Topic : 04/04 Did He or Didn't He?

You are so correct, that poly is not 100% accurate. So, what will that test prove? Even once the test results are revealed there will always be doubts on both sides. 

I have no comment either way on his guilt or non-guilt. And honestly, even after the results are read I will not be able to take a side.  

But I do believe there are 2 sides to every story and in both sides there will be some truth and some lies.

This must be very hard for everyone who is involved in this matter and my heart goes out to all of them.   With matters such as this, there never really is any peace to be achieved. Someone will be found guilty and someone will be found innocent, but everyones life will be left a train wreck.

I do hope above all things that there was no sexual assult committed! I find any sexual assult on a minor or an adult to be one of the worst crimes committed.  For the childs sake, let this whole story be a lie and hopefully they can all move on from here.

A DNA test is very precise, a polygraph test is not.  It is not allowed as evidence of guilt in court

because it is not all conclusive.  that does not not mean it is not a valuable tool in finding

information.  It is still used by police, FBI, security authorities and legal systems because it does find information.  It is not fullproof though.  A few people out there can either pass it because they do not have guilt responses and some show responses from mre nervous

feelings.  Dr. Phil's show is not court thus that test which is agreed on by the party is a tool

for us to use to find clue, information and even innocent cases?

A person being the kindest, nicest or evilest person is not any kind of proof whatsoever regarding sexual abuse!  That is a fact.  There is perpatrators out there with remorse who have spoken up and gave a wealth of information about thier manipulations and victimization of children.  They also have told alot about the perpatrators manners and methods of manipulating a whole family.

Priests, lawyers, Doctors, carpenters, Pastors, teachers, couselors, family members, the list is

endless: anyone can and does comit this crime and offence to children!  Most often it is a trusted family member who offers the most availablity of the victim to be abused.

Did he or didn't he?  Well a child has made a complaint of it, that alone tells us all there is definately a problem there.  Why is it that when it is adults who are msot apt to lie that we instantly defend an adult based on their personality when that is never a true factor for sexually abusing a child?  Actually most sexual abusers was sexually abused as children and most often kept it secret or was not believed.

I would always question the adult who was accused as being inappropriate with the child until

there is some kind of evidence it did not happen, the opposing way is far too risky to the welfare of children.  Taking the adult who can defend for themself, can speak up, can articulate events better and is most often guilty when accused is far too risky to the child?

Children who are sexually abused do not just get over it, they carry a life long problem of some sort, they become perpatrators, drug and alcohol abusers, sexual permiscuous, and so on?

They become self-injurers, many do not speak up because the family members get so bent on protecting the accsued at the childs expense.  It is far better to stay on a middle ground than to take a side which causes further abuse to the child?  Why is that so hard to believe and do? 

I would rather have to say I am wrong and sorry about taking a childs side than have to live with siding with a perpatrator that so abuses more of abuse to a child!

Only children are innocent!

You show yourself a good sister to your brother and that is a good thing for him.

Stating that : "My brother did not do this.
I stand by him.
I will continue to stand by him.
Nothing that anyone says is going to convince me otherwise."

is giving him a clean slate no matter what he does or may have done?

That is not fair to anyone especially him? 

Fair is weighing both sides?  A child is caught in a battle now for family

worth, affection, trust and love?  you just told us that the child is not important enough to be given a fair decision, you already made your mind up?  That is sad!

I wish you well in your defense for one side before knowing that you know for sure and

risking a childs welfare. 

that you so easily defend and side 100% on your brother without truely knowing for sure

does not credit your sense of fairness, please try to open your mind to more issues

than that you do not want to belive it is possible because of how you feel?

I would not want you with small children at all because you have sided 100% which leaves no room for a child to be anything but available to be abused around you, far too many family members like that now leaving children to carry the weight of the abuse or problems.

IF he is not guilty, then your stand of 70% for him and 30% for the child will still leave

you some comfort in sibling bonds but to not give this child any room for trust from you ?

That makes you an unsafe person to be trusted with children.  your Step-Mom is correct to keep you away because of your 100% stand against her child!
Any kind of person can abuse children: Priests, Doctors, -the list is endless- because it is not about what kind of personality those around them see?

To error on the side of a child is  a far better place to be found wrong?

I will apologize to the victims, maybe I did put that the wrong way, but please to the true victims, don't take this the wrong way, but there are many cases where the victim has backtracked, and children can and HAVE been coached in custody battles, teens have screamed abuse on teachers, hell grown women have palyed the victim card as well (Kobe Bryant comes to mind ).

If this show isn't reality, then it shoudn't be touted as such sorry, but these are supposed to be REAL PEOPLE putting their REAL lives out there for all to see, or has the Doc been fooling all of us for all this time ?

Again though, I will reserve further comment until after the show, and I do apologize to the REAL victims, though I do stand by my comments on the polygraph, no matter the results.

I have no tolerance for anyone who victimizes children, some might think so, but I'm usually defending the kids.  Until tommorrow we can't really know, and we still won't really know will we ?

No matter the outcome, this young man's life is ruined, if he is innocent, people will still view him with suspicion, guilty, well the Moderators probably wouldn't want to hear it.  If it was proven the child was coached, an apology with jail time is in order ( YES a child can be COACHED, they don't out and out LIE, but they can be convinced to say what grandma and Mommy want them to).

I'm curious though, who dragged who onto the show ?

I think that he is quilty for the reason...  I don't see where a three old would get that he put a cookie there and ate it.  I am a mother of a 2 yr old, however I would agree her mother if my son told me something like that I would believe him no matter what.  Although I would not stop treatment under any circumstances. 

I think the younger the child the easier to coach them into saying or doing anything.  And a 3 year old would be easy to convice them that something has happened. 

And if it is found to be all a lie just because they don't like this young man then I agree, some jail time is in order here. Making false charges are a serious offense. If indeed this is all a lie...it will be devastating to everyone involved.

You know, I'm not really sure who called to get this on the show. If anyone has that answer please respond.