Message Boards

Topic : 04/04 Did He or Didn't He?

Number of Replies: 383
New Messages This Week: 0
Last Reply On:
Created on : Thursday, March 29, 2007, 12:43:09 pm
Author : DrPhilBoard1
What happens when family members take sides … against each other? Steven Jr. has been accused by his stepmother, Pam, and his stepsister, Tashika, of molesting Tashika's then 3-year-old daughter. Steven Jr. says there's no way he would ever commit such a sick act against a child. His father, Steve, says he believes his son, and the allegations are destroying his marriage and their family. In order to prove his innocence, Steven Jr. agrees to take a polygraph exam. After two hours of testing, will the truth be revealed? Find out the surprising results. And, why does Steven Jr. believe that his family is alleging he committed this crime and turning their backs on him? Will this family get the answers they are looking for and be able to move forward? Talk about the show here.

Find out what happened on the show.

More April 2007 Show Boards.

As of January, 2009, this message board will become "Read Only" and will be closed to further posting. Please join the NEW Dr. Phil Community to continue your discussions, personalize your message board experience, start a blog and meet new friends.

User Mood
Mellow

Message Emote
blank
April 4, 2007, 2:55 pm PDT

04/04 Did He or Didn't He?

Quote From: sunshine303

I agree with you completely!!!   Things seem rather fishy about the mother though.  And really about this whole story.  But the child is the one anyone should be concerned about.  Not Steven, or the marriage or family.  If this really happened to her she needs all the love and support she can get not family bickering and pitty parties.  And even if this didn't happen to her, she is now involved in something that she might start to believe happened and still need counseling for that too. 

 

This family really need to change their focus either way!!!  Steven Jr needs to quit having a pitty party and move on with life!

Please, try to be more empathetic. If you were falsely accused of something so vile, you'd be having a "pity party" too...
 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
blank
April 4, 2007, 3:11 pm PDT

not a malester

i am outraged, to the thought of making this man something that he is not...god forbid that i am wrong..the two women on the show distoyed this mans life without any prof...i believe that child malesters or rapest need to go to jail...but this inocent(as we know it) man needs a chance to at life...and now he is put out to the world that he is a malester...and the two women are just sitting there as if they are so high and mighting and dr.phil had no comments about them...same on you dr.phil...i always believed that you are there for the little people...

 

p.s. love your show(just not this one)

 

signed---outraged

 
User Mood
Worried

Message Emote
upset
April 4, 2007, 3:15 pm PDT

The true victims are the helpless ones

As with any case of abuse or sex offenses, there is no proof when there is no actual physical evidence.  The same is true for women who have been raped or sexually harassed.  People take sides and form opinions of the accused and the accusers.  It is extremely sad and painful to witness.  The reality is that the victim in all of this, regardless of Steven's guilt, is the child.  Without a doubt, the adults are discussing this, debating it, and arguing about this topic in front of her.  Whether or not she was touched inappropriately should not have any bearing on her getting help (a.k.a. therapy).  She is permanently marked now by her family's behavior around this entire incident.  Every event, every relationship, and every emotion is going to be filtered by this circumstance.  I can appreciate the desire to protect this child, but how we handle a crisis and how we respond to a moment will always influence the future.  Whether she was hurt or not, she, and the whole family needs to get therapy to deal with this entire circumstance.  If they continue down the path that they are taking, their actions will cloud their reasons...their persecution will overshadow the safety and well-being of the child.    
 
User Mood
Worried

Message Emote
blank
April 4, 2007, 3:16 pm PDT

sympathy!

Quote From: tstonehouse

 Brandi
Steven, Brooke, and I thank you sincerely. Not many people see our side of the story, and we really do appriciate your support, especially Steven. This has been hard on him, and Brooke.
They are expecting a healthy baby boy at the end of next month.
Thank you again.
Tiffany
as a mother of an innocent chiild that has been accused i hope that we can prove our innocence and i feel for your brother and your family! stay strong and the childs mother and grandmother need their heads examined along with the child should still be incounceling, as should my step daughter but according to her mother it just made the behavior worse! go figure!
 
User Mood
Worried

Message Emote
worried
April 4, 2007, 3:34 pm PDT

Still concerned

I am concerned with the outcome of today's show.  I think that much of the show was spent discussing Steven, Jr. and not the child.  Gut feelings can be wrong and I feel that Pam & Tashika were sent home with no direction.  I'd never before felt frustrated or disappointed after watching a Dr. Phil show, but today was a first.  It really bothered me the way Dr. Phil kept referring to Pam & Tashika as "these two".  I felt he somewhat shifted his view during the show and it became about healing a father / son relationIationship - instead of pursuing truth to the disturbing allegations brought forth.  I know the polygraph test was inconclusive but there MUST be a way to uncover the truth.  I even thought they should seek out a clairvoyant.  Anything.  Something.  This situation is unfortunate and painful not only for Steven, Jr. and Julia, but for the entire family.  I feel Pam & Tashika need to continue their quest for the truth somehow and I would be very pleased if Dr. Phil would help them.
 
User Mood
Worried

Message Emote
worried
April 4, 2007, 3:36 pm PDT

Family Rightfully Concerned

I watched todays show and am not sure if the guy is being truthful. Previous accusations make me concerned and the particulars of what the child said are pretty strange to be made up. However, I noticed the guy had some sort of neurological tick (his head/neck tick).  If my child or nephews ever accused anyone of this sick behavior, I would follow up to the fullest extent and even if it could not be proven, I would never leave this person ALONE with any child ever!!!!
 
User Mood
Worried

Message Emote
blank
April 4, 2007, 3:36 pm PDT

04/04 Did He or Didn't He?

 I am not saying that I think Steven did it.  There is no way of us knowing that.  But I do think that everyone should be worrying about the child a whole lot more and about Steven a whole lot less.  As someone who molested starting at the age of 4, I would be extremely upset if I told my mother that I was molested and named the person and then people did not believe me.  I never told anyone what happened to me until I was in my teens so if the accusations are true I applaud the child for telling.  I think Dr. Phil should have asked about more information about how and why the child named Steven as the molester.
 
User Mood
Mellow

Message Emote
blank
April 4, 2007, 3:41 pm PDT

04/04 Did He or Didn't He?

Quote From: holmgrown

As with any case of abuse or sex offenses, there is no proof when there is no actual physical evidence.  The same is true for women who have been raped or sexually harassed.  People take sides and form opinions of the accused and the accusers.  It is extremely sad and painful to witness.  The reality is that the victim in all of this, regardless of Steven's guilt, is the child.  Without a doubt, the adults are discussing this, debating it, and arguing about this topic in front of her.  Whether or not she was touched inappropriately should not have any bearing on her getting help (a.k.a. therapy).  She is permanently marked now by her family's behavior around this entire incident.  Every event, every relationship, and every emotion is going to be filtered by this circumstance.  I can appreciate the desire to protect this child, but how we handle a crisis and how we respond to a moment will always influence the future.  Whether she was hurt or not, she, and the whole family needs to get therapy to deal with this entire circumstance.  If they continue down the path that they are taking, their actions will cloud their reasons...their persecution will overshadow the safety and well-being of the child.    
I hate to be a picky person..but why can there only be one victim here? I think there are MANY "true" victims in this story.
 
User Mood
Mellow

Message Emote
blank
April 4, 2007, 3:49 pm PDT

04/04 Did He or Didn't He?

Quote From: carrie821

I am concerned with the outcome of today's show.  I think that much of the show was spent discussing Steven, Jr. and not the child.  Gut feelings can be wrong and I feel that Pam & Tashika were sent home with no direction.  I'd never before felt frustrated or disappointed after watching a Dr. Phil show, but today was a first.  It really bothered me the way Dr. Phil kept referring to Pam & Tashika as "these two".  I felt he somewhat shifted his view during the show and it became about healing a father / son relationIationship - instead of pursuing truth to the disturbing allegations brought forth.  I know the polygraph test was inconclusive but there MUST be a way to uncover the truth.  I even thought they should seek out a clairvoyant.  Anything.  Something.  This situation is unfortunate and painful not only for Steven, Jr. and Julia, but for the entire family.  I feel Pam & Tashika need to continue their quest for the truth somehow and I would be very pleased if Dr. Phil would help them.
A "clairvoyant" is even LESS scientifically reliable than a polygraph (as in not at all scientifically reliable) it wouldn't prove anything.
 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
blank
April 4, 2007, 3:54 pm PDT

04/04 Did He or Didn't He?

Quote From: tstonehouse

 Hi,
My name is Tiffany.
I am Steven Jr.'s younger sister.
I am outraged that these allegations have even been made.
For anyone who knows my brother, it's not possible.
I am with my brother 100 percent and if that means that my step-mother will refuse to talk to me, then so be it.
I refuse to stand by and watch my brother's name be taken on National Television and be run into the ground.
He is guilty of nothing.
He loved that little girl like she was his own neice.
My brother is one of the kindest people you would ever meet.
I talk to our father very rarely... I don't see the point in taking my brother on National Television to 'prove he didn't do it'.  If he wanted to prove anything to anyone he should have gone to a private psychologist or something.
I just don't understand why he would do this.
They say that he's ruining their marriage and their family.
But what about OUR family?
My father seems to have no problem with ruining his relationships with his children, he's always so worried about what his wife, Pam, thinks.
It wouldn't suprise me if it was her idea to go on the show in the first place.

Back to my point.
My brother did not do this.
I stand by him.
I will continue to stand by him.
Nothing that anyone says is going to convince me otherwise.

Tiffany
Hi Tiffany, I have never signed up for a message board or responded to anything in my life before and I am an "old doll" of 45, but I just wanted to tell you from the bottom of my heart that your brother should stand tall and proud, he was a real true man on todays show.  That took alot of courage and guts.  I was sad to hear what your dad said to him to make him feel he had to do the show but gheesh if it helps at all now he is in many of out prayers that he gets this behind him and becomes even stronger for it.  May these terrible people who would accuse him of such a thing without any proof or real facts one day realize the great harm they have done to your brother.  My heart cries for him as it was so obvious how much he is suffering and may you all request from the Dr. Phil show that he gets any additional help he may need to put this behind him.  You are a great sister and what a team you make.  Your dad should be ashamed of himself for a number of reasons.  I will continue to keep you all in my prayers and asks others to pray for you as well.  Please tell Steven that he did himself PROUD today and he was the first and best person I have ever saw represent himself.  Hats off to him.  Hugs too!  God Bless you all and I hope you lead happy and healthy lives and maybe one day your Dad will get a brain and come find some smart decent lady like myself instead of a lady who wants to drag a deadend tale on for years and years!!!  What goes around comes around Tiffany, hang strong with your brother and his girlfriend and enjoy that new baby that will bring much happiness and love into your lives. Hugs Tiffany
 
First | Prev | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | Next | Last