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Topic : 03/27 Fifteen Minutes of Fame

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Created on : Friday, March 23, 2007, 10:07:43 am
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With reality TV and the virtual worlds of MySpace and YouTube, becoming an instant star is easier than ever. But to what lengths will some people go for fortune and fame? Two producers, Michael and Perry, attempt to find out in their new documentary, American Cannibal. Many contestants say they would eat a finger, cut off a toe and even starve themselves to death just to get their 15 minutes of fame! Then, Brian is so desperate for a rich-and-famous lifestyle that he’s willing to give up his virginity on national TV. Brian says losing his innocence for millions is a good career move, but what happens if he doesn’t make the cut on the show? And, Somaya insists that self-promotion on the Internet has made her a celebrity who attends red carpet events. Her best friend, Alysia, says using the Web for publicity is so dangerous, it even garnered Somaya a stalker! Is Alysia really concerned for her friend, or is she just jealous? Plus, Sam, an unforgettable contestant on the reality show The Apprentice, reveals for the first time how he hit rock bottom chasing the celebrity dream. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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March 27, 2007, 9:42 pm PDT

You are so right

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 I believe we, as a human race , have not changed one iota .  We are still cruel, heartless, egomaniacs , who with our depraved and sleazy minds have polluted ourselves so badly that it turns everything black and evil.  I believe only God's love and purity can destroy this blackness that is overpowering our world, our children and our families. May we all turn to God's light so we can be cleansed.      
The only thing that supposedly makes us better than our ancestors is we have laws.  Our ancestors didn't have laws to stop gladiators fighting to the death, and jousting matches, and sacrificing people for religious and other purposes, and public hangings, beheadings, drawing and quarterings, being put in the stockads, and all the other fun stuff people a long time ago had to endure.  But yes, you are right, we are a scourge, all of us all over the world.  No one is immune, because as God says, no one is without sin. 
 
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March 27, 2007, 9:45 pm PDT

What?

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Um..what? 
um...what, what?  What didn't you understand?
 
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March 27, 2007, 10:07 pm PDT

Is celebrity really so great?

What I was thinking about while watching this show is the kids who have been on the show who think becoming a celebrity is the best thing in the world.  I think what needs to be said to all these people is that celebrity is not a sure path to happiness.  In fact, it may be the opposite for most people, considering all the celebrities who are on drugs or alcohol, or have multiple marriages or bizarre behavior.  I think people have fantasies about celebrity that are false.  They need to heart that celebrity is not all that it's cracked up to be.
 
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March 27, 2007, 10:24 pm PDT

We do read

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Wow...
Okay- take a deep breath.

First things first-
#1-
I've watched the show twice, and there is NO mention of Religion-
You needed a springboard, and tried to invent one.
The adult film guy said it wasn't on because he had turned down offers for it because they were sleazier versions of what he wanted to do. Man... Why lie? Just be honest. Sort of scuttles your Jesus rant, because He was honest...

#2-
Books are good things for 9 year olds.
So is a TV guide for her parent, and maybe an understanding of the V-chip and parental controls built into most modern televisions.

It's not the media' s responsibility to protect your kids- it's yours. If you are not sure (and it seems to ALWAYS happen when you watch) you might want to hit the button marked "OFF". It's a great censor.
Or, watch Discovery. Not much sex going on there.

#3 -
Thank Xenu that we don't have to inflict our individual religions on each other- no matter what the holday or signifigance to whichever sect subscribes to it.

#4 -
I hear ya on the cannibalism. No way could I eat a toe. But, I WILL see "AMERICAN CANNIBAL" when it comes around. Because, I have NO problem watching someone else eat a toe. And getting to see the behind the scenes of a reality show that fails? That's good TV...um, at the movies.
Its just the time she's allowed to watch tv that we encounter all the problems.  I think that guy who worked in the porno movies did mention religion, and that's what set me off. I heard it.
 
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March 27, 2007, 10:34 pm PDT

Why?!

I'm a little confused about the man who wants to lose his virginity on TV.  He seems intelligent, sweet, handsome, and otherwise capable of finding a real relationship and/or losing his virginity to someone other than a porn star.  That is, IF he gets rid of his bearded friend, who seems full of bad advice.  Grizzly Adams seems to think that since he, himself, wants to be on reality TV, everyone else must.  I didn't think the virgin was as enthusiastic about Virgin Territory as his hairy little friend was.  By the way, someone should share with the latter that having a smart mouth and talking back aren't the same as being funny or witty, or having a good personality.

One more thing... PornoProducer said that the reason why we haven't had a "lose your virginity on TV" reality show before now is because we live in a puritanical society controlled by the religious right.  I don't think you have to be a Quaker to value your virginity enough not to offer it up to a porn star as a vehicle to catapult you to "D-lebrity" status.  I mean... when did the morals and values of our society plummet to such depths that people who don't want to see porn stars have sex with virgins on TV are branded radical right-wingers?  I'd be pleased if we were all a little MORE puritanical if it meant we could keep that kind of trash out of our living rooms for a few years more.

Just my two cents...


 
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March 27, 2007, 10:38 pm PDT

I couldn't of said it better

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Some of the people my age (44) and older and younger are the ones who RAISED THIS "ME" generation. We have to accept much of the blame for the ways our children turned out, behave, etc.

 

After the 2001 terrorists attack on U.S. soil, people first pulled together. Their priorities were straight...for awhile. They realized that family was/is #1. They returned to chruches in record numbers. Sadly, it will take more attacks and more bad times for the spoiled, self-indulgent people of this country to truly learn what is important!

 

Being good to eachother and leading healthy, peaceful, spiritual lives is what keeps our country strong. All these "ME' people are going to group up and lead sad, unhappy, unhealthy lives....mostly alone. HOPEFULLY they will get help and work toward bettering themselves. I can't imagine living the way they do! Life is just too short for that!

I agree completely with you.  Perhaps, you are right.  Maybe people will come around. I wasn't really a bad youth, just typical-selfish for a while, but then I sort of outgrew it.  Not completely, but I saw my errors, and its taken thirty years but I'm still growing and trying to change for the better.  I am your age, and perhaps there is hope for those poor misguided people on the show.  I just wish Dr. Phil would of told them off and started the journey for them instead of just sitting there.  I think about how I was at their age, and I wasn't perfect, but at least I had enough low self esteem not to try to be famous for any reasons.  I hope this people grow and mature and learn to see how unwise they are. 
 
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March 27, 2007, 10:41 pm PDT

03/27 Fifteen Minutes of Fame

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Wow...
Okay- take a deep breath.

First things first-
#1-
I've watched the show twice, and there is NO mention of Religion-
You needed a springboard, and tried to invent one.
The adult film guy said it wasn't on because he had turned down offers for it because they were sleazier versions of what he wanted to do. Man... Why lie? Just be honest. Sort of scuttles your Jesus rant, because He was honest...

#2-
Books are good things for 9 year olds.
So is a TV guide for her parent, and maybe an understanding of the V-chip and parental controls built into most modern televisions.

It's not the media' s responsibility to protect your kids- it's yours. If you are not sure (and it seems to ALWAYS happen when you watch) you might want to hit the button marked "OFF". It's a great censor.
Or, watch Discovery. Not much sex going on there.

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Thank Xenu that we don't have to inflict our individual religions on each other- no matter what the holday or signifigance to whichever sect subscribes to it.

#4 -
I hear ya on the cannibalism. No way could I eat a toe. But, I WILL see "AMERICAN CANNIBAL" when it comes around. Because, I have NO problem watching someone else eat a toe. And getting to see the behind the scenes of a reality show that fails? That's good TV...um, at the movies.
Unfortunately, I deleted the DVR'd  show, otherwise I could give you the exact  quote when he said it was because of the religious right domination of our puritanical society that we didn't have those kinds of shows on TV right now.  It was at a point when someone else was talking over him, but I promise you he said it.
 
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March 27, 2007, 10:45 pm PDT

You heard it, too?

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I'm a little confused about the man who wants to lose his virginity on TV.  He seems intelligent, sweet, handsome, and otherwise capable of finding a real relationship and/or losing his virginity to someone other than a porn star.  That is, IF he gets rid of his bearded friend, who seems full of bad advice.  Grizzly Adams seems to think that since he, himself, wants to be on reality TV, everyone else must.  I didn't think the virgin was as enthusiastic about Virgin Territory as his hairy little friend was.  By the way, someone should share with the latter that having a smart mouth and talking back aren't the same as being funny or witty, or having a good personality.

One more thing... PornoProducer said that the reason why we haven't had a "lose your virginity on TV" reality show before now is because we live in a puritanical society controlled by the religious right.  I don't think you have to be a Quaker to value your virginity enough not to offer it up to a porn star as a vehicle to catapult you to "D-lebrity" status.  I mean... when did the morals and values of our society plummet to such depths that people who don't want to see porn stars have sex with virgins on TV are branded radical right-wingers?  I'd be pleased if we were all a little MORE puritanical if it meant we could keep that kind of trash out of our living rooms for a few years more.

Just my two cents...


I just got lamblasted by someone from California, I think, (why am I not suprised?) who said I was lying about the religious thing, that she saw the show twice and not once was religion mentioned and I was STRETCHING to make my point.  I suppose when she reads your message, you are going to get reemed a new one, too, after all, she seemed to know so much!!!  I was really disgusted with all three of those three guys who were involved with the "movies".  They were smug and smarmy and I was so turned off by their attitude.  I guess concerning the porno producer, we should consider the source whenever he spews his bilge.  Have you noticed that porno is such a high dollar market, but whenever someone from that side of the industry wants to switch to "regular" producing or acting or directing, no one wants to touch them wtih a ten foot pole?  Why is that?

 
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March 27, 2007, 10:46 pm PDT

Someone else heard the word religion

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Wow...
Okay- take a deep breath.

First things first-
#1-
I've watched the show twice, and there is NO mention of Religion-
You needed a springboard, and tried to invent one.
The adult film guy said it wasn't on because he had turned down offers for it because they were sleazier versions of what he wanted to do. Man... Why lie? Just be honest. Sort of scuttles your Jesus rant, because He was honest...

#2-
Books are good things for 9 year olds.
So is a TV guide for her parent, and maybe an understanding of the V-chip and parental controls built into most modern televisions.

It's not the media' s responsibility to protect your kids- it's yours. If you are not sure (and it seems to ALWAYS happen when you watch) you might want to hit the button marked "OFF". It's a great censor.
Or, watch Discovery. Not much sex going on there.

#3 -
Thank Xenu that we don't have to inflict our individual religions on each other- no matter what the holday or signifigance to whichever sect subscribes to it.

#4 -
I hear ya on the cannibalism. No way could I eat a toe. But, I WILL see "AMERICAN CANNIBAL" when it comes around. Because, I have NO problem watching someone else eat a toe. And getting to see the behind the scenes of a reality show that fails? That's good TV...um, at the movies.
I jsut read a post from someone who heard the word religion from the porno producer, so I think you were the one who wasn't listening right.
 
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March 27, 2007, 10:50 pm PDT

I hope you prosecuted them

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One of your guests in particular, discussed having over half a million friends on my space. Let me say from personal experience, my space is a dangerous playground. I found that the majority of profiles posted on my space, are individuals living on the dark side of life. The website came to my attention by sheer luck, and a good friend that was attempting to find the answers to her step daughters wild and questionable behavior. I rented one of my homes to two brothers, that desperately needed a place to call home. The younger of the two boys was in fact dating the friends step daughter. After eight months of agonizing hell dealing with these boys, I had to serve them with an eviction notice. The boys were given seven days to pack up and vacate the premises. The boys spent that week causing approximately $20,000.00 worth of damage to the house. Almost everyday of the month following the eviction, the older boy would call and threaten to burn down my house. I explained to the boys that I would only hold their belongings for thirty days, and then it would all be tossed in a dumpster. My friend suggested I surf the web and check out myspace.com. She informed me that my house was quite the hot topic on that particular website. I followed her advice, and got more than I bargained for. The older boy had a photo posted, flipping off the camera, with a caption that read '3330 who knows bout' that'. That is the address of the house that was destroyed. And what I found continued to get worse. I contacted that boy, and confronted him with my findings. On day 31 following the boys leaving my property, the house was set on fire. Following that ordeal, the older boy then called and threatened to burn down my personal residence, which is valued at over a million dollars. Let me just say, these two boys definately recieved their 15 minutes of fame, and a whole lot more.

I hope to God you prosecuted them for what they did, and it seems to me that you have all the evidence right there on My Space.  I would prosecute to the fullest and I wouldn't let the District Attorney bargain for any kind of lighter sentence or probation.   Just when you think you have it heard it all, one hears this.
 
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