Topic : 08/13 The Dr. Phil House: Saving Grace

First off I like to say that the grandfather should never see or talk to that child or any other child!! The grandmother should not be able to see her either till she finally gets a grip on the situation. I can not believe that in over two years she still doesn't get!!! I find her more guilty than her sick husband. One for the obvious, not telling the parents and getting her out of the home immediately, but for getting upset at her own son for calling the police! I couldn't believe my ears when she said,"... we could of handled this with in the family"!!!!!!!

In addition, I think there is more to the grandfathers story that maybe no one yet knows or will ever know. I can not believe that in his 62 years he has not done something like this before. Either to another family member or to a stranger. His statement about how "she liked", or " I never thought she would tell", makes me think he has gotten away with this behavior before and I urge that person(s) to come forward. That 8 month jail time is a joke!! This girl and her family are going to suffer in some way for the rest of their lives. Obviously from watching the show he doesn't get it, he didn't even seem sorry for what he did!!!! Another reason why I think he has done this before.

Dear Dr Phil,

I work part time and when I have to work, I tape your shows. I find you to be so intelligent and on the money with issues. I started watching your show after work tonight ( at 12:45 AM ) on Saving Grace. ALOT of what you said hit home for me personally since I was molested at an early age by my Grandfather ( I wont call him Grandpa because he dont deserve that title ). He not only molested ME but other family  members! ( LONG STORY ). HE NEVER SPENT ONE DAY IN JAIL or was told to the authorities!! You stated that Graces Grandmother should have protected her because after all Grace told her it happened and yet she covered it up. My family never sent my Grandfather to jail because they thought if my uncle knew he would literally KILL him! He was finally told after my Grandfather passed away. Naturally he was mad  to say the least  which is one of the feelings he felt I am sure.

I am glad that you had Grace's parents in another room actually listening to what REALLY happened to poor Grace, the TRUTH. I found it amazing how he could claim that the DEVIL made him do it, and that NOW he is a born again Christian. Well let me say this, a BORN again CHRISTIAN would ADMIT his fault, REPENT and ask for FORGIVENESS to all that he has hurt include Christ himself and not put on this poor me, I didnt do it the devil did!!! What CRAP! YOU Dr. Phil really SEE through people and that is why I love your show, not to mention that I learn from you, Thank you!

Dr Phil I also noticed that his wife was holding his hand through the entire show, how disguesting is that, what denial she is in herself. I would NEVER let Grace see her Grandparents, either one of them since they cannot own up to what they each did to her!

Another thing I want to point out Dr Phil is that this is a LIFE changing thing for the victim!! I have forgiven my Grandfather after years of therapy, however it at times still affects my realtionships today and it certainly affected my realtionships in the past.

I am looking forward to watching part 2 and having Grace tell her story, we all have one. Unfortunately there is so many people out in the world that have been molested in one way or another ( and YES it IS sex even without penetration!!) and are either afraid or STUFF the feelings inside and TRY to go on with life.

I also feel that he SHOULD indeed register as a sex offender and that he really had no right to hide his apearance, we NEED to know what these people look like.

Keep up the great job Dr Phil.

SweetSherrie

...when goons like this try to excuse their behavior with religious jargon like possessed, devil made them.

And then they have the utter gall to decide that their supreme being (like they had a direct email from him/her) forgives them or even that they just "accept" their supreme being (like they were atheists when they raped the child) wipes it all away,

Look, I believe in God, but they should stop using their relationship or lack of as an excuse. Even assuming that they know, "God forgives them," according to my relgion (I'm Jewish) they can only be forgiven  by God for sins against God, and not for sins against another person. For that kind of forgiveness they gotta fess up that what they did was wrong and ask forgiveness from the victim.

I had a hard time watching the show but made myself watch it cause I was an abused child and then in my marriage. I guess I am still trying to figure out what makes people think they have such a right to someone's body like that. Why they need that control over another human being. I was so controlled and believed for years it was all my fault. My father touched me and then my step-father. I was in and out of foster homes til I went and got emancipated at 18. I will have scars for the rest of my life from what the abuse caused. The one thing this little girl has going for her is two good parents who are they for her. I understand the parents wanting to get their family back together but I don't see that happening or in the best interest of the child. The grandfather will do it again. My step-father had six months of therapy while I was sent to foster home, came back and he tried to do it again. I was 15 then and old enough to run away. I was charged with being an unruly child, spent a night in jail, and never looked back again. I lost my mother over it, she sided with him, and then she died in my senior year, after finding out that I told her the truth about him.  My step-father done all this and I blame him for my mother's death in a round about way. When she found out that I told her the truth, 3 yrs prior, she died of a massive heart attack that night. My step-father blamed it on his alcoholism. My mother was a very naiive person and not a strong woman to take care of herself, I can't blame her. The one thing I do blame her for is the fact that I long for a mother now. I raised 3 kids and there were lots of times I wished to have had a mother to call or calling someone mom. I feel I got the short end of the stick and I am a very private person because of it I think. I don't feel whole or normal for the most part. I find myself very sad at times when I long for that kind of a relationship that I was cheated out of. I was raped of my innocence and then he took my family away from me. No one said that life was fair and it isn't. I feel very sorry for what this pervert done to this family. If the grandmother loves her son and granddaughter then she better wake up and see how things really are in her household before it is too late and she finds herself all alone some day, yearning to have some kind of family helping her in her golden years.

I actually wanted to vomit watching this episode. But thank God for it. I have never had this much  insight into a molester ways. The more we know about how these people operate, the more we can protect our children.

And ONLY 8 months in county lock up!?!  I am geting so sick of these pedophiles geting such lax sentences. I don't want to hear about another Polly Klaas or Jessica Lunsford. It's got to end. How many more children have to pay with their lives before people wake up and do something about this?

And as a devout Christian I have to add this since it was brought up on the show. Yes, in the Christian faith we believe in the existence of satan and demons. The devil is the master at luring and deceiving. But at the end of the day, we recongnize that we have free will, the choice to say no to the devil. I am tired of people professing their faith in God and using backsliding as a reasonable excuse for their sin. Also in the Christian faith, we are taught to know that although we sin and may ask for forgiveness, that we may not be freed of all repercussions of what that sin caused. Like in this pedophile's case, loosing his family. A person who recognizes what he has done would realize it would be unacceptable to have a future relationship with this child. God says to forgive, but He also says to not be a fool. And it would be foolish to trust a pedophile.

I feel awful for that pedophile's wife. She definitely was wrong for her part in it and probably should have gone to jail for it too. I just don't think she can even face what's right in front of her. Her facade is falling apart. She wants to believe so bad that this is just a small avoidable problem. She's holding on tight to a fantasy. I will be praying for her because what's happened is going to hit and hard. I will also be praying for this child and her parents. I know how bad just watching this episode made me want to vomit, but to have to actually live it. I can't even imagine. God bless 'em.