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Topic : 04/26 Obsessive Love

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Created on : Friday, April 20, 2007, 02:39:18 pm
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“When I think I’ve seen it all, then I get a wake-up call,” Dr. Phil says of his guests who are involved in a very intense relationship. Jeffrey's obsession with his wife, Jennifer, has careened out of control during their 11-year marriage. He says he loves her so much he goes to extremes to watch her every move. He's tracked her with a GPS device, listened to her phone conversations, trapped her in their home and alienated her from her friends and family. But is there something more sinister Jeffrey's done that he's been hiding? Jennifer says she's ready to leave her controlling and jealous husband once and for all. Has she been up to no good, and is Jeffrey justified in his snooping? Jeffrey wants to save his marriage and family, but is Jennifer willing to stand by him? Dr. Phil unravels the jealously, lies and abuse to see if this marriage can be saved, or if it's really Jennifer who needs to be saved from Jeffrey. Talk about the show here.

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April 26, 2007, 6:02 pm PDT

04/26 Obsessive Love

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I've said before that I DON'T AGREE AT ALL WITH WHAT HE'S DONE, but she is no angel mind you.  Everything that happens in this world is due to cause and effect.  Correct me if I'm wrong , but if she played her part as a loving wife and mother - I really don't think this situation would have been or at least not to the extent it has come to. 

 

Let me break it down for you .. I was very controlling and obsessive and jealous when I first married my husband - WHY?? he gave me every reason to be.  I did the tape recorder under the seat, the spying the hacking into myspace accounts I did it all but lock him in the basement - AND WHERE DID THAT GET ME ? NOWHERE. No we got married very young - I was 20 and he was 22.  I wanted to do the whole bar thing and the whole flirt thing too - we wound up treating each other like we hated each other.  It was always a anything you can do I can do better situation.  My heart goes out to both of them because they really need God or at the least - some good counseling.  YOu can't treat your spouse as if they are the enemy when the enemy is on the outside .  She needs to grow up and act like a woman , a mother and a wife.  NOT A TRICK!  i TOO HAVE myspace but there are definitely no pictures of me bending over in a bikini or any provocative ones .  POint being she needs to grow the hell up already.  You want him to be a protective provider for you then get angry when he is that - treat the guy like he's nothing to you - cheat on him - disrespect him..I mean what do you expect?  But on the other hand - he's driven himself to the point where I doubt he differentiates between reality and his world.  It's sad... I just hope Dr. phil breaks her down as he did him... she's no innocent little girl here ( I will say it over and over again.. ) and all the posts I keep saying are get out he's gonna kill you and blah blah blah .. he put himself on tv pleading for help - it's a cry for help .. i mean what else would drive you to the point to humiliate yourself like that on national t.v. other than wanting help??  I hope they both get what they need and then and only then can they make the decision to split or stay together.

YOu must have been able to get alot more insight to the show than I did to be able to make this comment. OR maybe the comment is made purely from an obsessive person's view.

 
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April 26, 2007, 6:02 pm PDT

jennifer

i,too,was in an obsessive and abusive marriage.  that being said, however, i need to know something.  is dr phil going to deal with jennifer's issues about her being out a bar late at night when she has 3 children at home.  also is dr phil going to comment on her affairs, or what?

 

 

 
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April 26, 2007, 6:02 pm PDT

Don't walk... RUN

Jen, Jen, Jen,

 

Get away from that psychotic, manipulative mad man!!!  There is NOTHING that gives him the right to do 1/10th of what he's done to you and I guarantee, it will only get worse.  Not only should you fear for yourself (that obviously hasn't made enough of an impact to wake you up) but FEAR FOR YOUR CHILDREN!  Think about what he's done.  Think of the fact that he will do ANYTHING to control you.  What better way than to do it through your children.  You have a family and friends.  Don't think about anything but getting away from him and protecting yourself and your children because that man is SICK!  

 

You're a beautiful woman!  What are you doing subjecting yourself and your kids to this idiot!  And "Yes Jeff, I'm a woman".  And "No Jeff, I'm not a lesbian"

 
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April 26, 2007, 6:02 pm PDT

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There is no reason on this earth that any one should be treated this way or have to go through something like this. Even if she did cheat ( I am not justifying cheating. If he did not want to deal with the fact she cheated, he should of left her. I was with a man similar to him and I never cheated. The bottom line is, they do not need a reason. This is stemed from obsessiveness and severe insecurities. All the marriage counceling in the world will do a person like this no good. He has to work on himself, by himself. He has severe issues and severe mental illness. I ended up leaving the situation I was in by moving out of town. Just to be found, my life threatened and could of ended up killed. They justify everything they do. They feel in their head they are the only ones right and that no one understands. I had to move to were he does not know where I am and start a new life from basically nothing, and I have kids too. Thanks to people I got to know from some womans groups we got through it and are doing great now. I look back and see things I didnt see at that time as I am sure she doesnt see everything or the extent of how dangerous things are or how dangerous things could get. When Dr. Phill asked me if he drugged her, I gasped, my ex drugged me on numerous occasions and to one extent I was in the hospital. This woman needs to speak to someone and come up with a game plan to get out and disapear. She can have a life and a good one with her kids away from this man.  If she confronts him befor she leaves or shares her ideas of leaving he will keep trying to stop her and do whatever to whatever extent it takes to stop her. She needs a safe game plan to get away from him.
 
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April 26, 2007, 6:02 pm PDT

How True

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It's wonderful that you are seeing the issue from both sides, as I'm sure Dr. Phil will take into consideration as well.  This woman has no friends, no life, no individuality, no freedom or sense of self due to the restrictions this man has placed on her for years.  He obviously has a serious problem.  She seems to be devoid of any real love for him other than as the father of her kids.  He has erased the rest of that because of his actions.  She's trying to hold onto any sense of connections or likeability toward others that she can--and he takes them away time and time again.  She feels like she has no resources or way to escape her imprisonment from him.  And bottom line--if he doesn't trust her and constantly demeans her why does he want to hold on? Because he's obsessively possessive of her and sees her as his propery "until death do us part".  She needs to find herself before she even entertains the thought of making her marriage work.  She married him when she was 19 after knowing him for only a couple of months and he was 30. She needs to find the path to herself and her own happiness, but I don't believe she caused her husband to act the way he does. The problem goes much much deeper than that.

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April 26, 2007, 6:03 pm PDT

Marriage this AIN'T

What a loser.  How dare he call his marriage vows into this psycho trap he's woven around his wife!!!  ARRGH, it makes me so sick I could scream.  That isn't a MARRIAGE!!!  HOW DARE HE call it that!!!  I wouldn't let him around a garden slug, let alone a wife.  Lock this loser creep up and throw away the key.  I'd be happy to melt it down.

 

Once again, EWWWWW!!!!  How dare he use the word marriage!!!  Gross gross GROSS!!!

 
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April 26, 2007, 6:03 pm PDT

The out of control husband

Personally I think that she is in very serious danger both mentally and physically because of his ways and the  sooner she leaves him the better the situation should get ( hope fully !! ) .  I have been in 1 very abusive marriage both mentally and physically to where my now ex-wife would verbally abuse me then the physical part would start and lord only knows when that would end.

If she was smart about this she would consult an attorney to find out what legal avenues she has and to get some major counseling because this situation could untimately lead to disaster

 

 

The husband needs to have a restraining order put on him if this has not been done in the past

and may also need to go be sent to an inpatient facility away from her so he cannot get to her.

Obviously he has no intention of stopping this so someone will have to force this on him.   Ty

 
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April 26, 2007, 6:03 pm PDT

OH MY GOD

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I hate how people are blaming her for the cheating and stuff. WELL DAMMIT! They were only together for 2 months and she was already pregnant when they got married!!!!!!!!! He totally pushed her into it and she was only what? 19? She didnt know what to do! She was scared and she thought she had no choice. He has been doing this from the very VERY start of the relationship and I greatly appreciate you putting this post up because Im sick to death of those bpzp's who feel like blaming her because of the cheating.

 

And she did cheat, yes. However. Dont get involoved with a young woman barely mature enough to make a decision such as marriage and expect her not to cheat if you start acting like an ass.

 

And yes she flirts and what not, but right now she will take whatever attention she can get to make her feel better about herself beccause she feels dead inside and no matter if she did or didnt do the flirting, cheating etc, he would treat her like this anyways so she might as well try and make herself feel good occasionally.

 

And there have been many commenting that she 'laughed' on the show. She wasnt laughing because it was funny you fools. That was a 'I can't believe this' laugh...an uncomfortable laugh...a 'I just want to die' laugh. This whole thing she cant believe she has gotten into. Why in the world would she think it was funny?

Before I read all the replies, I repled on part of my life, but reading all the signs of abuse, I said to myself, holy cow, I lived through each and every one of them. The isolation, I must say is the worst. He took every friend I ever had, and I lost them. Not a one of them would come to see me, and I was not allowed out of the house when he was home. NEVER, not even go to the grocery store without him, or he would read the receipt for a time stamp, and gage how long it took me to get home. He also wanted to know who I saw in the store, if I talked to anyone, etc.
I was kept a slave, and never knew it. I was a very young bride, and thought every marriage was like that. What did I know? I worked until we had kids. Then both pregnacies were difficult, so I stayed home alot while pregnant. Then the babies came, and I stayed home with them for 17 years, because he had me beliving I would and could never get a job, because i was too stupid. He actually told me I wasn't qualified to clean other people's toliets. This kept me home for 17 years. While he was on one of his business trips out of the country, I applied for a job, and guess what I got it. Yea for me. Although it didn't last long, I proved I could do a job. It was an administrative assistant to a real estate company. Well it didn't last long, cause the boss told me my family and me were nuts, we crazy, and I had it out with him. This was my first step to learning how to sick up for myself. I ended up quitting that job, and moved on to others. I ended up at a private University, working in a job I love now.
This was a definate abused wife case. One I had no idea I was in. Not until I got out into the real world, and learned that this behavior was not normal, nor acceptable. Boy did that cause upheaveal in my home.
We've made it though, through the hard times, through the emotional and other types of abuse, and I can honestly say I am content right now. That's all I can hope for. I am over 50, and dont mind they type of life I live now. Alot of the times, I'm alone. He' s out at his buddies house drinking, and I'm home watching TV with the dogs. LOL. It's okay though I like it this way. This is MY decision not any one elses.

 
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April 26, 2007, 6:04 pm PDT

47 years ago

there were no shelters, protection orders (that were enforced) or even 15 signs to tell me in early 60's. i was 21 had 4 kids and it was all 15 signs, abuse included that my husband exhibted.  i got out, barely, today i am 63, kids have suffered, but survived having that man for a father and he is dead. sorry he's dead, no.
 
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April 26, 2007, 6:04 pm PDT

so right

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The best part of this show is this guy is now exposed on national television, and when his wife finally does leave him, their won't be a women on this planet that will give him a chance.

amen! and I hope no one forgets his face!
 
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