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Topic : 04/12 Twin Tug of War

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Created on : Friday, April 06, 2007, 11:39:40 am
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Allison Quets made headlines around the world when she allegedly kidnapped her 17-month-old twins across the border into Canada this past Christmas. She had given them up for adoption, but did she do so under duress? She now says she suffered from a pregnancy disease called hyperemesis that left her malnourished and sleep deprived to the point of complete exhaustion. See an exclusive interview with Allison from behind bars where she awaits trial on two counts of international parental kidnapping, with a possible sentence of three years behind bars. Then, look inside the life of a woman who is only three-and-a-half months pregnant and so sick with hyperemesis she spends most of her day on the bathroom floor. Plus, find out what all women need to know about hyperemesis: How you get it, how to know you have it, and whether it could kill you or your unborn child. Join the discussion.

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April 12, 2007, 7:09 pm PDT

Different Situation, But I Can Relate

Quote From: livpasionatley

I am a 30 yr old single mom of 3 boys...I suffer from Gastroparesis which is simular to hyperemesis...

I vomit daily..cant think clearly my mother had to move in with me because I could no longer take care of my children on my own..

I am on antivomiting medications which I take 3 times a day. I feel for this mom...I know what it is like to be so sick you cant think clearly your on so many medications your mind is in a fog...I live everyday just as that,day by day.

I hope she is let out of Jail and reunited with her children!! They tricked her in to signing papers,knowing she was sick!!!!

How sad...again,I wish her good luck and pray she is reunited with her children soon...

When I watched the show, I was deeply saddened by the disease.  I had never heard of it before, but I can relate.  I have something that makes me be in pain on a daily basis, which is nerve and muslce pain in my back and arms.  There are things I can't do, and when I first got this, the pain was so bad that I tought I was going to die.  At the time, the pain was throughout my entire body.  My significant other thought that I was overreacting and making it seem worse than it was; I wasn't.  My family wasn't truly there for me and didn't know what the heck was wrong with me.  No one came to visit me and I didn't receive many phone calls asking how I was.  I basically, through tears and pain, had to find out what was wrong and deal with this all on my own.  When I asked my significant other to go with me to appointments, he said, "Do I have to?"  That broke my heart.  At the worst moment in my life, I was alone, and it is very hard for me to get over this.  I went to 3 neurologists, visited the hospital twice, saw 2 regular doctors, etc.  I am still in pain daily.  These women who get hyperemesis, I cry for.  I know what it feels like to suffer and feel helpless and scared.  I only hope that some good does come out of it, whether we try to reach for the positive things in life or what have you.  For me, it's hard.  Through my pain, I have realized that when it comes down to it, my family really does not love me, but I am stronger than I thought I was.  I just wish I did not have to be alone or worse, made to feel "guilty" for my pain.  No one should feel bad for being in pain or having a disease.  People like us need love and compassion.  To the 30 year old who suffers from Gastroparesis; I am so very sorry for what you go through! If you would like to email me, you can contact me through my email at tjsbonnie@yahoo.com.  That goes for anyone else as well.  I am here, and I'm a good listener.  I wish you all the best!  You deserve it.   

 
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April 12, 2007, 7:09 pm PDT

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Quite obviously with the behavior that this Mom was exhibiting, no one should have let her sign these papers. I can imagine tears, or hesitation, but calling 911!  That happening should have been a huge red flag.

 

I hope this Mom gets her babies back. I couldn't imagine what she went through with this illness. Everyone knows how bad it feels to be nauseous and then have to actually vomit. Its not pleasant and those few minutes its happening can feel like forever. Now having to deal with this all day of everyday, what a viscious cycle. That would be an awful way to live.

Instead of punishing this woman, we should be giving her our love and support for enduring this and not giving up and quiting on those babies. Because she could have said, this is enough and aborted those babies. But she didn't, she endured unending agaony to give them a chance at life. What she did is worthy of much repsect.

 
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April 12, 2007, 7:12 pm PDT

I agree

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I had countless volunteers from my local church rushing to our aid, people that didn't know me and whom I didn't know. My family felt helpless and had countless excuses as to why they couldn't help us until they realized it wasn't going to go away. And even after 16 weeks of around the clock volunteers helping us, we ran out of people willing to help and started getting comments that were very hurtful. I had countless times when I would lay helpless, very weak and unable to care for our toddler, praying that God would bring someone to our aid to help us through that night. God was amazing and He never left our side and always brought someone to our aid. Without my faith and my church, we would not have made it through our final pregnancy. Even my physician got frustrated at times with me and advised that I move back to my home state and find people there to help take care of me since my husband didn't understand and couldn't help. It was a nightmare... but God brought us through it. Now we are finally finishing our healing process. That's right, part of a HG survivor's post-partem includes healing the body and the marriage in more ways than anyone can possible realize. Dr. Phil needs to address the full realm of this disease. It doesn't entirely end with birth.
People really don't understand the magnitude in which this affects your life during and afterward. I also felt like I exhausted all my help during my pregnancis and would also pray for help. God got me though it as well. Yes Dr. phil does need to address the aftermath of the pregnancy. I had a difficult time caring for a newborn due to my lack of physical energy that was spent keeping me and the baby alive.
 
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April 12, 2007, 7:24 pm PDT

From a husband

About 2 years ago my wife and I went through a HG pregnancy.   My wife was in the hospital for 2 months with IV, and once released, was taking 17 pills per day (every 2 hours or less, 24 hours per day) to control the disease.  She was continuously told by nurses that this was in her head.  Taking a shower was a hell of a challenge for my wife.

 

From a husband's prospective, you feel totally helpless seeing your wife in a hospital bed with an IV, for nothing more than being pregnant.  I was the lucky one who was not suffering with the disease, but emotionally and physically this was a real drain, as I also had to ensure that I was able keep my work and take care of our dog.  I was lucky as my employer was flexible and ensured that I did not have to travel for the time my wife was pregnant.

 

Watching this show has brought all those memories flying back.  Not sure how we will sleep tonight.  

 

We have discussed having a second child.  But have come to the realization that going through IVF, and most likely HG again, this would not be possible as we now have a young toddler as well.

 

Dr. Phil, thank you very much for airing a show on this.  I truly hope that more people out there will realize that this is not in the mother’s heads.  Would you vomit 30 times per day for the fun of it?

 
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April 12, 2007, 7:27 pm PDT

hyperemesis before my time

 In 1957, I became pregnant after 10 years of trying.  We were overjoyed, and even though  I began throwing up I wasn't worried.  I had a famous OB-GYN whose textbooks were required in all the best medical schools. 

However, when the vomiting continued and got worse with each passing month, I asked my doctor if there was something he could prescribe for it.  He said, no, that it was undoubtedly fear of the actual childbirth and there was nothing to be done.  By the time I entered the 8th month I was no longer able to sleep or eat or even keep water down.  The doctor was unmoved, still
convinced it was fear and nothing more.  Finally, he offered to induce labor and I gladly accepted because by the 9th month I had 24/7  headaches no over the counter meds could touch. 

My son was born the next morning after a long hard delivery, weighing only 5 pounds.  Because of the inability to eat or drink I was suffering from malnutrition and had to remain in the hospital for 10 days to be treated.  Instead of gaining during my pregnany, I had lost 25 pounds.  I'm sad that hyperemesis was unknown at the time, and that I had to suffer the stigma of being called a coward by my own doctor. 

I am so very sad for today's guest, and hope and pray that she'll be reunited with her babies very soon.   
 
 
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April 12, 2007, 7:30 pm PDT

*Shaking Head*...........

First of all the adoptive people, not parents, should be very ashame of themselves.  And they must be since they are not so willing to appear in public or on the Dr. Phil show for "STEALING" Allison's twin babies.  If they remain with this awful couple I hope that the twins will grow up resenting them both.  On the 9-1-1 call who was "HE" that wouldn't give her the papers back?  Was she referring to the boyfriend, the attorney, etc?

 

The "1" thing that I wasn't very clear about was why Allison signed the papers approving the adoption the 2nd time.  Dr. Phil asked the question twice, but really didn't get a definitive answer.

 

I also thought that in an adoption process that you are allowed to change your mind in a certain amount of time.  The couple that "STOLE" Allison's twin are "EVIL" and I am hoping  that just will be fair in this case and give the mother back "HER" children. 

 

One last thing, Dr. Phil asked Allison that since the couple has a vested interested shouldn't their feelings be considered?  She answered correct---->"HE** NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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April 12, 2007, 7:31 pm PDT

Allison needs help

Personally, I think Allison is a bad choice to represent women with Hyperemesis, because she has some serious and unresolved mental disturbances.  How do I know this? Well, it couldn't have anything to do with the fact that it oozed from her every pore could it?  It came through in her affect and her answers.  It's great to draw attention to your cause, but don't be so desperate to do it that you attach yourself to a crazy person.

 

I shudder to think of those babies going back into that woman's hands.  I also question the integrity of her attorney for pursuing such a matter. 

 

Most of all I wonder about this phenomenon of the limelight, because it sure does make people do some strange things.  One thing I like about Dr. Phil is is doesn't seem like he has compromised himself to get where he is ~ that comes through on his show.  He's never afraid to say what he thinks.

 

Meanwhile, legions of women have rallied behind Allison getting her kids back without even taking a good look at her ~ the media momentum is frightening and I hope it won't have any sway in a courtroom. 


I think the people in the courtroom are going to be looking at the family that Allison is threatening to divide.  They are going to be hearing both sides of the story ~ and, as Dr. Phil reminded us, there are two sides.  Even the one side that Allison and her attorney presented today didn't paint her in such a favorable light. 

 

Allison needs help ~ she shouldn't be languishing in a jail cell ~ but she shouldn't be allowed to divide up and traumatize a family, either.

 
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April 12, 2007, 7:31 pm PDT

Hang in there!

I had HG with all 3 of my pregnancies.  The first was while my husband was in medical school.  One of the other student's wives was a little further along than I was, and she had HG.  She had a catheter placed for meds/IV's that became infected, she became septic and died.  I was scared to death, losing weight like crazy, and questioning whether I could continue the pregnancy.  Through trial and error(and everyday was different), I learned to time my vomiting around small amounts of food and liquids, in order to maximize absorption. I found that if I vomited before small meals, I was able to keep them down longer.  You learn what things hurt coming back up, because you know you're going to see it again.  Seafood chowder? Same going in and coming back up-LOL! Watermelon is great for hydration. Crunchy things like carrots and pretzels are good, too.  I never found alot of support from my OB's or their nurses, so I just learned to handle it as best I could. 

     There are no pictures of me during any of my pregnancies.  I wouldn't allow them-because

I looked too scary--cachectic, pale with deep undereye circles.  My gums were in horrible shape

from all the vomiting.  Not the "pregnancy glow" that most people enjoy.  My body just didn't do

pregnancy well--at all.

     After my third child, I became an RN and I'm a mother/baby nurse.  Whenever we get an HG

admission, I usually get them.  I love that I can give them the attention/sympathy/care that never

was available to me.  I also try to empower them with many different methods to "hang in there"

and survive HG.  I always tell them the "door prize" at the end of this ordeal is SO worth it!

  

 
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April 12, 2007, 7:32 pm PDT

It is hard to do...

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About 2 years ago my wife and I went through a HG pregnancy.   My wife was in the hospital for 2 months with IV, and once released, was taking 17 pills per day (every 2 hours or less, 24 hours per day) to control the disease.  She was continuously told by nurses that this was in her head.  Taking a shower was a hell of a challenge for my wife.

 

From a husband's prospective, you feel totally helpless seeing your wife in a hospital bed with an IV, for nothing more than being pregnant.  I was the lucky one who was not suffering with the disease, but emotionally and physically this was a real drain, as I also had to ensure that I was able keep my work and take care of our dog.  I was lucky as my employer was flexible and ensured that I did not have to travel for the time my wife was pregnant.

 

Watching this show has brought all those memories flying back.  Not sure how we will sleep tonight.  

 

We have discussed having a second child.  But have come to the realization that going through IVF, and most likely HG again, this would not be possible as we now have a young toddler as well.

 

Dr. Phil, thank you very much for airing a show on this.  I truly hope that more people out there will realize that this is not in the mothers heads.  Would you vomit 30 times per day for the fun of it?

Trust me, it is so hard to care for a marriage, let alone a toddler while trying to survive a HG pregnancy that requires constant fluids. If I had been properly diagnosed with HG during my first pregnancy, I would have never wanted to have a second child through my own pregnancy. We are now talking about adoption down the road as our desire to have a larger family remains with us but we know that we simply could not manage another HG pregnancy.

 

I'm sorry you and your wife wish for more children but fear HG. All I can say is that there are so many others out here that feel the same way.

 

Blessings to you and your wife.

 
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April 12, 2007, 7:33 pm PDT

Missing the point..

Allison , even though she had a disease when pregnant and gave her children away..When she took those kids and left the country she broke the law..That is the bottom line..It has nothing what so ever to do with a disease she had whild pregnant...She broke the law whewn taking those kids out of the country and should be punished accordingly........
 
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