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Topic : 03/22 Anna’s Aftermath

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Created on : Monday, March 19, 2007, 05:20:36 pm
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Nearly a month has passed since the burial of model and actress Anna Nicole Smith, and though she’s been laid to rest, the fighting and bitterness continue! Around water coolers across America, people have been talking about the alleged secret meeting between Howard K. Stern and Larry Birkhead – two of the men claiming to have fathered her daughter, Dannielynn. Exactly who is Dannielynn’s biological dad, and who will get custody of the baby? Then, Entertainment Tonight weekend host and correspondent, Kevin Frazier, reveals how his interview with Anna not only made him feel uncomfortable, but also caused an uproar after it aired! Plus, Howard K. Stern’s sister, Bonnie, joins Dr. Phil to set the record straight about Howard and Anna’s relationship. Tell us what you think!

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March 22, 2007, 11:20 pm PDT

03/22 Anna’s Aftermath

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I am so not naive. The difference is in the good ol US of A, the laws are different and would not be protecting Stern at the moment as California had already called for the baby's DNA but due to Bahamas, he hasn't had to ante up. The two of them did so many interviews manipulating the media and hoping to do the same to the general public, it does not take any rocket science thinking to read between the lines and know so much about them. It does not matter how much the media film hit the floors, there was far and above enough for anyone to see the trainwreck. If people remember, her mother warned her months before her death and everyone thinks she's the crazy one. Think again. She saw it coming.

Anna had originally asked Ben Thompson to put his name on the birth certificate. She didn't care whose name was on it as long as she didn't have to share custody with Larry Birkhead.  I doubt Stern cares for a baby he knows isn't his but he may be hoping for another ET "exclusive" payoff. Birkhead's lawyer indicated that Stern had offered to to trade the baby for control of her trust and Anna related profits. Dannielynn  belongs in neutral place until paternity is established instead of being used and exploited.

 
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March 22, 2007, 11:27 pm PDT

Don't you know....

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   If Mr.Stern is an Enabler which I believe he is seeing Dannylynn has No Mother,Brother now,I worry that she will meet the same fate as them and the Cycle must be broken before it's to late.    Mr.Stern Sold to the Media to the highest Bidder Photo's of Anna's Funeral,as well as other things right after Anna Passes away,are you kidding Me,that's so wrong IMO. My youngest Son's father passed away in Dec. 2006,and I could Never sell our pain for money.
    Mr.Stern Slams people while at Anna's Funeral,are you Kidding Me.
    Mr.Stern makes a Video of Anna that shows her painted like a Clown and seems to be on some type of Drugs,and that's from a Man who Loves Anna so much,come on.If it was Sterns Baby it's ok to make fun of Anna & ok she's High.
    When Mr.Stern was in Court he said that He Had No Money and Anna was nearly Broke before she passed away.Mr Stern had no source of Income & had Not worked in past few years,that Anna paid for whatever he needed.
    I get a Weird Vibe from Mr.Stern these day's,that I didn't have a few years ago,and I just feel that something isn't right with Mr.Stern,and this was after Daniel passed away that I sensed that.
    I didn't know Anna or anyone else in this Mess but I think that Anna could've pushed away the very people who wouldn't Enable her inc, her Mom Vergie who worked with the Police Dep. Against Drugs,I think the D.A.R.E program. People who use drugs or abuse them usually don't want to be around people who Love them & want them off drugs,and I herd that Anna walked away from people who Loved her & wanted her off the Drugs.
   Mr.Stern when at Court was saying that He Wasn't sure what Drugs she was taking,Come On are you kidding Me I just don't believe that. I think that Mr.Stern was scared that if he stepped up to Anna the woman he claimed to Loved so much about her Drug problem,she probably would have pushed him out of her life too,and there is allot of Money at stake if he was pushed out of the Picture. 
    Mr.Stern is also the one who told Anna Not to sign the paper for the House in the Bahama's,and Anna didn't and now the owner has to evict Mr.Stern because he won't leave & they didn't pay per the agreement.
    And I herd Anna had told the guy who owned the house she lived in that he was the father,as well as other guy's the same thing and maybe more gifts & money,that would be a reason not to get a DNA test done esp. if it's Larry's Baby which I think it is,but I don't think Larry has the money as some of the other Men have.
   I also herd that Anna kept Mr.Stern around because he knew too much about Anna's life/secrets,so it was easier to keep him around,and I could see that reasoning.
   I don't know how Anna was able to get Prescriptions for Narcotics in mail from any Dr. is beyond Me for that class of Drugs calls that you must goto see a Dr. to get the Rx's from what I was told & read,it's on the Web as well.
    What kind of person denies Biological family members from each other,the Baby didn't have a beef with them so let's start early in life to continue to Hate,deny this innocent child her right to know the only Blood Relatives she has left,that to Me is not Love,Caring,Compassion. But making Millions off of this Baby's Loss is the right thing to do according to Mr.Stern.
    I Hope Dannylynn ends up with someone who Loves her More then Money & wont sell her out like her Mother.
                                                                                                             
  
Don't you know, if you are rich and famous, you can get prescriptions without questions?  Look at Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley,and all the other ones who have died of drug overdoses in the past.  It is some well known, but secret, hushed up thing amongst the rich and famous.  Plus, a lot of these celebrities use fake names, sometimes because they don't want the public to know that they are on prescriptions, but more than likely, you can only get so many refills and prescriptions in your name, so your publicist or secretary or whoever takes care of you, uses a fake name, calls a doctor for a prescription and gets more pills.  How, I don't know, because, the pharmacists where I live, they practically call the police to verify that you are the one getting the medicine and its not a fake prescription.  Plus, now, you have to show a driver's licence in our state or you can't get your prescription.  But I guess there are ways around it that we aren't privy to.
 
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March 22, 2007, 11:27 pm PDT

Dear duhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

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You don't know anything about Howard being a good father either.  Hell, the babysitters are doing all the work!  SO that insane statement that you made about Larry is very unfair.  Who cares what you think?  Howard should NOT have the baby since he is obviously covering up something and possibly LYING!

 

And the Media must be playing an important part, because that is where you obtained your info.....duhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

If you felt that way than why did you even bother to respond to it?  The media is where anyone got their opinion and it is just that...an opinion. 
 
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March 22, 2007, 11:41 pm PDT

Speaking of pics

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I completely agree with everything you've said and I think Howard is very good at manipulation. Just look at how long he's been doing it. I heard on Greta Van Susteren today that Ford Shelly said there were photos of Daniel while he was in the process of dying and after he had died on the computer taken from Anna's home. Now, I hardly think Anna would have taken those pictures and that only leaves one other person. Maybe Howard didn't have the chance to get rid of those pictures in time. IMO
 

I'm not really sure why people find the idea of taking pics of a deceased person is so weird.  Maybe it was Anna that wanted pics of Daniel as a rememberance.  I bet you would find that there are numerous people that have taken pictures of someone they cared about that had died.  Howard knew there was going to be an inquest into Daniel's death and did not feel the need to "get rid of the pictures".  The camera was there because I'm sure they took pics of Dannielynn in the hosp. and mother with baby. 

 
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March 22, 2007, 11:42 pm PDT

Are you serious?

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How many mothers  are raising their children without a birth father and with someone else ???? Sperm donor does not make a father .... he is the father he is on the birth certificate DEAL DONE ! He has nothing to prove to anyone but be a great daddy Anna always said he was ! they owe the public NOTHING !!!!!! So why do people feel intitled to know ?????  Makes me sick people dragging this out .Two people are dead let them rest in PEACE .
Anna Nicole was stoned half the time.  How can she say he was a good daddy when she couldn't even think coherently?  She, herself was an unfit mother.  Being stoned all the time, and then telling the nanny to feed only half the amount of formula to the baby to keep her sexy and skinny.  If you think that is good parenting, heaven help your kids.  I'm not a perfect parent by any stretch of the imagination, but I didn't starve my children just to keep them sexy, and I don't do drugs or drink to the point of passing out.  You are right on a couple of accounts.  Biological doesn't necessarily make the better parent, and I am sick of people dragging this thing out, too. 
 
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March 22, 2007, 11:48 pm PDT

Anna wanted Howard

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Larry has tried to be involved with this baby since CONCEPTION!!  After he told Anna, that if she didn't get off the drugs, he'd go for custody, she bolted to the Bahama's!! Go get your little girl, Larry!!
Anna loved bahamas when she was with the Nyguard man many years ago!!! She wanted Howard to be the dad and if Anna as still alive she would be here to say it AGAIN .... What about what Anna wanted and why does everyone keep forgetting that ????  She said Howard was the Dad he was there through it all and on the birth certificate ! Larry might have been the sperm donor but Howard is the daddy in all ways that count !!! If Larry is so great why did she have negative things to say about him when she was alive ? Its on tape !
 
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March 22, 2007, 11:51 pm PDT

Yes, he did right away

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My question is this-- I have not followed this case very closely so I may not be right but did Larry file a paternity suit when Anna was still alive or did he wait until she died till he started fighting to be her daddy? 

 

There are many pictures of Howard and the baby but nothing of Larry -- was he not allowed to be a part of her life or did he not care until there was money involved. 

 

I guess what I am saying is what is the date that Larry filed all his paperwork?

Right after she gave birth, he had filed a paternity suit.  That is how I found out that she was even pregnant in the first place.  I could care less about her, but here I was sitting watching a show on FOX and they did a news blurb and they said that this unknown man, named Larry Birkhead was demanding a paternity test because Anna Nicole told him he was the father of the baby, and then on the birth certificate, she put Howard K. Stern.  He was pretty steamed about it, and he was going to court to make ANS comply with the orders, which, as you know by now,  has dragged on.  It sort of hit the back burners until her death, and then all hell broke lose.
 
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March 22, 2007, 11:53 pm PDT

In Agreement

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I think Dr. Phil was totally wrong to state that Howard Stern should take a paternity test.  Looking at this from a legal standpoint - Howard Stern is named as the father on DanieLyn's birth certificate.  Therefore he has nothing to prove.  The courts accept him as the father - he has the right to raise this child.  It is not in his best interest to submit to a paternity test.

 

Just like a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty - Howard is presumed to be the father until someone else (like Larry Birkhead) can prove that he (Larry Birkhead) actually fathered the child.  Not to impugn Anna Nicole's name, but let's say that around the time DanieLyn was conceived Anna was intimate with 10 men - Howard, Larry, and eight others.  It is in Howard's best interest to wait for the other nine to take a paternity test.  If Larry takes a paternity test and is proven to be the father, then undoubtedly a legal battle will ensue.  However if Larry is proven not to be the baby's father, then by default the baby stays with Howard.  In this scenario, each of the other eight possible father's would have to come forward and either be proven or disproven to be the baby's father.  If one of those other eight men is the biological father and for whatever reason decides not to sue for paternity testing and then custody, then Howard retains custody of DaniLyn - without having to take a paternity test.  If Howard takes a paternity test and is shown not to be the father - then men will be coming out of the woodwork hoping to prove paternity.

 

Actually, Howard Stern's approach should be applauded - he is protecting families everywhere. No one should have the right to force your child's father to take a DNA test to prove that he is your child's father.  We don't want just anyone coming in off the street and forcing us to prove our child's paternity.

 

With all the "legal eagles" Dr. Phil has access to, he surely understands this.

I couldn't agree with you more.  Everyone wants to fault Howard at this point for being holed up in Horizons.  Where is he supposed to go.  He can't leave the county, he can't go to the other house that Anna bought that they were fixing up.  Would you leave your house if you knew there was going to be a hoard of reporters.  I believe that Howard, father or not, and none of us will know until the DNA results come out is doing what he feels Anna Nicole wanted.
 
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March 22, 2007, 11:53 pm PDT

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I think Dr. Phil was totally wrong to state that Howard Stern should take a paternity test.  Looking at this from a legal standpoint - Howard Stern is named as the father on DanieLyn's birth certificate.  Therefore he has nothing to prove.  The courts accept him as the father - he has the right to raise this child.  It is not in his best interest to submit to a paternity test.

 

Just like a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty - Howard is presumed to be the father until someone else (like Larry Birkhead) can prove that he (Larry Birkhead) actually fathered the child.  Not to impugn Anna Nicole's name, but let's say that around the time DanieLyn was conceived Anna was intimate with 10 men - Howard, Larry, and eight others.  It is in Howard's best interest to wait for the other nine to take a paternity test.  If Larry takes a paternity test and is proven to be the father, then undoubtedly a legal battle will ensue.  However if Larry is proven not to be the baby's father, then by default the baby stays with Howard.  In this scenario, each of the other eight possible father's would have to come forward and either be proven or disproven to be the baby's father.  If one of those other eight men is the biological father and for whatever reason decides not to sue for paternity testing and then custody, then Howard retains custody of DaniLyn - without having to take a paternity test.  If Howard takes a paternity test and is shown not to be the father - then men will be coming out of the woodwork hoping to prove paternity.

 

Actually, Howard Stern's approach should be applauded - he is protecting families everywhere. No one should have the right to force your child's father to take a DNA test to prove that he is your child's father.  We don't want just anyone coming in off the street and forcing us to prove our child's paternity.

 

With all the "legal eagles" Dr. Phil has access to, he surely understands this.

I couldn't agree with you more.  Everyone wants to fault Howard at this point for being holed up in Horizons.  Where is he supposed to go.  He can't leave the county, he can't go to the other house that Anna bought that they were fixing up.  Would you leave your house if you knew there was going to be a hoard of reporters.  I believe that Howard, father or not, and none of us will know until the DNA results come out is doing what he feels Anna Nicole wanted.
 
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March 23, 2007, 12:03 am PDT

Support of Stern???

Quote From: meedee

Because the man has more class than the "Snake in the Bahamas" and has been doing this legally through the Courts but the Snake and his puppets i.e. his lawyer, sister, etc. keep saying they don't want the media but they keep interviewing.... similar to Trump and Rosie!!!!! The snakes keep wanting their face in the media like they will improve their image -- wrong!! The public at large is not stupid!!
That's funny, I'm seeing just the opposite.
 
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