Topic : 08/01 Know-It-All In-Laws

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Created on : Friday, April 20, 2007, 02:37:54 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/25/07) In-laws can be the kind who give unwanted advice, stop by unexpectedly and use guilt and manipulation to get what they want. But sometimes, they are loving parents who get caught in the middle of their child's relationship. Amanda calls her mother-in-law, Yolande, psychotic, controlling and meddling. She says Yolande speaks to her son, Pierre, in French so she can hide the hurtful words she’s using about Amanda. Yolande says Amanda is a drunk, and an uneducated woman who is wrecking her son's life. Why does Pierre say he can't choose a side? To test Amanda's theory of why Yolande and Pierre speak French to each other, Dr. Phil sets up a "special" dinner for the three of them. Be a fly on the wall, and find out if Amanda's right or just being paranoid. And, John and Chrissy's engagement is on hold because they say they can't stop fighting. They hit and slap each other, and call each other vulgar names — often in front of their 8-month-old son. John's mom, Charlene, who is often pulled into their fights, says they both need to grow up! After watching themselves scream and yell on tape, will this couple decide to drop their fists, close their mouths and work to make a peaceful home for their baby? Join the discussion.

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September 12, 2007, 9:48 am PDT

He didn't marry his mother!

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Regarding Amanda, Pierre, and Yolande- I have to say, not one of them seems to have respect for each other.  Amanda needs to know, that Pierre will not put himself in the middle of a situation when it comes to his mother, that's just the way it is.  Amanda needs to respect the fact that Yolande is the woman that raised the man she loves, and no matter what, in Yolande eyes there isn't a woman that is good enough for her son.  I'm not saying that Yolande is right, however Amanda needs to give her mother-in-law a chance to see that she can live up to her expectations of the perfect wife for her son, this falls under the catagory that you always want the best for your children.  Amanda needs to always know, and remember that no matter what, that is his mother and respect her for her position in the family.

 

John and Chrissy- You both need to realize that a slap today, will be a closed fist punch tomorrow.  Sounds to me that Charlene is trying to protect her grandchild.  Why would any parent want their child growing up in an environment where his parents are physically and verbally fighting?  They need to read and live by that poem titled "Children Learn What they Live."  It sounds to me that they don't love each other enough, to accept, respect, and celebrate each others differences.  They obviously can't even put their differences aside for the sake of their child.  Sure, the baby is a baby now, but he is growing and learning from his environment, how can you, as parents, the people he depends upon to love and protect him, allow him to live in this manner.  My daughter is 19, although she is away at college now, and not home as much, we still do not fight in front of her, nor have we ever, ever raised our hands to each other, whether alone or not.  Maybe we are fortunate, we don't fight, maybe a debate, never a fight.  I have seen parents that have fought in front of their children, and I have to say, those children have grown up with problems.  Please, if you can't love and respect each other at least love your son enough, and not get married, maybe you will get along much better.  Although, this would not be the conventional family, it would promote a healthier mind for your son, as well as a happy child.

It dosen't matter if yolande raised her son or not, when your kids become adults, the parents are supposed to let go, especially when they get married, it even says in the bible "Therefore shall a man leave his father and mother behind, and cleave onto his wife" That mean when a couple gets married, the wife/ husband is supposed to come before everyone, else even his mom. Whats wrong with the mothers of these mama's boys is that they suffering from a power struggle and a jocasta complex, and need to not only mind their own business, but also get professional help.

 
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September 12, 2007, 10:15 am PDT

Yolandie deserves it

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I have thought about this show so often since it first aired. Have Amanda and Pierre had to find a new house? Did Yolanda completely cut them off financially? Have Amanda and Pierre learned to support themselves? Did Yolanda marry or leave the country? Did Amanda quit drinking?

My heart broke for "Yjenny" I thought she saw her son leave her emotionally and that would be so hard for any mother.

I think Amanda revealed her true colors in her last few mumbled words. Dr Phil had said that if they wanted true independence they would need to quit taking financial help from Pierre's mother and Amanda said, "She wouldn't stop helping her son!" Clearly she wanted to have it both ways: Financial help from her MIL was fine but any other sort of advice or help was "interference."
Yolandie was really mean to amanda, so she deserves it, maybe that'll teach her a lesson
 
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September 15, 2007, 6:33 pm PDT

Wrong translation

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I was offended by the mother-in-law's comment about women here in the states, if you dont like it then go back where you came from!!

 

Check the text again and you will see that it was corrected. I never criticized American women in general, i only criticized Amanda. Thank heavens the police removed her from the house and now they are divorced.

I also work full time, volunteer every single week-end and rarely went to my house 300 miles away. I don't know why people concluded I was always at my son's residence,  I always spend 3 weeks in Europe at Christmas and 5 weeks in the summer.

 
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September 16, 2007, 7:47 pm PDT

Yolande's response

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I was offended by the mother-in-law's comment about women here in the states, if you dont like it then go back where you came from!!

 

The translation error has been corrected. I pointed out that on the local singles' internet site, no woman would be as crazy as Amanda. I clearly stated that Pierre would find a better woman in a singles'club or website. I am offended by many messages, considering I have many American female friends and considering I am very busy with a full time job, I volunteer every single week-end and I spend time in Europe 2 or 3 times a year.

The readers should try to figure out how much time I can spend at my son's residence which is 300 miles away. Nobody on the show said how much time I spend there, the readers and the viewers are making it up, without any proof.

 
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January 10, 2008, 8:30 am PST

Where is your pride Pierre?

He is 38 years old and still wanting things from his mother? And he was grinning the whole time as if it was something funny. Time to wean yourself off Pierre. And show your beautiful wife some respect.
 
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April 20, 2008, 9:43 pm PDT

dont cut the birds wings

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It dosen't matter if yolande raised her son or not, when your kids become adults, the parents are supposed to let go, especially when they get married, it even says in the bible "Therefore shall a man leave his father and mother behind, and cleave onto his wife" That mean when a couple gets married, the wife/ husband is supposed to come before everyone, else even his mom. Whats wrong with the mothers of these mama's boys is that they suffering from a power struggle and a jocasta complex, and need to not only mind their own business, but also get professional help.

i am amazed at how some mothers raise their children to be crippled......and yet if a child is physically crippled they shove mountains to help them walk.......many mothers just dont get it!......a child is a gift given to you for a purpose...........either a blessing or a curse................a blessing that you have the wisdom to help them to learn to live & enjoy life, accept responsibility, and have respect for other & self esteem.............or a curse as in a selfish self centered manipulating lazy lying ingrate....scheming, or a curse that mommy has to control all forever.........mommies......when your "little man" marries...........please......either shut up or....tell your future daughter in law how lucky you are to have them, and if they ever need help, call you..........or kiss the future grandchildren goodbye forever........if i insulted my son or his wife & he didnt tell me where to get off............then i didnt do a good job..........think about that during your soap operas.............
 
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April 24, 2008, 8:44 pm PDT

mommies.......do you want a hubby like him?

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Yolandie was really mean to amanda, so she deserves it, maybe that'll teach her a lesson

how many of you had to ask your hubbies mommy if you could have sex with him ?............some of you domineering moms dish out stuff you wouldnt put up with.

 
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April 24, 2008, 8:48 pm PDT

jocasta complex

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He is 38 years old and still wanting things from his mother? And he was grinning the whole time as if it was something funny. Time to wean yourself off Pierre. And show your beautiful wife some respect.

im wondering if he is afraid to tell mommy no..........besides.love out of fear or due to $$$$$

 

isnt really love, is it.

 
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May 5, 2008, 12:47 pm PDT

This guys' a loser!

Dear Dr. Phil,

This guy Pierre is a loser!  He won't go out and get a decent job because KNOWS he has a back up.  There's no motivation for him to grow up!  I'm sure his mother would like to see him grow up and be a man and do the things a man is supposed to do.  Since he doesn't, she feels sorry for his inability to conduct himself as an adult and therefore treats him like the child he is!!! Why do you support this guy?  He has done very little to earn the title "responsible adult:, husband and provider".  Why doesn't anyone see that he cannot and will not be financially independent because he knows he has a backup and he is so used to getting so much there is no incentive for him to give or to contribute to a job that pays a worthwhile salary.  He's got it made in the shade, so why bother trying to get ahead!!!

 

I think Pierre is an immature, self centered user.    All his mother wants for him is to be with a woman who won't take advantage of him and not be a drinker.  That is a reasonable request.  This is a symbionic relationship where she feels sorry for his lack of ability to find a decent job and wants to help him.  She is a very generous woman.  I think because of her generosity and feeling sorry for him, she can't help but try to direct his ways.  If you act like a child you will be treated like a child!  Why treat someone who has the age of an adult but the behavior of a self centered, egotistical, materialistic, passive agressive and obnoxious....and a drinker, which ruins everyone's life.  No wonder his poor mother wanted someone better for him. (Even though Pierre has not earned the right to find anyone better because he is not being mature and responsible to begin with.)  His ex wife was a boozer and ruining this guys life!  Why do you support this guy Pierre when you see how his behavior is making an impact on his mother! You make this woman be the devil, to be percieved as a meddling mother in law.  I think the American perception of her being materialistic and meddling is another form of projection.  Am I the only one who sees that this mother is trying to help her inadequate son?  If she is putting down the woman, it is because she deserves it!  This young woman is a boozer and a user, and it impacts her relationship with the mother in law....any mother in law for that matter!

 

As far as the mother goes, she is already past the point of being conditioned to even remotely try to treat this son as an adult.  She will treat him like a child for the rest of his life because she doesn't know any other way to be. She is tired of the losers he dates and spends money on them that he doesn't have, at the expense of his mother's offering.  She didn't give him that Mercedes.  She was kind enough to let him borrow it.  If he's a real man, he needs to get his own car!  What is up with some men today!  Don't they know their roles as men are to be the providers?  Why are women always made the providers?  All these mothers do is make their son's life easier, and then the son gets lazy and won't find a decent job! 

These women don't know how to do the "tough love" thing and withdraw their gifts from their children.  All they know how to do is give.  Can you possibly take a look to see the other side of this??

 

DR PHIL. THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY WHATSOEVER.  She is simply trying to protect her stuff, which she rightly should do so.  She won't take it away from him because she is afraid of withdrawing things from him, because in European language, that is the same thing as taking your love away from someone.

 

You have to try to understand other people's cultures before you drive your point that is commonly understood by the American culture.

 

Perhaps you should do a job traveling to Europe and helping people with there problems there and you will find it a whole new and interesting learning experience for yourself.  Not only that, but you will bring to us the understanding of how people in Europe and other countries deal with their problems. You've been doing this in America for a long time, and now I challenge you, Dr. Phi, to go to other countries and educate us in the ways of their struggles and how you can help them deal with it, while at the same time trying to overcome the cultural and language barriers.

 

Best of Luck and God Bless you, Dr. Phil

 

 

 

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May 5, 2008, 1:02 pm PDT

Growing up

Dear Dr. Phil,

 

Growing up with parents from European culture is very difficult.  The belief is that you live at home with your parents until you marry.  If you move out before you get married, you are considered someone who has a loose and immoral lifestyle. 

 

I lived with my prents until I was 28.  My mother provided me a nice place to live but she was nosy.  I couldn't live my own life.  I didn't have enough money to move out. The only way to break away from her control is to move out.  So I found a job 45 minutes away from home.  A very good paying job and a step up in my career.  My mothers' controlling ways forced me to seek my own independence.  After a year I told my mother I couldn't drive such a long distance and wanted to move closer to my job.  I found a condo and she insisted on giving me the downpayment, provided that her name was on the deed.  Nevertheless, I felt a sense of independence and breaking away from the control I so resisted.   Years later, I sold the condo and mother did not ask for her money back.  At this point I could put my name on my own house without any of her control.  Once she saw how independent I was and how I was living a good life, she was proud of me when I opened my own business.  She gave me money to help me, and not control me because she knew I was doing a BETTER job than she would have done, so who was she to give me advice.  In fact, my mother was always asking ME for advice!  We became best friends and stayed that way until the day she died.

 

So, Dr. Phil, if a person really wants to be independent, they will find a way.  Any guy who leeches off his mother and makes excuses for not finding a good job is LAZY, self indulgent, and expects people to wait on him and give him stuff.  This kind of a man never grows up to be a good provider.  He's the kind of guy who looks for "successful" women who make a lot of money, so that they don't have to provide.  Basically, these men don't want to spend a lot of money but they still want the fun and the relationship.  They're usually cheap and self centered, and they still live with their mothers, since he looks for women that are intelligent, they are too intelligent to take him on as a partner because they don't want to wind up being sugar mommas.

 

Yes I am single and I would rather stay single than marry a guy I have to support to take the place of his mother!!

 

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