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Topic : 03/27 Fifteen Minutes of Fame

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Created on : Friday, March 23, 2007, 10:07:43 am
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With reality TV and the virtual worlds of MySpace and YouTube, becoming an instant star is easier than ever. But to what lengths will some people go for fortune and fame? Two producers, Michael and Perry, attempt to find out in their new documentary, American Cannibal. Many contestants say they would eat a finger, cut off a toe and even starve themselves to death just to get their 15 minutes of fame! Then, Brian is so desperate for a rich-and-famous lifestyle that he’s willing to give up his virginity on national TV. Brian says losing his innocence for millions is a good career move, but what happens if he doesn’t make the cut on the show? And, Somaya insists that self-promotion on the Internet has made her a celebrity who attends red carpet events. Her best friend, Alysia, says using the Web for publicity is so dangerous, it even garnered Somaya a stalker! Is Alysia really concerned for her friend, or is she just jealous? Plus, Sam, an unforgettable contestant on the reality show The Apprentice, reveals for the first time how he hit rock bottom chasing the celebrity dream. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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March 27, 2007, 4:10 pm PDT

Do you care about your future marriage?

What I want to ask Brian is what is planning to tell his wife one their wedding night? "I'm so sorry I couldn't wait for you because I wanted to be famous and lose my virginity on national TV." I can't imagine any girl possibly wanting to marry someone who's willing to sell himself short on national TV. Or at least have a lasting marriage. That act right there is a sign that Brian's not willing to wait for what's worth it. He wants to sell himself short for what feels right in the moment. That's not attractive at all. Good luck on your future dating night.
 
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March 27, 2007, 4:16 pm PDT

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While I'm not a really outgoing person, I can hold an interesting conversation with total strangers, yet I would not count them amoung my friends.  Perhaps it's just me, but I would prefer to put an intense amount of energy and heart into a few relationships rather than a little bit into a multitude...I truly believe that a real friendship must be tested and tried - something a phone line cannot allow for.  Due to changes in life and distance, many of my closest friendships have been limited to few visits but regular contact by phone/email; however, without the interaction and first hand experience of who they are they wouldn't have survived. 

 

 

"Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence. True friendship is a plant of slow grow, and must undergo and withstand the shocks of adversity before it is entitled to the appellation."
-George Washington
Well...you do realize that online you can have your heart into a few relationships. It doesn't have to be "a multitude"...

"I truly believe that a real friendship must be tested and tried - something a phone line cannot allow for."

I can't agree there. I have had my online friendships tested and tried, just as my "real" ones.

This is how many SAHM's have social lives now. I love it. And these people aren't strangers to me. Some I have been talking to for nearly a year now on this board, others for years beyond that. I would welcome them into my house and not feel odd about it at all.

Anyway...:o)
 
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March 27, 2007, 4:19 pm PDT

something you might regret

This comment is for the young gentleman who is considering losing his virginity on a reality TV show.   You made the comment that doing this will give you confidents, however do you think being called the "second man" or anything along those lines will give you confidents?   I'm only asking because the first time a man losses his virginity doesn't last that long, so most of the time you already feel badly.  Yet doing it on a public venue so everyone else can laugh will be nothing but bad for your self-confidence.   Plus, in the world we live in you will never be able to forget this because it will always be around.   One day if you decide to have kids they might find it and how are you going to go about explaining to them to have morals and standards, when you showed you didn't.   Also, what respectable female will have you long-term after you have done this?   I just thought you might like a female's opinions on this matter before you do something you might (most likely) regret.
 
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March 27, 2007, 4:23 pm PDT

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He said something about this girl in high school who rejected him and she was saving herself for marriage.  I don't know why in this day in age, it's so IMPORTANT to lose your virginity.  It's a personal choice that seems to be so "taboo".  It doesn't make any sense because with the threat of life altering disease, pregnancy, and emotional baggage, you'd think the opposite would be true.  Being a virgin is a good thing that should be VALUED instead of held in contempt.  It certainly shouldn't be lost on some forgettable reality show.
Um.... I was being sarcastic. I should know better here.
 
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March 27, 2007, 4:26 pm PDT

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BALONEY!  IF you respect your parents, as well as yourself, your "mommy's" approval IS paramount throughout your life.  Aretha said it best........  R E S P E C T...that includes yourself.  :wink:
ppl need to stop spelling out R E S P E C T - it's unnecessary and horribly overused.
 
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March 27, 2007, 4:30 pm PDT

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ppl need to stop spelling out R E S P E C T - it's unnecessary and horribly overused.
LOL...too true!
 
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March 27, 2007, 4:31 pm PDT

I have a Question

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Well...you do realize that online you can have your heart into a few relationships. It doesn't have to be "a multitude"...

"I truly believe that a real friendship must be tested and tried - something a phone line cannot allow for."

I can't agree there. I have had my online friendships tested and tried, just as my "real" ones.

This is how many SAHM's have social lives now. I love it. And these people aren't strangers to me. Some I have been talking to for nearly a year now on this board, others for years beyond that. I would welcome them into my house and not feel odd about it at all.

Anyway...:o)

So, just curious...You believe that a real friendship can exist without any physical, face to face contact - and I am excluding a webcam as such. 

 

Not to be a negative person, but kids feel that way about the predators they talk to online - those folks that say what needs to be said, not what the truth is. 

 

How do you test an online relationship?   It's all about words.  Actions make a relationship.  Even in face to face relationships, words can be meaningless if the actions do not support them. 

 

I enjoy the convenience of the internet, being able to email my family and friends while in my pj's and at all hours of the day/night but it's the voice, the face, the proximity to a human that makes the relationship what it is.  You can put all the cute litte symbols and such in there and type for days, but that smile from someone who knows you - warts and all - is all it takes some days to make the world safe. 

 
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March 27, 2007, 4:43 pm PDT

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So, just curious...You believe that a real friendship can exist without any physical, face to face contact - and I am excluding a webcam as such. 

 

Not to be a negative person, but kids feel that way about the predators they talk to online - those folks that say what needs to be said, not what the truth is. 

 

How do you test an online relationship?   It's all about words.  Actions make a relationship.  Even in face to face relationships, words can be meaningless if the actions do not support them. 

 

I enjoy the convenience of the internet, being able to email my family and friends while in my pj's and at all hours of the day/night but it's the voice, the face, the proximity to a human that makes the relationship what it is.  You can put all the cute litte symbols and such in there and type for days, but that smile from someone who knows you - warts and all - is all it takes some days to make the world safe. 

"Not to be a negative person, but kids feel that way about the predators they talk to online - those folks that say what needs to be said, not what the truth is. "

Yeah, and kids feel that way about real life predators to.

"How do you test an online relationship?   It's all about words.  Actions make a relationship.  Even in face to face relationships, words can be meaningless if the actions do not support them. "

It's hard to explain, you are more than welcomed to come and visit a board on here where we consider ourselves friends. There are several around here, communities of people with things in common. You talk, you share your life, you trust, and you begin to love a person. It's not totally the same, I know, but it's it's own thing. 

I guess I don't know what you mean by actions. I have sent and received gifts on occasion with these other women. We have spoken on the phone. We have been there to "hold hands" emotionally through illness, death...depression...we have cried tears for each other. Even laughed until someone peed their pants! These are all actions.

I just have to disagree with you. A relationship isn't about the physical, it's about trust and honesty.

Trust me, my online friends have taken me, warts and all.  When you can't see a smile from someone, but feel it in their words...that is an amazing gift...I think anyway. Online relationships happen, they aren't how you think of them or portray them. These women on these boards know me deeper than my own parents, than my brothers, than anyone I have ever known except my husband.
 
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March 27, 2007, 4:55 pm PDT

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I have read "The Long Walk" also. And I agree with what you are saying.  The t.v. has become the new Roman arena.  But the truth of the matter is, these kinds of things have been going on since the dawn of man.

 

I am currently reading a book by Colin Wilson called "The Giant Book of True Crime."  This book goes back to the earliest records from all over the world and talks about violence , motives and how truley sick people were even back before the Roman Era.  The book also covers the topic of what people from the earliest records to present day find to be the most entertaining.  You may find this book to be rather enlightening.

I must borrow that from a friend of mine, she told me she would lend it to me after I mentioned it to her, sounds like a good one.

Through the ages, there was nothing like a Christian being torn apart by a lion ( among other things ), or a couple of gladiators shredding each other ( parallels with WWE only without the blood and death) to entertain the masses.  And a Saturday afternoon, take the kids to see a public execution, whether it was a " Witch" being burned at the stake, or a public hanging, these things happened, for those who don't belive it.

I think what bothers me the most, is we are on a slippery slope toward the same forms of entertainment (how many out there would like to see a public execution of someone, I am sure there are a few whether they care to admit it or not ) our children and teens EMULATE this stuff ( how many parents have seen the Jackass or Bumfights videos ? Bet many of your teens have, but they aren't going to tell you about it )  this guy losing his virginity on TV, half of North America will be tuned in, Sex is another form of entertainment otherwise there would be no need for the XXX ratings, no demand, no supply.

So now that Fear Factor and Survivor have lost their edge in the "Reality TV" saturated networks, it should scare people to think what they will come up with next to get your viewing, and to keep up their ratings.

 
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March 27, 2007, 4:55 pm PDT

Prove Virginity

At today's show, a guy is willing to lose his virginity on national TV.  I am just wondering how guys can prove that they are really a virgin. 
 
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