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Topic : 03/26 The Dr. Phil House: Teen Intervention Follow-Up

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Alex was an out-of-control 14-year-old who was stealing, running away, doing drugs and prostituting herself to older men when her family turned her in to Dr. Phil. After a tumultuous stay in The Dr. Phil House, Alex said goodbye to her mother, Kim, her grandmother, Jeanette, and her aunt, Enza, and headed to a therapeutic academy to be in a healthy learning environment. Six weeks have passed since Alex left and her family returned home without her. How has she adjusted to her new structured environment? Have Kim, Jeanette and Enza put aside their judgments and accusations, and come together once and for all? As Kim prepares for her daughter’s return, has she turned around the toxic family environment that contributed to Alex’s unhealthy behavior? Talk about the show here.

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April 2, 2007, 12:05 pm CDT

03/26 The Dr. Phil House: Teen Intervention Follow-Up

Quote From: flmom38

It sure seems tome like Enza is a little too interested in looking like a hero and making everyone else looks like less of one.  Why does she need to keep reminding everyone that she is the one who got Alex help and she is the hero?  To me that says that she is not interested in working for the welfare of everyone involved.  Who cares who initiated the whole thing at this point?  Just do what it takes to get the girl help.

Exactly.  And her acquiesance indicated to me, anyway, that she thoroughly enjoyed the role as the "better person."

 

Baloney.

 

She needs to address her own life.  Bet it's a mess.

 
April 4, 2007, 11:22 am CDT

03/26 The Dr. Phil House: Teen Intervention Follow-Up

Quote From: happycamper1

I'm glad Alex got the help she needed. She didn't need Dr. Phil telling her how bad she is. She already feels bad about herself. She needed to be told she was precious and that she CAN turn her life around. I worry about the peer pressure when she goes back to school, although I'm sure that as good as Aspen is they've dealt with her about that.

 

It seems as if the adults needed to go to sleep-away camp too. What a crew! I hope that if Jeanette moves out of Kim's house she will have the opportunity become more of a Grandma and find enjoyment in that. I know I couldn't live with my mother either.

 

Kim seems to be just sleep-walking through life. I think she means well, but she doesn't seem to know who she really is. It seems as if she could use some counseling to figure that out.

 

Enza! Enza, Enza, ENZA! Does she not have enough in her life that she has to try to run other people's lives too? I'm sure God thanks her everyday for all the help she gives Him. She probably doesn't think He can run the world without her either. I didn't see anything about HER children. Does she have any? Is she a perfect mother? She seems totally manipulative, at least from the clips we saw, and as if every word and movement she makes is for affect. Everything seems to be about HER, how SHE feels, how SHE wants Kim's household to run, how all the good stuff happened because of HER, and how SHE'S the hero. But she's totally blind as to HER part in the mess. How would she feel if someone came into her house and picked at everything she did, put her down to her family, and caused disruption? If she's the sister-in-law where is her husband? Doesn't he have the cajones to tell her to SHUT-UP? Or does she completely control him?

 

I agree that they all would be better off with Enza out of their lives, but I'm sure that when Alex goes home Enza will be back manipulating things again.

 

I understand that Dr. Phil's focus had to be Alex, but why wasn't a little more time spent on these adults? I would be very interested in hearing why Dr. Phil didn't come down harder on Enza, and help her see what she's doing. I think it was touched on, but it didn't seem as if she got it, and will be the same old destructive source at the next opportunity.

Ahhh....obviously, Alex was the scapegoat.  That's how it works in families that have that dynamic.

 

Nobody else has to really, sincerely, look at their own behavior.

 

They subtly enable the scapegoat to continue while pretending to be dismayed.

 

Why?  Simple.

 

They get to feel OK and superior.

 
April 5, 2007, 7:33 pm CDT

ENZA

 ENZA - if anybody had a toxic influence on the relationship between Alex and Kim, it was you! Not that Kim didn't do her share of the damage, but throughout your television appearnces, you were ranting and raving, basically ending up screaming. Everything was me, me, me, me, me. How good you were to Alex. If you have spend so much time and effort on Alex's and Kim's problems, what about your own family? Or could it be that you really do NOT have control over them and that Alex was an easy, impressionable target? Instead of trying to heal the rift between mother and daughter, you drove a wedge between them which makes me question your motives. And all that backstabbing and conniving conversations - that absolutely were not adult behaviour. Rather lack thereof.
KIM - straighten your life out. Stop being so needy and stop parading men through your children's lives. If you have a grudge against your mother, talk to her about it and get over it woman. You owe your children something better than you offer them now.
JEANETTE- Time to move away dear. Listening to other people's converstations, bearing grudges and carry this “I'm the victim” attitude is not what one expect from an adult of your age. If the living arrangements doesn't suit you, you better make the choice. The way things are now, you really are not contributing to a healthy relationship between a mother and her children ion that house.
ALEX - You have a chance of making a lasting change in your life. Grab it with both hands. That kind of luck don't come around twice in one lifetime. Create a life for yourself like the one you craved for when you made the wrong choices, with the one difference, now you know different, you know better and you know there are people like doctor Phil who cares.

jadajb
 
June 6, 2007, 8:25 pm CDT

Bravo Kim

I have watched every show regarding this family and was, obviously, frustrated initially by not being able to tell Enza to shut-up.

Kim appeared to be totally flanked by two emotionally-confused women, her sister in-law and her mother, yet still did her best as a mother and protector. To not totally "let rip" under the seige of shouting in the Dr Phil House (from Enza) was quite a feat.

Well done Kim, well done Alex. Sadly, no father is in this piece, and i think that is a poignant piece of the puzzle.

 
July 23, 2007, 8:02 pm CDT

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I'm surprised to hear people coming down so hard on her Aunty, if my sister-in-law neglected her child so much that the child was out having sex with strangers I'd be yelling at her too (add to that years of frustration and she'd be lucky to be alive).  If that girl had caught some disease everyone would have been asking the Aunty why she didn't do something (you'd bet Kim would have since she was the biggest buck passer I've ever seen).  Why was that girl so promiscuous?  Did one of Kim's boyfriends go where he shouldn't have?

 

Who cares if the Aunty proclaims that she saved her niece?  Someone had to and the mother or Grandmother didn't write to Dr Phil for the help they couldn't give.  Don't tell me any of you would sit by and listen to that mother acting like she was the one who got the help her daughter needed without saying anything.  I highly doubt that woman has given up on alcohol and partying (since she is more interested in reliving her own youth than making sure her daughter survives hers).  I hope I'm wrong.

 
July 24, 2007, 8:05 pm CDT

huh?

Quote From: klinedinst

I can't believe Dr. Phil didn't tell that Grandmother to step back.  She is NOT the mother of this child, and should NOT be giving advice or telling the children what to do unless she's asked by the mother to do so.  As far as that Enza goes, she is nothing but a troublemaker.  Why are these people SO involved in this child's life?  I can see caring about a neice or granddaughter, but they go WAY overboard!
So if your Grandchild was off running around like a slut you'd just shut your mouth because "You aren't the child's mother"? 
 
July 24, 2007, 8:12 pm CDT

03/26 The Dr. Phil House: Teen Intervention Follow-Up

Quote From: buffaloman

I can't believe Enza really believes she's been helping 14 year old Alex.  Enza thinks she's done a wonderful thing getting Alex the help she needs.  I'd like to suggest  there is a really good chance one of the reasons Alex needs help to begin with is the damage caused by Enza. The graphic rantings by Enza in the house were at times more than I could bear.  Enza seems to have no clue that her so called "help"  is probably a major factor in this young woman's acting out.  I've never seen so much venom poor out of someones mouth who plays "little miss innocent Aunt Enza" while  being such a toxic element in this relationship.  If she were part of my family, or even a casual friend who was delusional to the point of thinking she should be thanked for her role in getting this girl help, she would be escorted out of my life permanently.  Did I miss something?  I don't recall anyone taking her to task and calling her on this repeatedly.  I had to leave the room many times and could hardly watch the house scenes.  Thank you for letting me get this off my chest.  The woman is evil and should never be allowed near that girl again.

Oh Please! Kim herself said Enza hasn't had anything to do with the children in 4 years.  If Enza hasn't had anything to do with Alex, she can't be to blame for the child running around with men can she?  Who is telling the truth?  I wouldn't accept much of what Kim says at face value.

 

Kim has copped out on her children and all I saw was everyone else getting the blame (even Alex), after the child was in treatment her mother didn't pass on messages to her from her family and said her Grandmother was "just the same".  Who is now causing a rift?

 

Hopefully Kim grows up and accepts resopnsibility for rasing her younger daughter before she too ends up off the rails.

 

 

 
July 24, 2007, 8:15 pm CDT

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Quote From: lapine403

I think the Aunt should have been left out of the entire Dr. Phil House thing.  Nearly everything she had to say had "I" in there somehow.  "I'm just so happy that I got the help that I knew my niece needed".  Her very presence was pretty distracting and detrimental to the mother/daughter/grandmother getting help.  Dr. Phil's staff should just have politely thanked Enza for the initial contact info and proceeded without her.  I'm glad the mother & grandmother aren't interested in a relationship with her and I hope that the teenaged girl steers clear of her fame-hungry aunt, at least until she's on solid ground.

 

The fact that the aunt didn't contact the girl while she was in therapy (when there were no cameras present) speaks volumes about the kind of person she is... and I'm glad the girl seemed to "get" that fact.

 

I noticed that the girl was much more talkative and self-confident than when she was in the house.  She looked great, I hope she keeps on that path.

The Aunt would have been left out completely and so would everyone else if the Aunt didn't contact this show.  Alex would probably have caught some disease and everyone would be oblivious.
 
July 24, 2007, 8:34 pm CDT

cell phone

Quote From: tirani22

you know i was thinking about that to. i feel that kim should cancel that cell phone service or if she doesnt want to do that she should change the phone number. its sad that men are still calling for alex. i really dont understand how alex bought the phone in the first place. i know she used the money she got from the men. but shes only 14. how could she sign up for cell phone service?

You can buy pre-paid mobiles than do not need to be registered.

It's what most teens do so they dont get into debt, and can secretly have a mobile/cell....

Also, if you have a "habit" of cell phone abuse, its easier to manage your $$ spent on it...

 
July 24, 2007, 8:44 pm CDT

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Quote From: jadajb

 ENZA - if anybody had a toxic influence on the relationship between Alex and Kim, it was you! Not that Kim didn't do her share of the damage, but throughout your television appearnces, you were ranting and raving, basically ending up screaming. Everything was me, me, me, me, me. How good you were to Alex. If you have spend so much time and effort on Alex's and Kim's problems, what about your own family? Or could it be that you really do NOT have control over them and that Alex was an easy, impressionable target? Instead of trying to heal the rift between mother and daughter, you drove a wedge between them which makes me question your motives. And all that backstabbing and conniving conversations - that absolutely were not adult behaviour. Rather lack thereof.
KIM - straighten your life out. Stop being so needy and stop parading men through your children's lives. If you have a grudge against your mother, talk to her about it and get over it woman. You owe your children something better than you offer them now.
JEANETTE- Time to move away dear. Listening to other people's converstations, bearing grudges and carry this I'm the victim attitude is not what one expect from an adult of your age. If the living arrangements doesn't suit you, you better make the choice. The way things are now, you really are not contributing to a healthy relationship between a mother and her children ion that house.
ALEX - You have a chance of making a lasting change in your life. Grab it with both hands. That kind of luck don't come around twice in one lifetime. Create a life for yourself like the one you craved for when you made the wrong choices, with the one difference, now you know different, you know better and you know there are people like doctor Phil who cares.

jadajb

IN regrds to the grandma and the way she was eavesdropping...this behavior is clearly showing signs that Jeanette is experiencing some degree of mental instability...I mean, like either senility or alzheimers.  This behavior I see reminds me very muchof my mother when her alzheimers started to kick in...sad to see, but I fear Jeanette is showing signs of this.....

 

The screaming between Kim and Enza reminds me of the fights  Iused to have with my mother, we used to go at it like wild animals!  To me, it brought back memories of how my mother and I reacted to eachother...we were toxic to eachother, and although now I miss her (she's still alive, but her mind is gone), I know my life is so much easier to live....

 

Sometimes people are just not meant to be together, better to have Enza away from this family and have Enza look after her own lot...

 

In regards to the dads absence.... he would have to be Enzas' brother, right?  Perhaps he is as loopy as his sister?  I dont know, but the family dynamics are odd and I feel this should have been made known to us....  I feel it was/is relevant to whats been happening...

 

I have only seen part 1 and 2, so far, hope tomorrow they show us more...I seriously want to do some damage to Enza... and I hate violence...

 

Rita

 
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