything ('surprise, surprise') and worse than that, would squat on free rent, food and bills and surf all day while she had to carry the burden of the whole household. Arguments lead nowhere and he would only become physically abusive. So, of course, she left him eventually when it dawned that he would not change.

 

As a single mom, with eletricity shut down from failing to pay the bill and feeling desperate she was offered to be a stripper by a friend of hers, who had this 'glorious' job where she earned between $2-5000 a week. My friend earned $800 a month. Let's face it; women are being taught more and more that its attractive to be a stripper, a tart or out of control; everyone wants the slut, so slut is what we should be according to society, to media and more than anything, according to the California males who strives to own a few tatoos, grow a goatee, be in prison at least once in his life and marry a pole dancer.

 

High ideals, indeed.

 

What her stripper friend failed to tell her is that emotionally, she could not explain it, but she felt bad, unhappy and miserable for doing what she did. Something within her conscience could not agree with her, but she went against it because men loved it and insecure as she was she craved a part of the attention. And the hip part of society finds it "really cool" and we all know half of Hollywood's male population are married to these pole dancers, half prostitutes and women that have become some sort of monstrosities.

The fact was she was doing drugs before each pole-show of hers to block out the mere thought that the attention she got was actually gross, and while they all wanted and admired her, the admiration was lttle else but titilating masturbation with her as the c*m-bucket.

 

I seldom interfere into the lives of my friends to superimpose my ideas onto them, but in this case I did interfere and refuse to allow my friend to start working as a stripper. Today, several years later, she is doing extremely well after years of hard work (she owns her own $800K home), and for once in her life has actually found herself a really good, responsible and caring spouse. Her stripper friend is addicted to drugs, and gradually went from stripping to selling herself to rich LA clientelle live in the party scene where her ardent clientelle is.

 

People, NO MONEY IN THE WORLD IS WORTH SELLING YOUR DIGNITY, YOUR HUMANNESS FOR. I would rather starve than lower my standards to the level some women are sinking to.

  

 
January 12, 2008, 7:27 pm CST

John and Cherie - My husband and ME

When Dr. Phil made John keep listening to his horrible message and the things he said and the names he called his wife over and over again ... that hit home to the CORE.  He is my husband to a tee but the names and things my husband says to me are worse that those.  That is pretty bad.  But I do think about that when he is calling me those horrible names and I just wish I could put him in a room and make his listen to his self over and over again.
 
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