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Topic : 08/02 Explosive Anger and Its Aftermath

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(Original Air Date: 04/06/07) Do you know a happy person who, if crossed, will explode in an instant with uncontrollable rage? Intermittent Explosive Disorder may explain why Dr. Phil's guests suddenly lose their temper, break things and even hurt other people. Carrie lives with constant uncertainty. She says her husband, Bob, can be totally calm one minute and be fist-fighting the next. He yells and curses at her, flips off other drivers and hit another man so hard it knocked his eye out; an act of violence that landed him in prison. Where does Bob's anger come from? After Dr. Phil shows Carrie and Bob a video of a previous guest, will Carrie decide to leave the anger prison she's been living in? Then, Traci says her 17-year-old daughter, Melinda, is tearing their family apart. In a matter of seconds, she can go from being a loving daughter and sibling, to throwing blenders and threatening her sister's life, for no apparent reason. Melinda says she's so full of anger that when she gets upset, she feels like she's going to explode. Do her mother and sister deserve the treatment they're getting, or is there something much deeper underlying Melinda's rage? Tell us what you think!

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April 7, 2007, 12:11 am PDT

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I have been dealing with a daughter who in many ways acts exactly like the young girl on the show this evening, My daughter is 25 and extremely explosive. I can not ask her one question without her erupting into a montage of swear words. If I ask how her day was and a typical response might be "What the f----do you care" If I ask how work went, I am being nosy. She tells me that because I gave birth to her that she is entitled to have all her needs be taken care of by both my husband and myself. She often tells me that if I didn't want her I should have never had sex with my husband. Watching this program this evening made me feel very sad and as frustruated as I have been for many years. In my heart I know she doesn't want to be dependent on us for the rest of her life but doesn't seem to have the understanding of how to get out of this mess she has created. She has not held a stead job or stayed in any school long enough to see that she can succeed in life. She was sent to an anger management class when she was 18 but continually tells me that it is everyone elses fault that she is the way she is. My husband and I have both gone to counseling to see if there were some strategies we could implement to try and get her to see how destructive this behavior is. One counselor suggested we use tough love and have her taken away to a camp in the Idaho mountains. Both my husband and I felt that if we did this she would feel as if we had abandoned her and we both feared the consequences of what that might mean for her emotionally. At the time neither of us could resort to this strategy. Some times she seems to want to get it but then the next minute turns around and is just as verbally abusive as always. I fear for her safety all the time.

  Burkluc, You can tell her not ALL her needs.  Just food, basic clothing, shelter and education.  So if she wants upgrades on that she better start saving.

  No one chooses to be born, true, but once they are here they come under the rules of the household they are living in, and if they think they can automatically be rude and aggressive, demanding and foul mouthed, well those things are reserved for REAL royalty in their dealings with lowly servants, and they are much too polite to ever do so.

  If she wants to be the Queen of Sheba and bathe in asses milk then tell her, "No worries Miss Queen, Here's the bucket and there's the ass, start milking."

 

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April 7, 2007, 1:36 am PDT

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I feel like the lady married to the man with IED.  I don't believe in divorce.  My husaband doesn't cuss.  He's taken to baring his teeth at me over the last few years and I finally had it last weekend and brought my fist up.  Dr Phil says we teach people how to treat us but I have noticed he gets nuts at work too.  I wish I could spend some time with Dr. Phil to talk things out.  I went to see a psychologist about depression and she just told me to take it easy on myself this week when I told her what I really need is coaching.  I have to have a clean house because of my asthma and I've been getting nothing done lately.  Just school and nothing else.  My dad died in July and I cried for about 4 months straight.  And now I'm just profoundly sad.
 
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April 7, 2007, 4:47 am PDT

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Since I have just now posted a message, I went to my profile and I see that all my personal information is there.  Can any user on this board see where I live or see my profile? Thank you in advance for any help you can give me. Bonnie
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April 7, 2007, 5:00 am PDT

04/06 Explosive Anger and Its Aftermath

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I was just watching Dr.Phil earlier this evening about the explosive anger.  It was heartbreaking to watch the show because I can relate to both of the guests, not quite as extreme as them.  Still I wished i could have hugged them both.  Both of those guests have become angry over the years because of past events.  I can especially relate to the young girl.  I have an older sister, and growing up I was like that young girl, trying to be an equal with my sister, or feeling less in her eyes just because of the friends she had that I didn't.  The girl on the show felt less than others, and I felt the same way.  As an adult I have had to overcome that, and my heart just broke for that girl.  As an adult I still have some angry tendencies to the point where I want to scream or hit something.  I have tendencies toward mood swings for no reason.  I know people share their stories about getting mad and we can all laugh.  But for these people and myself included it's scary when your moods change so quickly.  For me I feel like when I get mad like I lose all control and usually my anger gets taken out on someone else and it has nothing to do with them.  The feeling of losing control and hurting someone else whether physically, emotionally, or verbally is scary.  Sometimes you can't even see your anger coming.  At least that's how I feel sometimes.  This show made me think about possibly seeking help for myself.
 I commend you for your honesty, I live with a man in denile and he always blames or say he will get help. It is hard to change and adjust but I really do believe it is the best  for everyone. I also think alot of people dont do anything because they dont know what to do . I think we need more guidance , support and options to help all of us and especially cheaper options without insurance in SC it is almost impossible to get help  , I have looked if anyone knows how please let me know.....Good luck you are a good person to show where you are vulnerable and admit you have been there. That was a good show  for all of us........
 
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April 7, 2007, 5:03 am PDT

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I have been dealing with a daughter who in many ways acts exactly like the young girl on the show this evening, My daughter is 25 and extremely explosive. I can not ask her one question without her erupting into a montage of swear words. If I ask how her day was and a typical response might be "What the f----do you care" If I ask how work went, I am being nosy. She tells me that because I gave birth to her that she is entitled to have all her needs be taken care of by both my husband and myself. She often tells me that if I didn't want her I should have never had sex with my husband. Watching this program this evening made me feel very sad and as frustruated as I have been for many years. In my heart I know she doesn't want to be dependent on us for the rest of her life but doesn't seem to have the understanding of how to get out of this mess she has created. She has not held a stead job or stayed in any school long enough to see that she can succeed in life. She was sent to an anger management class when she was 18 but continually tells me that it is everyone elses fault that she is the way she is. My husband and I have both gone to counseling to see if there were some strategies we could implement to try and get her to see how destructive this behavior is. One counselor suggested we use tough love and have her taken away to a camp in the Idaho mountains. Both my husband and I felt that if we did this she would feel as if we had abandoned her and we both feared the consequences of what that might mean for her emotionally. At the time neither of us could resort to this strategy. Some times she seems to want to get it but then the next minute turns around and is just as verbally abusive as always. I fear for her safety all the time.
I am sorry that you are dealing with this because I know as parents we want to have good relationships with our children. I don't know if you are a prayerful person or not but prayer has always gotten me through the tough times with my children. Having said that, it sounds like your daughter has the expectation that everyone is here for her service, she sounds spoiled and manipulative. she knows how to push the right buttons and sounds as if she really pours on the guilt. But she is 25 now and considered an adult (even tho she doesn't act like one) and you can't legally make her do anything so my suggestion is to pray hard for her,  I have seen God change myself and others that I've prayed for from the inside out.  I pray that God gives her the wisdom to get into some counseling first of all  to deal with her issues and pray she will be willing. If I were you, I would not allow her to manipulate any longer by using guilt. Put a stop to that right now and maybe all three of you could go into some family counseling to work these past issues out that she seems to have with a mediator present..My heart goes out to you both and I pray it gets resolved, so you can have peace in your family.
 
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April 7, 2007, 10:14 am PDT

04/06 Explosive Anger and Its Aftermath

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I was just watching Dr.Phil earlier this evening about the explosive anger.  It was heartbreaking to watch the show because I can relate to both of the guests, not quite as extreme as them.  Still I wished i could have hugged them both.  Both of those guests have become angry over the years because of past events.  I can especially relate to the young girl.  I have an older sister, and growing up I was like that young girl, trying to be an equal with my sister, or feeling less in her eyes just because of the friends she had that I didn't.  The girl on the show felt less than others, and I felt the same way.  As an adult I have had to overcome that, and my heart just broke for that girl.  As an adult I still have some angry tendencies to the point where I want to scream or hit something.  I have tendencies toward mood swings for no reason.  I know people share their stories about getting mad and we can all laugh.  But for these people and myself included it's scary when your moods change so quickly.  For me I feel like when I get mad like I lose all control and usually my anger gets taken out on someone else and it has nothing to do with them.  The feeling of losing control and hurting someone else whether physically, emotionally, or verbally is scary.  Sometimes you can't even see your anger coming.  At least that's how I feel sometimes.  This show made me think about possibly seeking help for myself.

Hey there Carlton and anyone whom finds themselves reading this.  I can relate to much of what you are saying although the FACTORS and TRIGGERS that set chaotic events in motion most likely differ.  I have borderline personality disorder, GAD, and ptsd.  These illnesses in my mind are all related to immense trauma I experienced in my life as a child and harbored with me and carried for year after year.  My diagnosed illnesses IN MY OPINION were devoloped in my effort to cope with the sexual and physical abuse as well as abandonment issues.

 

Some came as I endured the trauma others surfaced as post effects.  I was unable to recognize my "traits" and some really horrible "learned behavior.  I walked around dwelling on what used to be.  How It was'nt right , I got the raw deal.  I was lucky enough to have a close friend I met help me to recognize that my behavior did contain patterns.  That there were things that would upset me.  That instead of immediately voicing it ..I would hold it in then blow up.  Then there is the other side of things with the borderline, the mania, the questioning of who you are etc etc

 

I do not feel violent to the point I would touch another person or throw my belongings or hit a wall..I feel angry and tears fall.  so I cannot speak about the anger issue except to say I have seen a lot of it as a kid and it solved very little.  It is righteous to be angry but it is important to do something productive with the anger.  If you haven't seeked help I would say "What do you have to lose?"  It took me from age 16 when I ran away from a state run group home to the age of 25.  9 long years to go and talk to someone.  To be willing to open up myself to the insight of others.

 

I still trance out , I still feel brief lapses where I am ready to go off the deep end but I have made good progress and hope to continue to do so.  Whatever emotions we feel, we feel.  We can even know why we feel them in your case a lot of it resorts to your sister.  A lot of mine relates to many people.  I came to see myself as others saw me and the important thing is to know you for who you are , to be true to who you are , and above all else lastly I must say this very hard lesson I have seen ring true.. People are just people, they are human , they will at one time or another most likely fail you in some way , expect to face letdowns , hope for the best, put your faith in The Lord and yourself and I believe we all have a particular business to be about here in the world.

 

What happens in our lives may not always be convienent but it can be insightful, I believe it is our "business" to never stop trying to change, impact the things around us which enflame our hearts wether the heart is enflamed by passion or pain.  Anger can also be a great motivator.

Best of luck to You Carlton !

 

 
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April 7, 2007, 10:15 am PDT

Get help or get out.

 
 
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April 7, 2007, 11:01 am PDT

another disorder?

You've gotta be kidding me?!

IED.. intermittent explosive disorder.. give me a break...  do we need to call everything a disorder..just to make it a disease so we can get a drug for it.. come on.. how about just a bad temper to the extreme...

we have generalized anxiety disorder..when we can't figure out what in the heck is wrong with you..

we have seasonal affects disorder... when the wind changes direction you get blah...

 

all these terms make psychology a joke!

 

 

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April 7, 2007, 1:08 pm PDT

Angry Daughter

I only saw the 2nd half of this show but it was the right half for me to see.  My 13 year old step daughter has gotten progressively more angry and defiant over the years.  According to family members, she was angry as a baby!  She has been in and out of several mental hospitals and has even been placed in a restrictive school but to no avail.  Now we are looking at putting her in a locked mental health facility and it is breaking our hearts.  We also don't see any hope for things getting better for her and are afraid that her life will only get more chaotic or worse as she gets older.
 
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April 7, 2007, 3:32 pm PDT

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I found myself getting more&more angry listening to this *$#! explain away his aggression. I could have hugged Dr phil when he explained to this guy that he pulls some of his tantrums because he CAN. I was married to a boy like that and he  beat my father to a pulp while I was giving birth. I agree that this wife had better get away. Its not that he wouldn't hurt her, He just hasn't done it YET. As time goes on she will stop looking for excuses and making allowances for this guy.God, I feel sorry for her!
It really makes me laugh when people like this don't know what they are talking about. Bob is a very awesome person...and so is Carrie.  I should know.  I was on the show with them. I also spent the whole day at the Lawlis PNP center in Dallas with them.  You can say your opinion, now I'm just saying mine. 
 
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