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Topic : 08/29 Moms Gone Wild

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Created on : Friday, April 13, 2007, 03:14:02 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/19/07) Some moms don’t want to grow up, and others don’t want to grow old. Dr. Phil talks to women walking on the wild side and tries to rein them back in! Aubrey says her sister, Elise, would rather drink and party every night than take care of her 8-year-old son. Their mom, Heidi, is raising Elise’s child and says Elise wants to be a parent only when it’s convenient for her. Elise promises her family that she’s going to change, but what will it take for her to get her act together? Dr. Phil has a shocking proposition for her. Then, Greg says his wife, Lisa, is obsessed with plastic surgery and worries that it’s becoming a disease. He says she works at a plastic surgeon’s office just to get a better deal on surgery. Lisa, 39, admits that she’s spent nearly $100,000 on cosmetic procedures so she can look as young as her 21-year-old daughter and wants even more work done. Can Greg convince his wife to stop going under the knife? Talk about the show here.

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April 19, 2007, 12:35 pm PDT

embrace motherhood

I am sitting here watching the dr.phil show and I am totally saddened by elise's story,I am wondering if she has past issue that may be the result of her behavior,not to say that makes it alright I think elise needs a total intervention and I hope she goes in the program and completes it.she said she has new friends that dont drink and I am willing to be a friend she can contact to talk about anything she chooses hopefully we can eventually develope a friendship where we can teach other new things and enlighten eachother on diffrent views so if you  ever decided to contact me u can on myspace.com  my name is fa$hion queen int'l.....
 
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April 19, 2007, 12:59 pm PDT

Have that surgery if you want it!!!!

I've had a few procedures done and would like to have more if I could afford it. There's nothing like it and if you can, go for it. Your husband is a sweetie and so are you and if that makes you happy, I think Dr. Phil is wrong. I wouldn't expect a man to understand it, and anyone who tells you it's too much is just jealous. You go!
 
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April 19, 2007, 1:07 pm PDT

Get A Life!

Lisa is a outwardly beautiful woman with NOTHING inside!  All she's consumed with is "how she looks" and she has no thought of how she makes her life matter!  She says she wants her husband to be proud of her but she's driving him crazy with her insane obsession with perfection.  As she should know by now after all she's had changed with her appearance, there is never perfection and she will NEVER be happy with anything that she does.  Lisa needs to put down the mirror and go out and make a difference in the world.  Maybe then she'll understand that it's what's inside that makes a person beautiful.  Barbie is just a plastic doll!
 
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April 19, 2007, 1:13 pm PDT

Plastic surgery mom

That woman that is only 39 and has had 8 plastic surgeries my be, in your opinion stable, but in my opinion, she is nuts.  She looks like a barbie doll, and her daughter, Rachel, is lost in the shuffle.  She is deliberately making her daughter look bad, since her goal is to look "as young" as her daughter. Then she made the comment on her daughter's weight, and how she would "support" her if she wanted liposuction.  WHAT IS THAT ALL ABOUT???  She is saying to her daughter that looks are everything, and it is not acceptable to be fat and drab.  Her daughter already has a flat affect, and no wonder.  Where was the daughter in all this?  She is the one that is suffering the most.  She needs a mother, not a walking billboard for plastic surgery and youth.  Then, there is dad.  Where is he with his daughter?  And, why does he put up with this really shallow woman that is spending all their money that could be used for Rachel's education, or retirement, or better yet, to help children born with horrific birth defects that really NEED plastic surgery just to live their life?  I just don't understand how a mother could be so self absorbed.
 
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April 19, 2007, 1:16 pm PDT

Some people should not have kids!!

 I have only seen the first 5 minutes of this show and I was so mad I had to come and post something. Having a kid at a young age is no excuse for this kind of behavior. If you have unprotected sex, you MAY have a baby on the way. My mom had me at a young age, and her and my dad were always there for me they never went out or drank. Now I am 25 and have my first child. My # 1 priorty is my son. This girl could have mad another choice..use protection, adoption...then you can party all you want. But once you bring a child into this world, your days of selfish, childish acts ARE OVER!!! or atleast they should be. Her mother should take some of the blame for all of this too...drinking at 14, getting pregnant. Where was her mother??? Her son is going to turn into a juvenile delinquent if this does not stop. Like I said some people should not have kids AT ALL. This makes me so mad. There are lots of people who are so desperate to have kids and they cant....and then you have losers like this who can have all the kids in the world, but doesnt  give a crap about anyone but herself. This is so sad. This mom is an idiot and perhaps someday she will see what she is doing to her son, but alot of peole like this NEVER change.
 
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April 19, 2007, 1:19 pm PDT

SHOCKED

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"Disease" has become a buzz word.

 

Alcholics (I have MANY in my own extended family) have more of a desire (chemical desire) to drink. That does not mean they can't stop and shouldn't be held responsible for their choice to drink. I have seen it with two of my relatives who have been sober for MANY years. Was it easy? Of course not. Can it be done..definitely! So did they get over their "disease" or is it in remission???? :)

 

Overeaters often have a compulsion to overeat. I eat out of stress and boredom. Do I have a disease? If you call being an emotional glutten a "disease," than I guess I am sick.

 

Cigarettes are additive. Because I desire them and my brain chemistry changes with smoking, do I have a disease? Heck, I gave up cigarettes (11 packs weekly) easier than I did over-eating!

 

The medical association, in the past couple of decades, seems to be labeling every compulsion a "disease." They are not always correct. For many decades, homosexuality was considered an "abnormality." In our secular, politically corrent culture, the AMA has now changed that and no longer considers it abnormal.

 

MY POINT is that if you believe everything the AMA has to say than you are one foolish person. Their "science" has more to do with social mores than it does with reality!!!!

I did not even come to this site to comment on this story, but I am so shocked by the comment about alcoholics not having control  because it is  a disease has startled me beyond words.  I was certified in the field of substance abuse with years of practice with thousands of folks.  I also know what it is like to live with a loved one who is alcoholic.  These comments sound like such a bunch of denial and excuses.  I am diabetic and addicted to food, a disease but not an excuse to  not correct my behavior.  I thought Dr. Phil was right on target suggesting the lady serve her 7 days and then go to rehab. It seems like I have heard that alcoholics need to take responsibility for their actions before. Hmm, could it have been Alcoholics Anonymous?

 
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April 19, 2007, 1:26 pm PDT

oh please....

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hehe, I overheard something fantastic. I can't remember if it was on Dr. Phil, or if it was by some Christian writer I was reading, but about maintaining a youthful apperance they said this: I don't want to go into my coffin in some well preserved body. I want to scretch in, thouroughly used up and exhasted saying "Gee, God, thanks for the ride, THAT WAS FUN!!! - that's how *I* wanna go out!!!

 

As for the young mother, I feel her mom could be enabling her (pregnant at fourteen???). But I had a few cousins who got pregnant young and then when they hit legal drinking age, they missed the opportunity to party with their friends so the children got left to the wayside while they tried to recapture their youth. It's hard not to judge people like that, but at the same time, we have to remember that Dr. Phil said that our brains aren't even fully developed until we are in our early twenties. We are not able to determine the consequences of our actions,  and I mean, if this young lady was allowed to do this from fourteen on, she more than likely would have continued, because it became a way of life and there was no imediate consequences (she can't forsee how this would affect her son). Just my opinion.

 AS for the comment that you are not able to determine the consequences of your actions at a young age, or before you are in your early twenties ...that is RIDICULOUS!! I am in my early twenties and it was not that long ago that I was a teen...I had girls at my high school that got pregnant young, and kids that partied and drank...but let me tell you the common thread with these kids was a SERIOUS LACK of parental involvement. I know I saw it first hand. Kids whose parents did not care where they were and what they did, they did not know their kids friends and truthfully did not want to be bothered with it anyway. I had parents that waited up for me if I was out....I had a curfew...they knew where I was and who I was with, and truthfully I never MADE the CHOICE to drink or to do drugs, because my parents taught me RIGHT from WRONG. I thought more of myself...yeah I was told "you are party pooper" "you are a nerd" I dont believe in peer pressure...I believe that if parents do not get involved in their kids lives...and set rules, that kids will fall for anything. You have to empower your kids to stand up for what is right, even if it is not popular. Parents need to wake up and be PARENTS!!!
 
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April 19, 2007, 1:30 pm PDT

04/19 Moms Gone Wild

I came to this site to comment on the story about the woman getting so much plastic surgery.  I think she really needs a reality check if she thinks she is looking better as a result of all this surgery. When I looked up at the screen and saw her, I thought I was looking at a young Tammy Faye ( the preacher's wife who looked like a caricature).  She should not think that  people are not talking about her behind her back, and it isn't that she is looking so good; it is because she is looking so artificial. You cannot hide a face that has had so much work that it screams "plastic surgery" when you see it.  There are good plastic surgeons, but none are that good.   I really applaud her husband for standing by her, and I feel sorry for him. 
 
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April 19, 2007, 1:31 pm PDT

What kind of help was that?

It was obvious that this woman is not happy with herself. Emotionally she is suffering from body dis-morphia.

 She was insulting to woman because she was so airy and and to just laugh at yourself is very disrespectful.

I do understand when you want to enhance your beauty and the want to age gracefully but I am a firm believer that cosmetic surgery is addictive.I witness it everyday in my field, and for Dr.Phil to refer to his wife- I would guarantee she has had some herself. Nothing wrong once again but lets be honest!

 
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April 19, 2007, 1:35 pm PDT

It's time that families are held responsible

Dr. Phil,

 

It's time that family members be held responsible for the actions of other family members. WHAT you might ask? Today, the mother on the show with her daugher with the drinking problem. She keeps paying the car payments so her aged father's credit will remain good!!!! SELL the car!!! Or, donate it to charity to allow someone who can not afford a car  but needs one desparately can operate the car. If she is going to pay for it anyway.

 

When family members can be hauled into court and held accountable for not putting up EVERY roadblock for their other family members who are unable to so for themselves -- that is when this country will begin to take a turn in the right direction.

 

I can tell you that the mother doesn't want to put the time and effort into her daughter. She looks tired and disgusted with her. I can understand that but it does that give her the right to throw up her hands and keep the "weapon" (great phrase by the way) in her daughter's hands? NO way!

 

My advise is: Mom donate the car to charity and sleep better at night. Unfortunately, the rest is up to your daughter. But at all costs take the "weapon" out of her reach -- if not for the innocent others on the road, for your grandchild's sake!

 

 
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