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Topic : 08/10 Wrongful Punishment

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Created on : Friday, April 13, 2007, 03:12:42 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/18/07) Fistfights in the living room, black eyes, stitches, a father punching a 17-year-old, a mother wrestling a 15-year-old to the floor … What do you do when you have no control over your teenager? Parents face off against teens in what Dr. Phil calls “one of the most disgusting displays of bad behavior on both sides that I have seen in years.” Brenda and Jim are constantly at war with Brenda’s three sons, Koltin, 17; and twins Austin and Dustin, 15. They say the teens have punched holes in the walls, physically attacked their stepfather and left home for days at a time! Brenda and Jim disagree on how to discipline their out-of-control teens and are even headed toward divorce because of it. How can they save the boys and their marriage? Then, meet a judge who believes creative punishments have the most impact. Judge Cicconetti doles out punishments that cause embarrassment and teach a lesson, such as making a teenager who stole a pornographic video sit blindfolded outside the store with a sign that reads “See no evil.” Opponents say creative punishments are abusive and cause more harm than good. What does Dr. Phil think? Join the discussion.

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August 17, 2007, 12:36 pm CDT

I disagree...

     I just watched the show on wrongful punishment and have to say, I think this is the first time I have ever disagreed with Dr. Phil. I totally agree with creative sentencing, but really can't believe that Dr. Phil would agree that the humiliation factor is perfectly acceptable. It's wonderful that Judge Cicconetti has come up with a different system of keeping offenders from repeating, but I truly believe that 'not seeing people back in his court' shoulld be the ONLY criteria for success. The school picnic is a perfect example of a GREAT sentence. I am sure it created some humility without the humiliation- which is  my idea of perfect!  If there can be a sentence that makes the offender learn from his mistake as well as helping them to see the 'personal' aspect of their crime - by having to compensate the person or people they perpetrated that crime against- then hopefully it will cause them to 'think' (like Dr. Phil spoke of in his own situation) but will also help them to become better people. You can beat a child into submission and hence they will mind, but breaking people's spirit and humiliating them is never the optimum option. If we can find ways to fit the punishment to the crime in positive ways then it is a 'win-win' for everyone involved, including those who have been the victims in many cases. This kind of restitution can help victims heal as well. 
 
August 22, 2007, 5:53 am CDT

Well...

Quote From: lorieann

PEOPLE LAUGH AT ME

I WORRY ABOUT ANIMALS TOO

THEY ARE HELPLESS, AND DONT DESERVE WHAT THEY GET.

EXAMPLE

THE PERSON ( FOOTBALL PLAYER) WHO DIDNT KNOW ABOUT THE DOG FIGHTING ON HIS PROPERTY...

YEAH RIGHT

I HOPE HE BURNS AND LOOSES EVERYTHING HE HAS.

AND THAT IS ACTUALLY MILD COMPARED TO WHAT I WISH WAS POSSIBLE.

I don't laugh at you for loving animals.  I do too.  Mr. Vick will be paying a great deal for this.  That is right and just.  The only area in which we may differ on this is that I am not a PETA person and never will be.  I'll leave that alone though since if you are a PETA person you would be offended.  Offending you is not my goal.   
 
August 23, 2007, 7:02 am CDT

I know better than to say this because PETA is certainly a serious and needed organization.

Quote From: flrat69

I don't laugh at you for loving animals.  I do too.  Mr. Vick will be paying a great deal for this.  That is right and just.  The only area in which we may differ on this is that I am not a PETA person and never will be.  I'll leave that alone though since if you are a PETA person you would be offended.  Offending you is not my goal.   
Somebody needs to slap me. What I am going to say is sarcastic mischief at it's lowest. You said you are not a member of PETA. You may be and not know it. To me PETA stands for "People eating tasty animals." I am a member of that branch.
 
August 23, 2007, 9:57 am CDT

You!

Quote From: housewife52

Somebody needs to slap me. What I am going to say is sarcastic mischief at it's lowest. You said you are not a member of PETA. You may be and not know it. To me PETA stands for "People eating tasty animals." I am a member of that branch.
That is just too good.  I hope you don't mind if I use it myself.  Where do I sign up?
 
August 23, 2007, 11:52 am CDT

work....

Quote From: lorieann

WHAT IS THOUGHTFUL PUNISHMENT?

 

AND I MEAN THAT SERIOUSLY...

 

IM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO THINKS THAT THE NAME

 

CRIMINAL JUSTICE  IS THE WRONG TITLE FOR THE WORK BEING DONE.

I think the key there is exactly it.  "WORK"  Unless you are atually working in the system or have been processed by it,it would be hard for an opinion to be fact.

Thinking is one thing, what have you done to help the situation?

Have you volunteered your time to the community, worked at a shelter?, been a big brother/Sister to youth that need a role model?

NO?

I find it difficult to take opinions that have no present or past experience with youth.

:)

 
August 28, 2007, 5:51 pm CDT

VERY FAIR

Quote From: flrat69

I really do agree with you.  The jury or a plea bargain has to come first EXCEPT in the case of the NFL.  Their new commissioner does have every right to suspend him without pay pending the outcome.  Football is not a right and the commissioner is working hard to clean up its image.

 

If he is guilty, then there are few crimes I find more despicable than this one.  If guilty, I do hope he serves time regardless of a plea bargain.  This is a disgusting mess.  I just wish they could have caught everyone involved, right down to the spectators.

 

The media will do what it does whether you or I like it or not.  In this case, I do find it interesting, if not compelling that his co-defendants took plea bargains.  That has the smell of a conviction.  In any event, we shall see.

IT WOULD BE CRAZY FOR ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND TO BELIEVE THAT HE HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON....

AND   HOW ABOUT THAT

 

 

HE DID......AND PLEADED GUILTY...

 
October 22, 2007, 2:10 pm CDT

08/10 Wrongful Punishment

Quote From: tikkogal2

I think the key there is exactly it.  "WORK"  Unless you are atually working in the system or have been processed by it,it would be hard for an opinion to be fact.

Thinking is one thing, what have you done to help the situation?

Have you volunteered your time to the community, worked at a shelter?, been a big brother/Sister to youth that need a role model?

NO?

I find it difficult to take opinions that have no present or past experience with youth.

:)

THE WORK IS THE HARD PART.

NOBODY UNDERSTANDS...UNLESS YOU HAVE BEEN THERE.

AND IF YOU HAVEN'T    WELL YOUR OPINION IS HELPFUL IN THE SENSE THAT YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING AT IT FROM ANOTHER VIEW POINT AND MAY HAVE SOME HELPFUL INPUT. HOWEVER, I AGREE   IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE IT WOULD BE HARD TO LISTEN TO YOUR ADVICE.

 
October 22, 2007, 2:15 pm CDT

08/10 Wrongful Punishment

Quote From: housewife52

Somebody needs to slap me. What I am going to say is sarcastic mischief at it's lowest. You said you are not a member of PETA. You may be and not know it. To me PETA stands for "People eating tasty animals." I am a member of that branch.

I SEE...

HOW FUNNY YOU ARE.

THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR......COMEDY

 
May 25, 2008, 8:51 pm CDT

Creative punishment

I am a parent educator from Melbourne, Australia and I agree wholeheartedly with your guest, Carole. She even has my name and unusual spelling. We need to set the highest example and treat these adolescents with dignity and  respect at all times. Using humiliation may be a short-term effective solution but is a long -term failure. These men and women need to be taught how to behave properly with nurturance, reasonable, related and respectful consequences, role models and  positivity .
 
May 26, 2008, 8:21 pm CDT

Whats happening now?

Watched this show yesterday. whats the update to this pamily, I really felt for them all....
 
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