Topic : 08/13 The Dr. Phil House: Saving Grace

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Created on : Friday, April 06, 2007, 11:30:39 am
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(Original Air Date: 04/09/07) Two-and-a-half years ago, Cat and Todd left their 6-year-old daughter, Grace, with Todd’s parents for the night. Little did they know, it would be the night that changed their family forever. Grace’s grandfather, Steve, molested her, and after Grace told her grandmother, Ann, about it, Ann failed to report it. After confronting Todd’s parents, Cat and Todd pressed charges. Steve served eight months in jail and is now a registered sex offender. Neither he nor Ann has seen Cat, Todd or their grandchildren in over two years, but they desperately want to put their family back together. Steve says he’s ready to do what he can to heal his family, but Todd and Cat are not convinced. What does Steve say is his reason for stealing Grace's innocence? Dr. Phil meets with the grandparents and gets to the truth of what really happened, while Todd and Cat watch from behind a two-way mirror. Will the unvarnished truth be too much for them to handle? Can this fractured family ever heal and move on? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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April 9, 2007, 6:34 pm PDT

I do NOT like the term "sick" being used

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I watched the show today and like many others on here I too was absolutely sick to my stomach. I cried as I listened to what that little girl had to go through and I grew very angry when the grandfather and grandmother talked like it was nothing. He should be put away for life and the grandmother too cause if you ask me she is just as guilty. And whats up with Grace's dad, something is definitely not right with him, he sheds tears for his molester of a father, but shows no emotion for his daughter?? Something is WRONG there.... I was just totally disgusted. We live in one sick world. My heart goes out to everyone who had to go through the pain of being abused, I was there too, I understand. God Bless Little Grace.

I really dislike the fact that people use the term "sick" to discribe this disturbing and twisted behaviour because as we all well know abusers cannot be "cured" therefore how can they be "sick" It is choices that a warped and twisted mind makes.  I find it truly unfortunate that in a way society propagates this. My heart goes out to all you survivors out there!

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April 9, 2007, 6:35 pm PDT

04/09 The Dr. Phil House: Saving Grace

I BEING AN ADULT WAS IN A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO.  MY HUSBAND'S FATHER AND I HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP, FROM THE FIRST TIME I EVER MEET HIM. UNLIKE HIS MOTHER AND I, I THINK SHE HAS ALWAYS FELT LIKE I'VE TAKEN HER SON AWAY. MY HUSBAND AND I WILL BE MARRIED TWELVE YEARS THIS YEAR, AND HAVE BEEN TOGETHER ALMOST FIFETEEN. BUT ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, ABOUT A MONTH BEFORE CHRISTMAS MY HUSBANDS FATHER STARTED CALLING ME WITH SOME VERY OUT OF THE WAY PHONE CALLS, NOT AT FIRST, BUT LIKE THE SECOND OR THIRD CALL STARTED GETTING BAD. LIKE I SAID WE HAD ALWAYS BEEN CLOSE, AND HE NEVER DID ANYTHING OUT OF THE WAY. BUT EACH CALL STARTED GETTING WORSE AND WORSE. THE STORY IS VERY LONG AND VERY UPSETTING, BUT HE WANTED TO MEET ME AT A MOTEL, AND HE WANTED ME TO DRESS UP IN LINGERIE, AND I THINK YOU KINDA GET THE POINT,. I IMMEDIATELY TOLD MY HUSBAND, HE EVEN HEARD SOME OF THE PHONE CALLS. I TOLD MY HUSBANDS BROTHERS AND SISTERS, BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, I EVEN TOLD MY HUSBANDS MOTHER, BUT THEY EVEN BLEW IT OFF AND ACTED LIKE KNOWTHING EVER HAPPENED. IT GOT TO THE POINT WHERE MY FATHER IN LAW CAME INTO MY HOUSE EARLY ONE MORNING WHILE I WAS SLEEPING, AND MY HUSBAND HAD FELL ASLEEP ON THE COUCH AFTER HE PUT OUR GIRLS ON THE BUS. HE WALKED RIGHT PAST MY HUSBAND AND CAME UPSTAIRS TO MY ROOM, AND ASKED ME HOW I WOULD LIKE TO BE MOLESTED IN MY OWN BED, NEEDLESS TO SAY I HAVE LEFT OUT MANY DETAILS, BUT WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE EXACT SAME THING RIGHT NOW.MY HUSBAND HAS CONFRONTED HIM, BUT HE HAS NEVER CAME RIGHT OUT AND SAID HE DID ANYTHING. BUT MY HUSBAND AND HIS FAMILY HAVE ACTED LIKE NOTHING HAS HAPPENED AT TIMES AND THEY ALL ACT LIKE I SHOULD JUST FORGET EVERYTHING AND JUST GO BACK TO THE WAY THINGS WERE. I CAN'T ALTHOUGH I WAS NOT PHISICALLY RAPED, I WAS MENTALLY, AND TRUST ME IT'S JUST AS BAD. I STILL DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH SITUATION.

 
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April 9, 2007, 6:38 pm PDT

04/09 The Dr. Phil House: Saving Grace

Watching the show brought back so many memories from what happened to me. The part that stood out for me was how Grace started beating herself up and believing that she was ugly, etc. That is exactly how I am. I was molested by my brother for four years, well over 25 times. I initiated sometimes, but people say that is because it was a natural response. However, I didn't even know what was going on because I was only ten. My therapist wants me to tell my mom, but I really don't know if that would be a good idea. I mean, I saw how Grace's mom was so upset and traumatized by what happened, and I could never do that to my mom.
 
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April 9, 2007, 6:38 pm PDT

Are you kidding me!!!!!????

 What the hell ?  My husband and I are sitting here absolutely speechless !  Angry as hell too!  Are these so-called grandparents missing something?  Like morals, decency and integrity?  I have witnessed more emotion on a houseplant !  The apple hasn't fallen too far, the son seems to be lacking the same. They (so-called grandparents) sit there so casual and removed as if what they did required only a band-aid.  I wanted to turn the televison off but I could not turn away.  This little girl will feel the aftershock of this horrible event for the rest of her life!  He got one year in PRISON (yes grammaw, PRISON, not just "away") and Grace gets LIFE in her own prison.  I take exception that this creep was allowd to wear make-up.  To protect who?  I say expose him for the predator that he is, so that every parent will recognize him and save thier own children.  CAT, DO NOT TAKE YOUR EYES OFF OF THIS CHILD!
 
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April 9, 2007, 6:42 pm PDT

04/09 The Dr. Phil House: Saving Grace

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I was that little girl once.  When I was 5 my cousin molested me.  I pride myself on not crying but I have cried through most of this show.  Im a senior citizen now and I never told anyone until a few years ago.  However I remember every detail and it has affected every part of my life. 

Been there Honey!  I guess I'm a senior too...52 years old and only recently (within the last 10 years) came to terms with it.  You never really get over it, just learn how to live with it, right?  But it affected every aspect of my life...Now I need to move on.  Life is too short.

PS  I will NEVER forget or forgive my molester..Just doing what I need, to survive!

Love you (and understand!)!

 
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April 9, 2007, 6:44 pm PDT

04/09 The Dr. Phil House: Saving Grace

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I think youre right there.  Even if grandma/grandpa went thru rehab or therapy (or whatever the treatment is for offenders) and were "cured", they should still be kept away from the child.  The child should have a choice whether or not she wants to pursue a relationship with them as an adult.  Right now, it's not safe for her, and subjecting her to her abuser is abuse in and of itself. 

 

I also agree that the father's POV of "normality" is more than a little skewed.  I'd imagine that he has conflicting feelings about all of this.  Although, he has to do whatever he can to protect the child, even if it means cutting his parents out of his life (or at least his daughter's).   The primary concern is for Grace and her health and development.

And the good thing is her parents did prevent contact, even if the father was strangely inappropriately conflicted. So, even though his priorities were out of whack he DID protect his child from his parents.

And you and I see perfectly eye to eye on the grandparents. Once she's like 18 or 21 or something then she can decide if she wants to go that route, but she's not grown up enough to decide that for herself.

I wanted to see my molester. He was my half brother, I cared for him as children often do with their abusers. Unfortunately my parents let that happen.
 
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April 9, 2007, 6:47 pm PDT

04/09 The Dr. Phil House: Saving Grace

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There is no known genetic link to pedophilia. I think you are being a bit harsh on this father.  I think he needed a harsh dose of reality to put his priorities in order. I think this grandmother needs the same thing. Although I think the grandmother has ruined and discarded her chance to be in Grace's life, the father has not.

I am not saying that Grace's father could/would/will be a molester.  I understand that there is no genetic link for pedophelia.  However, I know from my own experiences, my great-grandfather molested by mother, was known around town by women not in the family as being a pervert, and one of his sons and granddaughters molested me!  There were just too many signs along the way that showed a history of incest in that family.  It was passed down from generation to generation. 

 

My point is, molestors seem to be the victims of molestation.  Since I had it happen to me though, I can say whole heartedly that we truly have FREE WILL!  The devil doesn't take over suddenly.  A person may feel the devil drawing him in, but that person still has a choice to make...either to do what was done to them, or to not let the next generation be hurt and refuse to become the abuser themselves.

 

 

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April 9, 2007, 6:51 pm PDT

Oh, Sweet Child

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Watching the show brought back so many memories from what happened to me. The part that stood out for me was how Grace started beating herself up and believing that she was ugly, etc. That is exactly how I am. I was molested by my brother for four years, well over 25 times. I initiated sometimes, but people say that is because it was a natural response. However, I didn't even know what was going on because I was only ten. My therapist wants me to tell my mom, but I really don't know if that would be a good idea. I mean, I saw how Grace's mom was so upset and traumatized by what happened, and I could never do that to my mom.
YOU are the one who was traumatized. Do tell your mother, when you feel strong enough. You could have her come to a session with you and your therapist so you will have someone you know believes in you to lean on and to guide the conversation. Your Mom may suspect this already, but has been afraid to ask/know. She may need this information to help her make other decisions.
 
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April 9, 2007, 6:51 pm PDT

DEVIL POSSESSED MY ASS

I JUST CANNOT BELIEVE THE PEOPLE ON TODAY'S SHOW. YOU KNOW THEY SAY WILL TURN STORIES AROUND, BUT THE GRANDFATHER WAS WORSE THAN A WOMAN TODAY. POSSESSED BY THE DEVIL? THAT'S THE BIGGEST LOAD OF BULL I'VE EVER HEARD! EVER! BEING A MOM OF A 4 MONTH OLD, I THINK...NO I KNOW...THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO PRY ME OFF OF THAT MAN. THE DAD SHOWS NOTHING FOR HIS DAUGHTER...BUT CRIED OVER HIS DAD! EVEN IF MY FATHER WOULD HAVE DONE THAT, I WOULDN'T CRY FOR HIM. THAT POOR LITTLE GIRL. AND THE GRANDMA! OMG! DOES SHE NOT UNDERSTAND THAT HER HUSBAND HAD "SEXUAL RELATIONS" WITH THEIR GRANDDAUGHTER? I WOULD HAVE DIVORCED THAT MAN IN A HEART BEAT! THESE PEOPLE NEED MORE THAN PRISON TIME...THEY NEED TO BE PLACED IN A PHYSC WARD...FOR LIFE! KAT, IF YOU HAPPEN TO READ THIS...YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, AND MOST OF ALL GRACE, ARE IN MY PRAYERS. MAY GOD HELP YOU OVER COME THIS TRIAL!
 
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April 9, 2007, 6:52 pm PDT

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Quote From: dhschick22

Watching the show brought back so many memories from what happened to me. The part that stood out for me was how Grace started beating herself up and believing that she was ugly, etc. That is exactly how I am. I was molested by my brother for four years, well over 25 times. I initiated sometimes, but people say that is because it was a natural response. However, I didn't even know what was going on because I was only ten. My therapist wants me to tell my mom, but I really don't know if that would be a good idea. I mean, I saw how Grace's mom was so upset and traumatized by what happened, and I could never do that to my mom.
I understand it will be hard for your mom to accept and acknowlege, but in the end it is what is better for yourself.  You may still love your brother but what he did is wrong and know that you will not be his only victim. Please know this, telling your mother is the first step you need to do.  If you wont do this for yourself, do it for him who seriously needs help and counseling, maybe there is an underlying reason that caused him to be this way or that made him believe this behavior is acceptable. This about you sweetheart, you are the victim here, and you need to concentrate on yourself to get better and to get past this as much as possible.
 

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