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Topic : 08/13 The Dr. Phil House: Saving Grace

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(Original Air Date: 04/09/07) Two-and-a-half years ago, Cat and Todd left their 6-year-old daughter, Grace, with Todd’s parents for the night. Little did they know, it would be the night that changed their family forever. Grace’s grandfather, Steve, molested her, and after Grace told her grandmother, Ann, about it, Ann failed to report it. After confronting Todd’s parents, Cat and Todd pressed charges. Steve served eight months in jail and is now a registered sex offender. Neither he nor Ann has seen Cat, Todd or their grandchildren in over two years, but they desperately want to put their family back together. Steve says he’s ready to do what he can to heal his family, but Todd and Cat are not convinced. What does Steve say is his reason for stealing Grace's innocence? Dr. Phil meets with the grandparents and gets to the truth of what really happened, while Todd and Cat watch from behind a two-way mirror. Will the unvarnished truth be too much for them to handle? Can this fractured family ever heal and move on? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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April 16, 2007, 12:01 pm PDT

Thanks for responding

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 i have to agree with you on our country needs to be alot rougher. as with u my daughter was molested by her father when she was little up until last known date was jan20th 2006. my daughter is 8 and  they right now have her on zoloft which still dont help with the dreams she has. yes she has major stomach cramps not to the point of throwing up yet... but she does want to come home alot from shool she has been getting in trouble alot at school.DCFS indicated the man, the investigateing detctive said he was postitive he done it,councler said  with out a doubt yes it happend,and 2 dr's said yes  with out a doubt it happend and also casa said with out a doubt during the foreinsic interview that it had happend. well our lovely states attorney dont want to do ne thing  because my daughters story  keeps changeing... her dad had  told her he put something in her ear so he could hear her if she said ne thing  so i had to take her to the doctor to reasure her that was not true  but yet still nothing is being done no help in getting this sick man off the streets,he is around children everyday babby sitting  acting like life is just fine while my daughter is going threw hell. so i do understand ur pain and i  hope it does get better for u,i hope and pray that things dont turn that way for my daughter but when they feel that the athoritys dont care why not and when the man person in their life has betrayed them in the most horrific way possible i sit back and think how would i react. if u would ever like to talk please feel free to email me or messenger me anytime.

You and I are going through the same thing, it seems, and I appreciate your response.  I will most certainly be praying for you and your daughter. 

 

Each day, the pain is there for our kids, and it's so difficult to see them suffer emotionally and physically.  Their molesters have no hearts, feelings or emotions and might as well be dead, for inside them is absolutely nothing but meanness and the devil!  The only thought that makes me get through each day is the Truth they will face when they meet God!  Only He can pour vengenance upon their rotten and damned souls and the rotten and damned souls of Grace's grandfather and grandmother!  They will pay for ALL the pain they have inflicted and ALL the misery they have caused, and that is good enough for me!  And, we won't see them in Heaven! 

 

 

 

 
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April 16, 2007, 12:12 pm PDT

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From the voice of a victim..........

 

I was regularly molested over an extended period of time by a close member of the family.  I can tell you honestly I don't give one crap about how the perpetrator, his wife and their son is feeling about the loss of "family".  For me, further contact would have been unimaginable.  Grace is very young and may not fully understand how she should feel.  She has been shocked into a world she should/does know nothing about.  She is likely being further assaulted by the questions of well meaning family,  friends,  doctors,  psycologists, lawyers, etc.   The fact that adults have turned this into a nationwide circus side show makes me physically ill.  For Grace, the full impact of the incident and the events surrounding it may not be felt for some time yet.  Only she will be able to decide if reuniting is ever possible. Until that day her parents must protect her and shield her.  Court order or not.  If her father cannot do that......shame on him.

 

 
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April 16, 2007, 12:23 pm PDT

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Oh please.  Spare me your Bible quoting to defend and minimize!

Exactly how much of the show DID you watch?  From the very begining it spoke of how this sick woman covered up her molester/abuser husbands actions and STILL IS. 

Youre a Christian?  Did you miss the part in the Bible where Jesus spoke of the horror of hurting a child?  Of how it would be better for someone to hang a rock around their necks and drown then to hurt an innocent child?  Missed that part of your saviors teachings too, did ya? 

 Figures.

 

  From what I saw of the show The child didn't say anything until bath time and the grandmother was in dis-belief  that her husband would do something like that. 

 

  We had one here two years ago that just now came to trial and the mother didn't report it she talked to the dad  later the next day and this wasn't someone they knew she saw it happen she was in dis-belief and he didn't get arrested for it.    If its really hard for some one you don't know and see.  What it would be like for someone you do know and don't see?

 

   In the show I heard  the parents talked to the grandparents and the child told the parents. I did not hear the part where the child came back to the house after she told her grandmother and the abuse continued under her grandmothers and parents knowlege.  As far as I know nothing happened to the child after she told the grandmother and the grandmother knew nothing of it before the child said anything. I just dont see where anyone would think it was her fault that her husband abused the granddaugher.

 

  Which passage is that " it would be better for someone to hang a rock around their necks and drown then to hurt an innocent child" I remember "thou shalt not kill." and besides the grandmother,  Todd doesn't seem to want to disolve ties with his father and wants to forgive him or why would they even be there.  Would you  tie one around his neck too?

 
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April 16, 2007, 12:37 pm PDT

Saving Grace

  I have never posted anything for a talk show before but I just cant help myself.  Graces Grandpa is sexually attracted to children and should NEVER be allowed children in his vicinity for the rest of his life. There is no  amount of quality time with Dr.Phil that  will change anything about this man. You like what you like.  I am married and fully attracted to men - that would be like me waking up tomorrow and saying "today I like women"  that just wont happen because I cant help that I'm attracted to men.  I dont know what the heck is wrong with Graces Dad - how can he not throttle his Dad!?!  I dont know why they are on this show. I dont understand what they want to discuss. There should be no discussion he should have " I like to mess with kids"tattooed across his face to let the world know what a sick and disgusting man he is.  That must be so hard for Grace's Mom - but really what the hell is she doing on the show?  That little girls life should NOT be exposed in this way.  The Grandpa should be put to death or put away period because he is a danger to our children and HIS SEXUAL PREFERENCE WILL NEVER CHANGE - no matter how much talk or therapy.  I'm just disgusted with this particular topic.Exploting little girls - this world is a really sick place.
 
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April 16, 2007, 12:43 pm PDT

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My point exacly.

People learn from their mistakes (most of them). My dad molested me when I was 4 and has he done it again? No he hasn't because he has learned from that. And I think that Steve is one of those who will learn from this mistake.

I'm sorry but what did your Dad learn?Not to touch you? That sounds ridiculous. Maybe he stopped touching you - but I dont doubt some other little person took your place.  Your Dad has a sickness - I'm curious - what happened to change him?  THEY DONT CHANGE THEY DONT CHANGE THEY DONT CHANGE
 
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April 16, 2007, 1:20 pm PDT

8 months in jail...give me a break..

So Grampa gets 8 months in jail..big deal, little Grace has to have those sick moments imbedded in her brain for the rest of her life...I WAS Grace at age 11 and let me tell you that I still have nightmares, and feel the physical pain...It takes a lot for me to be able to "shake" the emotional distress I feel when the moments decide to creep back. Which they did when I saw the preview for the show. I had a really hard time watching the show but being a mom now of two beautiful kids I made myself watch it even though I was sick to my stomach.

If I were Cat, I'd have a long hard chat with my husband who can cry for a molester but not for his own little girl who's world was shattered and her innocence was crushed. I trust no one when it comes to my kids, and I dont' think I ever will. I think that even though I'm very protective of my kids, I think being a survivor will help me be more alert to the signs. At least I hope so.

 
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April 16, 2007, 2:30 pm PDT

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Yes I do. That should be up to Grace to decide.  I realize she is only 6 so would probably need to be done with court supervision because here it is the molesters that aren't allowed to see the children and not the other way around.
You think that if a 6 year old is molested by STRANGERS she should get to have a relationship with them too? You cannot be serious!!!!


 
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April 16, 2007, 2:32 pm PDT

Oh My God.

Oh wow, i couldn't imagine the pain that grace is going through, like honestly, i have never been sexually assaulted, but i am Terrified of it for some reason, and i don't know why, i have had many nightmares about this, and i have had feelings that some guy was in my room, about to assault me, and i can't get over these feelings. i have also had feelings about being killed, or people i know being killed. and these are scary things to think about, let alone going through!
 
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April 16, 2007, 2:33 pm PDT

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  From what I saw of the show The child didn't say anything until bath time and the grandmother was in dis-belief  that her husband would do something like that. 

 

  We had one here two years ago that just now came to trial and the mother didn't report it she talked to the dad  later the next day and this wasn't someone they knew she saw it happen she was in dis-belief and he didn't get arrested for it.    If its really hard for some one you don't know and see.  What it would be like for someone you do know and don't see?

 

   In the show I heard  the parents talked to the grandparents and the child told the parents. I did not hear the part where the child came back to the house after she told her grandmother and the abuse continued under her grandmothers and parents knowlege.  As far as I know nothing happened to the child after she told the grandmother and the grandmother knew nothing of it before the child said anything. I just dont see where anyone would think it was her fault that her husband abused the granddaugher.

 

  Which passage is that " it would be better for someone to hang a rock around their necks and drown then to hurt an innocent child" I remember "thou shalt not kill." and besides the grandmother,  Todd doesn't seem to want to disolve ties with his father and wants to forgive him or why would they even be there.  Would you  tie one around his neck too?

The grandfather said he would DO IT AGAIN if GIVEN THE CHANCE...

Why are you so hard up to have this little girl be around people who ripped her life apart?
 
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April 16, 2007, 2:37 pm PDT

true?

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I'm sorry but what did your Dad learn?Not to touch you? That sounds ridiculous. Maybe he stopped touching you - but I dont doubt some other little person took your place.  Your Dad has a sickness - I'm curious - what happened to change him?  THEY DONT CHANGE THEY DONT CHANGE THEY DONT CHANGE
Well this is a difficult thing to talk about, everyone has there believes about if they change or not, truthfully, i think that they don't FULLY learn. like if they were stupid enough to do it again, because they have disgusting sexual feelings for there daughter or even granddaughter, then they are probably stupid enough to do it again. i would NEVER trust my kid with someone that molested them NEVERRR 
 
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