Topic : 06/29 Husbands Ask Dr. Phil

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Created on : Friday, April 06, 2007, 11:37:03 am
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(Original Air Date: 04/10/07) Dr. Phil talks to husbands who want to set their wives straight! Shane’s dream has always been to be a stuntman, and he can’t believe he now gets paid to do what he loves. But his wife, Marlo, says stunt performing is too dangerous, and the time has come for him to grow up. Is it too late for Shane to play Evel Knievel now that he’s a husband and a father? Then, Jeremy says he’s married, not dead, and he can’t help but notice attractive women. His wife, Kelly, however, says he should only have eyes for her, and they fight all the time over the issue. Can Kelly get a handle on her insecurities before they destroy her marriage? Next, Todd says his wife, Kim, is driving their family nuts with her paranoia about germs. She throws away her kids’ dirty clothes, follows her family around with antibacterial wipes and even wipes down strangers’ kids if they get too close! What is behind Kim’s fear? Plus, can a young couple dealing with infidelity gain back the trust? Talk about the show here.

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April 9, 2007, 9:12 pm PDT

SO WHAT

HEY my thought is ...It's ok to look but damn better not touch
 
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April 10, 2007, 3:33 am PDT

I agree with what you say

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Kelly's situation - My take.

I believe firmly that all human beings notice and even observe attractive members of the opposite sex.  However, some do so innocently, discreetly and with respect for their partners and others do so in a very offensive, blatant, even obsessive way that clearly demonstrates a lack of respect for their mate.  I am very much in love with a man whom I trust, respect and admire. I am 98% positive that he will not stray. That said, I often feel disrespected and offended at the oogling and staring that he engages in when I am with him.  I agree men will be men, but there's also a time and a place for such indulgences and that time is not when your lady is at your side.  The other night in a restaurant, as I leaned in to kiss him, he was actually gazing around me to check out the rear view of a lady nearby.  I find no humor in this, nor in his denial of the obvious. His style is described by all who observe this behavior as "staring", not "glancing".  He is literally distracted to the point of interrupted conversations. I have yet to discuss this with a woman who does not feel his excessively wandering eye is absolutely rude. Additionally, his looks are so obvious and targeted that many of his "objects" would be uncomfortable being looked at in such a way.  I have shared my feelings with him and his behavior is not modified. If my feelings are dismissed, what do we really have??  I'm to a point where I enjoy myself more when socializing without him so I don't have to deal with it at all. Kelly's  husband simply needs to exert a bit of self-control and do his drooling on his own time. A pre-pubescent boy may be able to excuse this behavior, but not a grown man who long ago should have learned to control his impulses and urges. I love my partner and I hope through communication that we will find a happy medium with regard to this issue - its a work in progress and I feel we'll meet with success in time.

There is a big difference between discreetly checking someone out and leering, ogling or staring at someone.  And out of respect to your partner, you should not be doing the latter in their presence.   If what he is doing is obvious enough for the one who is being looked at to observe it, then the person has gone too far.   And if it is frequent enough to make the person he (or she) is with feel the the major focus is not on her (or him) then it has also gone too far.  I believe that it is disrespectful to leer or gape or ogle another person, or spend alot of time "looking" when in the presence of your partner.  And I can see why, when done frequently, how it could make a partner feel insecure in the relationship and question intentions.

Also, is it fair for a guy to give another girl an ego trip  making her feel like "I am cuter, prettier, sexier than the girl you are with".  I could understand how your girl would feel humiliated.  As the above writer said, it is RUDE to give these attentions to other women in front of yur own.  Bottom line...if it is obvious rather than discreet you have gone too far.

 
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April 10, 2007, 3:47 am PDT

Not crossing the line

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I definitely think there is a line of taste when admiring the beauty of another human being.  I mean, if a person is leering and drooling and  pointing, I think that line has been crossed. And if a person is secretly lusting so badly that they regret marriage a line has been crossed. But to pretend that the majority of human beings do not take notice when they see a sexually appealing human being is before them is silly.

Seems you and you husband have stayed behind that line of bad taste! LOL That's great! My husband is a very quiet guy and he's never been sexually out going in anyway, including how he views women. I on the other hand have crossed that line and it did hurt his feelings a little and I learned from it.


You are right.  We don't cross the line.  He may leer and ogle me all he wants but no other woman.  I agree with you other post, too.  When he quits looking, I will be burying him!

 

 

 
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April 10, 2007, 3:54 am PDT

Dangerous things

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You're a great partner, and you were smart to not marry him expecting him to change.

I on the other hand am a wimp and terrified easily. LOL...I married a very low key man because I knew that is what I wanted. He's not into anything scary, the most "dangerous" thing he does is camping...LOL And that is just as "wild" as I'll get too! LOL I knew from an early age I could never marry a football player, or stunt man, or fire fighter, or police officer. I wanted to marry a desk jockey...and I did! LOL

My husband and I both are avid SCUBA divers.  We have both been diving with sharks.  We have been diving where you feed the sharks.  He and his best buddy have a flying boat and go up in it when ever the weather is right. (He did get mortgage insurance on the house after a serious crash!)   He photographs alligators while in the water.  I go on very tough horse back trips.

 

We do these things because we love to do them.  It isn't the thrill.  I don't get an adrenalin rush.  I just love and enjoy seeing what an amazing animal a shark is.  When riding up a seemingly impossible slope on a great and surefooted horse, I am reminded of what amazing animals they are.

 

I would never ask my husband to give up his diving or flying or anything else he does.  And he would never ask me to give up the horse back riding.  We are both approaching 60 but will continue to do these things as long as we are physically able.  If we die doing one of them, we will die doing what we love.  A better option in our opinion than having a heart attack in front of the TV!  Live your life to the fullest.  And enjoy the person you have chosen to walk the path with.  Isn't that why you married him?

 

 
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April 10, 2007, 5:56 am PDT

Looking at other women with lust underneath if not enacted

Husbands have no business looking at other women that hold an attraction for them for other than routine social interaction, business, etc.  It says in the Bible, and follows logically, that if one lusts after a woman in one's heart, it is the same as if one had actually followed through with that.

 

Thoughts in one's mind can easily become a precursor for action.

 

I don't even look at beautiful teenagers for fear I'm going to get connected with lust for them.  Beauty is nice, but not only is it wrong to lust after it, it fades with time and one is left with someone one can't live with.  Marry and stay faithful to someone you like - love will follow.

 

 

 
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April 10, 2007, 6:51 am PDT

husbands need to consider wives feelings!!

I cannot believe that it is the wive's insecurities that are the problem with him looking!!!  Are you kidding?!!  MAYBE HE SHOULDN'T MAKE IT SO OBVIOUS!  My husband may look at other women, but he has the respect for me to not make it obvious and especially not to take 2-3 looks.  If he is that interested in other women,maybe it is his problem and not hers!!  He should respect her feelings about it and try not to look when he is with her.  If he is with his friends or not with her at all, then fine, look and don't touch.  But when she's there, he should give her enough respect not to drool all over himself over a woman walking by.  He says he is making the world happy by noticing them?  Then why is he not noticing that his wife is miserable and hurt?  The world should be happy and not her?  Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!  She does have some insecurity problems, but he contributes or causes most of them.
 
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April 10, 2007, 7:14 am PDT

04/10 Husbands Ask Dr. Phil

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I cannot believe that it is the wive's insecurities that are the problem with him looking!!!  Are you kidding?!!  MAYBE HE SHOULDN'T MAKE IT SO OBVIOUS!  My husband may look at other women, but he has the respect for me to not make it obvious and especially not to take 2-3 looks.  If he is that interested in other women,maybe it is his problem and not hers!!  He should respect her feelings about it and try not to look when he is with her.  If he is with his friends or not with her at all, then fine, look and don't touch.  But when she's there, he should give her enough respect not to drool all over himself over a woman walking by.  He says he is making the world happy by noticing them?  Then why is he not noticing that his wife is miserable and hurt?  The world should be happy and not her?  Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!  She does have some insecurity problems, but he contributes or causes most of them.
   I couldn't agree with you more on that. Well said.
 
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April 10, 2007, 7:26 am PDT

direspectfull!!!

I say it is very disrespectful for your mate to look at the other sex, male or female. Why in the world would you want to hurt the feelings of the one you love? To show them that kind of disrespect for their feelings, as if they do not matter. There are sooo many good looking people out there we all would be running around with neck braces on if we looked at them all. It is very rare that such a beautiful person comes around that you have to look.  If you want to look at others then stay single and selfish that way no one else has to pay for your selfish ways. Thats whats wrong with the world today ,everyone wants it their way.
 
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April 10, 2007, 7:28 am PDT

Honey, check her out!

  Wow! I'm sorry to say that Dr.Phil missed his mark on this one. Yes, we are all human and we do appreciate beauty, but when you are going thru the mall holding your spouses hand and you are gawking at others that is just plain disrespectful! That woman can't even have a conversation with her husband over a meal in a public place, because he is not there with her. His mind is on other things, like other women. I was in a relationship like that and soon was made to feel less attractive also. I to went and changed my appearances. I would "hide" in the clothes I wore and how I presented myself. This man has totally disrespected his wife and destroyed her confidence in her self. This man has set the stage for his wifes paranoia. If he wants his wife back, he should start being HER husband and giving HER the attention. Dr.Phil, please get this couple back on and seriously address this issue before this marriage and woman are destroyed completely.
 
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April 10, 2007, 7:40 am PDT

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Kelly's situation - My take.

I believe firmly that all human beings notice and even observe attractive members of the opposite sex.  However, some do so innocently, discreetly and with respect for their partners and others do so in a very offensive, blatant, even obsessive way that clearly demonstrates a lack of respect for their mate.  I am very much in love with a man whom I trust, respect and admire. I am 98% positive that he will not stray. That said, I often feel disrespected and offended at the oogling and staring that he engages in when I am with him.  I agree men will be men, but there's also a time and a place for such indulgences and that time is not when your lady is at your side.  The other night in a restaurant, as I leaned in to kiss him, he was actually gazing around me to check out the rear view of a lady nearby.  I find no humor in this, nor in his denial of the obvious. His style is described by all who observe this behavior as "staring", not "glancing".  He is literally distracted to the point of interrupted conversations. I have yet to discuss this with a woman who does not feel his excessively wandering eye is absolutely rude. Additionally, his looks are so obvious and targeted that many of his "objects" would be uncomfortable being looked at in such a way.  I have shared my feelings with him and his behavior is not modified. If my feelings are dismissed, what do we really have??  I'm to a point where I enjoy myself more when socializing without him so I don't have to deal with it at all. Kelly's  husband simply needs to exert a bit of self-control and do his drooling on his own time. A pre-pubescent boy may be able to excuse this behavior, but not a grown man who long ago should have learned to control his impulses and urges. I love my partner and I hope through communication that we will find a happy medium with regard to this issue - its a work in progress and I feel we'll meet with success in time.

Not only are these women looking at the men they are passing by and they  too are checking out the other women.  So they need to quit their complaining about the men they are with for looking.  It is human nature to to look and check out.  They need to get over themselves.

 

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