Topic : 08/29 Moms Gone Wild

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Created on : Friday, April 13, 2007, 03:14:02 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/19/07) Some moms don’t want to grow up, and others don’t want to grow old. Dr. Phil talks to women walking on the wild side and tries to rein them back in! Aubrey says her sister, Elise, would rather drink and party every night than take care of her 8-year-old son. Their mom, Heidi, is raising Elise’s child and says Elise wants to be a parent only when it’s convenient for her. Elise promises her family that she’s going to change, but what will it take for her to get her act together? Dr. Phil has a shocking proposition for her. Then, Greg says his wife, Lisa, is obsessed with plastic surgery and worries that it’s becoming a disease. He says she works at a plastic surgeon’s office just to get a better deal on surgery. Lisa, 39, admits that she’s spent nearly $100,000 on cosmetic procedures so she can look as young as her 21-year-old daughter and wants even more work done. Can Greg convince his wife to stop going under the knife? Talk about the show here.

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April 19, 2007, 10:00 pm PDT

This Rings True!

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PART OF THE PROBLEM IS ALL OF THE ABOVE, THE  OTHER PART OF THE PROBLEM IS WE GOOD NUTURING PARENTS ARE OUTNUMBERED BY THE I DON'T GIVE A DAMN PARENTS, SO IT MAKES IT HARDER FOR US IN THIS DRUG, PORNO AND ALCOHOLIC SOCIETY WE LIVE IN . WE MUST BE MORE AWARE OF WHERE OUR CHILDREN ARE, WHO THEY ASSOCIATE WITH AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING ON THEIR COMPUTERS. A LITTLE STRICTNESS NEVER HURT ANYONE, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD SET BOUNDARIES. I NEVER JUST WANTED TO BE A "FRIEND" TO MY TWO SON'S I ALSO WANTED TO BE THEIR MENTOR, EDUCATION, GUIDANCE,DICPLINE WHEN NEEDED AND ALOT OF LOVE. I THANK GOD I WAS RAISED TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S NOT WHAT KIND OF HOME OR CAR YOU OWN THAT MAKES YOU A SUCCESSFUL PERSON. THE SUCCESS IS IN THE FACT THAT YOU ARE A GOOD CARING HUMAN BEING WHO WANTS TO MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE MY HUSBAND AND I DO OUR BEST, WE ARE FAR FROM PERFECT, BUT ALEAST ' WE GIVE A DAMN!!!

 How clear and fresh is this message today. Yes, let's all of us parents "give a damn" about our children and grandchildren and the other children in the world. We need to be vigilant about the dangers lurking in every place, and try for us to raise decent human beings, full of integrity, ethics, honour, kindness, good-manners, compassion and love. May God bless us all, as we try to do the "right thing" before Him.

Sincerely Lory(Australia)     

 
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April 19, 2007, 10:52 pm PDT

you go Dr. phil

                             

 

                                    "In an age of deceit, speaking the truth makes one a revolutionary"

 

                                        Was nice to hear someone finally speak truth to the judges

 
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April 20, 2007, 2:49 am PDT

PARTYING MOMS

The damage has already been done to that "moms" 8 year old boy!  Kids know when they are not wanted and when they are "just in the way". 

As far as the drunk driving is concerned, it is terrible, but I wish someone would include smoking pot when talking about "DUI'S". .  People think that is ok~ they do that but it's not drunk driving! Under the influence is under ANY  influence.

 
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April 20, 2007, 2:55 am PDT

Judgements without all the facts

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I have only seen the first 5 minutes of this show and I was so mad I had to come and post something. Having a kid at a young age is no excuse for this kind of behavior. If you have unprotected sex, you MAY have a baby on the way. My mom had me at a young age, and her and my dad were always there for me they never went out or drank. Now I am 25 and have my first child. My # 1 priorty is my son. This girl could have mad another choice..use protection, adoption...then you can party all you want. But once you bring a child into this world, your days of selfish, childish acts ARE OVER!!! or atleast they should be. Her mother should take some of the blame for all of this too...drinking at 14, getting pregnant. Where was her mother??? Her son is going to turn into a juvenile delinquent if this does not stop. Like I said some people should not have kids AT ALL. This makes me so mad. There are lots of people who are so desperate to have kids and they cant....and then you have losers like this who can have all the kids in the world, but doesnt give a crap about anyone but herself. This is so sad. This mom is an idiot and perhaps someday she will see what she is doing to her son, but alot of peole like this NEVER change.
 You should not make judgements without all the facts. How do youknow that it was unprotected sex? How do you know that she didn't wantto give the baby up? How do you know that the mother wasn't their orthe father? Mistakes where made , she's is trying to do something aboutit is what counts before it is to late. You don't know what happened sodon't be  in such a hurry to make judgements and condemmher!  It's hard enough for a adult to adjust to being a mother ,14 she is still a child herself who made a mistake, that  she wasnot equiped to handle. Let you  that are without sin cast thefirst stone.
 
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April 20, 2007, 4:37 am PDT

child of a drunk.

I was a child of a drunk, I promise we pay a high price for

our parents freedom to have fun and thier friends.  We are at such a short

end of valued, feel like a burden and what is there to sympathize or understand

about the choices?  It hurts, alot!  Drunks escape into thier world of like minded friends

in a realm of self injury that abusese their children.  With so many help groups

pleading for rehab to help this problem, the places that sell and serve the alcohol

remain a thriving business.  There is still many of them businesses that allow

them drunks to sit there with their children, drinking, leaving with them children after drinking.

Much of society still do not get it that drunks abuse thier family in many ways, neglect and devalue the home.  What is it the government does to make it harder to be a drunk?

Tax alcohol?  that does not work, the children go without more to pay them taxes, it does not deter anything!  Even the laws and sentensing for getting caught drinking and driving is weighed out in a lawyer brain battle VS ALL pay equally a stiff penalty.  Commericials and advertising is not curbed enough, girls goen wild is living proof of how bad drinking is enhanced to

a normal fun activity.  Freedom should be better defined by laws for the protection of ALL of society!

For the face lifts or other 'medical' procedures?  It is out there growing and thriving.

Those who are so dis-satisfied with themselves: there is medical professionals to take their money to 'look' better.  If only therapy had such a growing number?  To be satisfied with themselves they first need to 'get real' about what is a feeling, it is not a look like our media

gives us?

 
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April 20, 2007, 5:23 am PDT

Lisa needs to embrace AA/NA

I sat on the couch watching this show, shaking my head in amazement at the family theatrics which surrounded Lisa.  All addicts simply don't function too well if they have no codependents to support them.  Are you reading this, Mom and Sis?

I'll bet this whole family is wrapped tightly around the drama of Lisa, and I hope and pray that they ALL embrace therapy in order to learn to live normally without the chaos, crisis, and confusion which now defines the life they have been living for too long.  Lisa sat the better part of their segment dabbing at her eyes.  That's called "leaking" when an addict hasn't fully comprehended the seriousness of how low their life has dropped.  They aren't able to truly cry, thus the term "leaking".

And when Lisa had to take a pregnant pause to consider jail or no jail, I knew without a doubt that she wasn't serious and ready to surrender to a new way, a new life, a new Lisa.

So to you, Lisa, and all of the Lisa's out there who are drinking and drugging and partying because you say your life is too rough, and you are too young to be saddled with the responsibilities of parenting, you're fooling nobody but yourselves. 

Getting clean is serious business meant for people who are serious about recovery.  And it's hard.  It's lonely at times.  It feels empty at the beginning, and the words in the recovery books, i.e. The Big Book, may not make sense at first.  Not being able to drink or drug yourself to sleep is incredibly difficult for about three to four weeks.  Being informed that you have to choose "different playmates and different playgrounds" means that you literally drop the people you partied with. The phone goes silent, and your e-mails are reduced to minor junk.   As the drugs and alcohol leave your body slowly, you ache and have diarrhea and sometimes vomit.  You experience some of the most excruciating headaches known to man, and there isn't a joint in your body or a muscle on your bones that doesn't scream out in agony.  Your eyelashes even hurt.

Then you go to the meetings where you meet all of these people who look clear-eyed, have deep things to say about their lives, and can actually remember what they said two minutes ago.  You still can't remember squat about what you ate for breakfast that morning but something about the resolve and purpose of these people in these meetings draws you back over and over.  You hear their stories, their "leads" in meetings, and you begin to realize that you weren't so unique in your past pattern of drug and alcohol abuse.  They show you by example that you aren't a victim, that you have worth as a human being, that,  by the grace of your Higher Power, you can walk tall and speak legibly, and begin to respect yourself.  Your self absorption and selfishness, your laziness and rudeness, your eternal pity party gradually fades away.  Life begins to matter deeply to you, and you start to learn to laugh again.  You exercise and take walks and enjoy your children and your families . . . they, in turn, embrace you with pathetic eagerness, all the while hoping and praying that you stay just the way you have become.

It's work, people.  Hard work.  I know.  May 23rd of this year I celebrate fifteen years of being clean and sober.  It can be done, Lisa, but it is all up to you now.  The ball's in your court, girl.  Start serving!

 

 
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April 20, 2007, 5:50 am PDT

That's great...

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I was 17 when I had my son, who is now 5 1/2, and I can't imagine a single day in these past years without him in my life.  From the moment I found out I was pregnant, everything changed.  That was it for me.  No more drinking, no more smoking, no more partying......and I would just assume this wouldn't be a difficult decision for any mother to make, and to continue with once their little life has been brought into the world.  NEVER would my son not be my FIRST priority.  I can't recall a single time when I was just itching to get out and 'party' and leave my son with someone other than me.  Why would someone NOT want to be with their child?!  I just do NOT get it, at all.  I would MUCH rather hang out with my little man, then leave him at the drop of a dime because some friends called me for a night out.  Elise said she's been hanging with a new crowd recently, in my opinion they can't be any better than the other crowd except for minus the drinking if that's even true.  She should have friends who are fully aware that she's a mother to a very handsome 8yr old boy, and understand that she has responsibilities.  Whether she wants to acknowledge them or not.  Her mother should not help to support all her awful habits in any way!  I don't doubt that she's a great grandmother to Elise's son, but there is still such a difference.  He needs his mom, and more so he needs his mom to want to be his mom.

See, this is how I would feel if I were a parent.  My WORLD would revolve around my child!  I don't understand wanting to go out and party rather than being there for my child either.  You sound like an awesome mom, this is what Elise should be like, IMO!

 

I feel really bad for the 8 yo son!  He's jealous of his cousin and wishes his aunt was his mom.  How sad!  If her friends were really her friends, they'd tell her out right to take better care of her baby boy! 

 
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April 20, 2007, 6:04 am PDT

I was you in 1989.....

Dear elise,

In 1989 j(although I was in my 30's) I suddenly couldn't stop drinking. it had a hold on me and called all the shots.  I  had a 5 year old son whom I loved dearly - more than my own life and I couldn't understand why I couldn't say no to partying and yes to staying home with him and nurturing him.  After all, I had waited till I was 30 years old to have him.  I watched you say you haven't driven drunk with him and that after 4 dwi's you've only driven drunk 10 times.  You and I know differently don't we.  If you've been caught 4 times, you've driven drunk over 100 times - and you don't differentiate when your son is in the car.  I didn't .  I drove him to school - with his friends - with a bottle in the trunk so I could stop along the way and take a hit.  Sound familiar? I also wrecked several vehicles - one into a NY State patrol vehicle (totaling it) and another one I wrecked and let an innocent bystander go to jail for dwi for me by telling the cops he had been driving.  His only crime was sitting in his living room drinking and then coming out to see if I was o.k. when I wrecked.  I carry that damage with me to this day.  I saw the look on your face when Dr. Phil asked you to take responsibility for your acts and I don't think you are ready.  My guess is that your family is ready to take your son from you and you figured the "easier softer way" would be to have Dr. Phil put you into a cushy rehab instead of a state funded one like I went to.  Mine was certainly not Betty Ford but it did the job and when you are ready, you'll go whereever you need to to get the help - even if that's in jail.  Please think of your son.  I know it's instinct to feel that because we gave birth to them it's our privelege to have them in our lives and be called "mom" forever but if you are not ready to commit to rehab and follow up with a lifetime of AA meetings and living life on life's terms, you need to let him go.  It's the loving thing to do.  I'm still in AA and my life has changed remarkably.  I know how to face life without numbing myself and my son is part of my life although he still shows signs of lack of self respect which I think I instilled in him by my dropping him off to party or just zonk out while he was in the room.  He's a handsome young man of 23 who is now searching for who he is and I can't seem to help him.  There's underlying resentment toward me that I can't even reach anymore.  His dad was never in the picture so my family was all he had.  Please Elise, look to me as your future.  Get your son some counseling now so he knows none of this has to do with him.  Get yourself into recovery - IF YOU ARE READY.  If not, getting everyone's expectations up and then letting them down is worse than just accepting that you are going to continue on the same path.  By the way,  at one time I had a BAC of .54 - but I was in a coma and my family was told to say goodbye to me so bragging about BAC's is just plain stupid.  When I came out of the coma, I actually saw disappointment on the faces of my family because although they love me to death, I was killing them all wondering where I was and when that late night phone call was coming.  I saw that in your mother's face too, the same look my mother had.  I'm so glad I found AA and was sober when she passed away in 1994.  Will you bury your mother or will she bury you?

Sheila

West Virginia

 

 

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April 20, 2007, 6:08 am PDT

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PART OF THE PROBLEM IS ALL OF THE ABOVE, THE  OTHER PART OF THE PROBLEM IS WE GOOD NUTURING PARENTS ARE OUTNUMBERED BY THE I DON'T GIVE A DAMN PARENTS, SO IT MAKES IT HARDER FOR US IN THIS DRUG, PORNO AND ALCOHOLIC SOCIETY WE LIVE IN . WE MUST BE MORE AWARE OF WHERE OUR CHILDREN ARE, WHO THEY ASSOCIATE WITH AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING ON THEIR COMPUTERS. A LITTLE STRICTNESS NEVER HURT ANYONE, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD SET BOUNDARIES. I NEVER JUST WANTED TO BE A "FRIEND" TO MY TWO SON'S I ALSO WANTED TO BE THEIR MENTOR, EDUCATION, GUIDANCE,DICPLINE WHEN NEEDED AND ALOT OF LOVE. I THANK GOD I WAS RAISED TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S NOT WHAT KIND OF HOME OR CAR YOU OWN THAT MAKES YOU A SUCCESSFUL PERSON. THE SUCCESS IS IN THE FACT THAT YOU ARE A GOOD CARING HUMAN BEING WHO WANTS TO MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE MY HUSBAND AND I DO OUR BEST, WE ARE FAR FROM PERFECT, BUT ALEAST ' WE GIVE A DAMN!!!
As a curtious reminder,it is considered shouting to type in all caps,It is also very hard on the eyes to many of us who would like to read your post rather then skipping over it,thank you
 

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April 20, 2007, 6:10 am PDT

empress

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YES OF COURSE THERE ARE THINGS WE WANT TO DO OVER; THERE ARE THINGS IN OUR PAST AND CHILDHOOD THAT WILL NEVER HEAL.

AS FOR MYSELF THE REMAKE I DID FOR MYSELF BY MYSELF TRANSCENDED A TOTAL EMOTIONAL COLLAPSE. I WORKED LIKE A DEMON TO REINVENT MYSELF.

NOW AGAIN I AM WORKING TO AGAIN MAKE MYSELF OVER ALONG WITH MY DEEPLY ROOTED PERSONALITY FLAWS THAT ONLY SLAP ME IN THE FACE, NOW I AM OLDER AND

HOPEFULLY WISER;FORGIVING THE TORTUROUS EVENTS THAT I ALONE ALLOWED TO HOLD ME BACK. WELL, A NOT SO WONDERFUL BEDSIDE MANNER BUT ARTFUL SURGEON TOLD ME I HAD BETTER WIN THE LOTTO TO PAY FOR ALL I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DONE CAN YOU IMAGINE THE HURT????.

I HAVE A STRONG DETERMINATION AND I PRAY I CAN LOOK MYSELF IN THE MIRROR ONEDAY AND SEE AN OLDER BUT BEAUTIFUL ME AND NOT HIDE ANYMORE.MAYBE YOU CAN GO OVERBOARD WITH PLASTIC SURGERY, BUT GOOD LORD, I WOULD DO A DOUBLEBACK FLIP FOR THE CHANCE!!!

Please reconsider typing in all caps.It is considered rude or shouting and is tuff on the ol eyes....thank you
 

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