Topic : Homosexuality Debate and Discussion

Im getting kicked of the puter by my 8 year old who wants to play his game.  lol

Hope everyone has a great day!  :)

I'm so sorry you had to go through that as a child and applaud you for being open to a more peaceful concept because it would have been so easy for you to be just like them.

 

I know you had to leave the board 'cause of your little one, I didn't answer right away because my "little one" haha wanted to use the machine as well.  LOL LOL

 

Anyway, I can only speak for experience as well......the times I did get involved in church activity were the times I doubted the existence of God the most, even recently when I attended church with my son, who is a recovering drug addict, I was painfully disappointed in the reception he received.

 

However, I have also encountered a few  very spiritual Christians that don't brow beat every time you introduce a new thought into the conversation , recently, and some that aren't Christians, but are none the less spiritual as well.

 

 I know this isn't the board for this topic so my apologies if I annoyed anyone.

 

 

 

Catch you later Momsie!!!

 

It's going up for a vote?

 

You know it was such a long time ago but I don't remember the civil rights bill going up for a vote, I believe and somebody correct if I'm wrong, because it was a bill,  it was introduced into law without a vote ....basically.  Now you know you're talking to the ole' Boog so use laymen terms my ladies!!!  haha lol lol

 

It shouldn't go up for vote because we're talking minorities (peoples rights) the majority won't allow it just because they can.......

 

 

Hee hee,  I was sitting here waiting for someone to clear this up for me and all of a sudden the gray matter kicked in and I said to myself  "Self, you got a computer...look it up yourself you ding bat!" 

 

President Johnson signed it into law after the House of Representatives and Senate passed it to his desk on July 2, 1964....hee hee  (I'm such a clever girl)...not.....

 

If we do it right we don't need a majority vote......equal rights is equal rights...

Plus the federal government passed the DOMA law and they can reverse it as well.

And, while what gays go through now isn't nearly as horrific, we SHOULD learn from our history.

Very true my friend.

 

An interesting thing about the civil rights act is that even though it was the law employers, organizations, etc. still wouldn't follow the law and other programs had to be set in place to make sure the law was obeyed.

 

Such as schools became integrated and while folks bucked it like crazy because they felt now their rights were being violated because their children were being bused.  There were very important reasons for integrating one of them was to bring the middle and upper class kids into the poorer schools so they would start to become funded properly.

 

Change comes slow, people are slow to change but just like with this law I am optimistic homosexuals will see their day in the sun as well, as long as we have young people such as yourselves fighting for the rights of others.

Thats what I was taught in my fundamental church.    Have heard many other branches of Christianity speak of it as well.  .  So no, it is not just a Mormon thing.

I think what you may be missing in this whole debate is the risk factor in what you are condoning.

Try and think about this, without going right into defense mode. (and I can see how that would be an easy thing for ANY one to do when they are are as outnumbered you are~which is why im asking this of you  ;)

You know beyond any shadow of doubt that I completley dissagree with your religous views.  I know that you completley dissagree with my Spiritual views.  We both have different ideas and thoughts yet, we both can remain open to dialouge.  Thats a GOOD thing!  :) 

Something you may NOT know, is if in some distant future, all of a sudden the tides change and now we no longer lived in a population of Christian majority, but lets say a Wiccan-Pagan majority(just a hypothetical) and NOW it was the Pagans-Wiccans who decided that it was THEIR views which got to be legislated, I would stand up and fight against that for YOU.

I would see the risks in that.  I would, probably, completley agree with their personal ideas and theories on what they wanted legislated, but I would STILL stand up and fight against it!  Because of the risk factor involved.

If you wouldnt like to be an oppressed minority, having your personal rights and freedoms taken away from you(say...maybe now it was no longer legal to partake in communion and anyone who was caught in such an act got thrown in jail because of it...)then whether you agree, diagree, or arent sure with the BELIEF SYSTEM which is being inforced, you have the RESPONSIBILTY to stand up and fight(with your personal vote) against such things.

If you refuse to do that, it would be ALL to very easy for someone else to do the same exact thing to YOU somewhere in the future.

Can you understand the risks involved in allowing government to pass legislation SOLEY based on religious principles?  The simple question is...

WHAT IF IT WASNT YOUR BELIEFS THAT WERE LAWS?  WHAT IF SOMEONE DECIDED NOW YOU WERE THE MINORITY AND IT IS YOU WHO IS BEING OPPRESSED?

If that ever happens Cheryl, even though I completely dissagree with your belief system, I will stand up and fight for YOU.

Also, once there was a time in America where whites didn't want the civil rights bill to pass because they were afraid one thing would lead to another and they would be working for an African American one day, and at that time they certainly didn't want that to happen and another one of their arguments was (and I know because I was the one they were arguing with) "How would you like living next door to one...huhh???"

 

Seriously.