Topic : 04/26 Obsessive Love

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“When I think I’ve seen it all, then I get a wake-up call,” Dr. Phil says of his guests who are involved in a very intense relationship. Jeffrey's obsession with his wife, Jennifer, has careened out of control during their 11-year marriage. He says he loves her so much he goes to extremes to watch her every move. He's tracked her with a GPS device, listened to her phone conversations, trapped her in their home and alienated her from her friends and family. But is there something more sinister Jeffrey's done that he's been hiding? Jennifer says she's ready to leave her controlling and jealous husband once and for all. Has she been up to no good, and is Jeffrey justified in his snooping? Jeffrey wants to save his marriage and family, but is Jennifer willing to stand by him? Dr. Phil unravels the jealously, lies and abuse to see if this marriage can be saved, or if it's really Jennifer who needs to be saved from Jeffrey. Talk about the show here.

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April 26, 2007, 3:33 pm PDT

04/26 Obsessive Love

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Hi Dr.Phil

 

I totally agree that the guy made a lot of wrong and horrible things.

But why are only questiong the GUY for his wrong doings and not the LADY who CHEATED on HIM TWICE ? I understand that you didn't have much time to cover everything related to the topic today. So are you going to do that in tomorrow show ? Because I think that's one of the root causes. 

 

I always believed in you, becauses you were a fair-minded person, and I hope you stay fair-minded person and I hop you show it in tomorrow show.

 

I don't defend and justify the guy's behavior.I just understand what has triggered him to do what he has done and understand what has given him the rights.He has been cheated TWICE by his wife and he is termendously angry and sick and he has a big painful chip on his shoulder because of those cheatings and he feels the pain every day and he wants to heal himself, BUT HE DOENS'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT .

ok, compare this then

 

Jennifer-

cheating twice

going to bars

seeing pictures of guys butts

 

Jeff

GPS tracker on her

tape recorders in her car and phone

locking Jennifer in the basement telling the kids she was crazy

fake vasectimy

calling people from work asking and saying ridculious things about her

looking through her personal things

logging on her myspace account

calling her slut and other mean words

and much more

 

HE IS PHYSCIALLY, MENTALLY, AND EMOTIONALLY ABUSING HER, SHE DIDNT START OR BEGIN THIS. IT IS IN HIS NATURE TO DO THIS. HE WOULD HAVE DONE THIS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. ALSO, HES GONE FAR BEYOND HELP IN ANYWAY, HE SHOULD JUST BE SENT TO JAIL, AND NEVER LET OUT.

 

 

 
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April 26, 2007, 3:33 pm PDT

Istitutionalize this man

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 I couldn't agree with Butterfly88 more.

 

Although, it seems obvious this guy has been driven over the lines of obsession.

 

 You have to wonder why ? 

 

She had an affair 8 years ago. Has their marriage always been like this. Or...did it just come about when he first found out she was a "cheater"

 

Is she "cheating" because of the way he is ?

 

None of this has been addressed thus far.

 

But ...IMHO..this woman needs help for her infidelity. Why has this not been addressed yet ?Meeting guys in bars from online chats ?? Having affairs, posting pics of herself online half naked, without  including her family, friends, and children. She's trying to live this teenage life ! GROW UP WOMAN... this woman is looking for trouble. If her husband doesn't  do her in..

MAYBE ONE OF HER ONLINE LOVERS WILL !!!!!

 

LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE PEOPLE...was he this way when they got married. ???

Then big "DUH" to her for marrying him in the first place...!!!

 

SHEESH !!!

 

 

My thought was "where were the police" , where are the guys with straight jackets, this man is mentally ill and she will NEVER have a life until he is locked up.  How can reconcillation even be considered.  He is sick, sick, sick!  Maybe she's not the most stable, maybe he drove her to it.  How can you separate out the cause and effect.  Get her away from him before he does something that cannot be reversed!
 
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April 26, 2007, 3:33 pm PDT

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Part of me wonders if this isn't one of those situation where both parties are getting off on this behavior...she's not ready to leave him?  Part of me wonders if she really likes being the object of his obsession...if she doesn't really like it.
I can't believe you think that. Evidently you or anyone you know has NEVER been in this situation.  Couldn't you see the pain this poor girl was in?  When you have no where to go and no one to help you, you learn to live with it.  It's ignorance and denial from people like you that keep women like her from getting the help they really need. MEN like him should be locked up and the key thrown away. He will NEVER change.
 
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April 26, 2007, 3:33 pm PDT

Get out fast

This is to Jennifer 

     Jennifer I am an ER RN and I have seen what men like you husband are capable of, they will do ANYTHING to keep you under their control including kill or do great physical and emotional damage to you.  Let me tell you about one of my patients who husband set her on fire in her bed because she was threaten to leave him.  Don't tell him your gong to do JUST DO IT!  I know that you don't want to believe that he would hurt you but he is unpredictable and dangerous.  Please for the safety of yourself and your children get out.

 

Margaret

 
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April 26, 2007, 3:33 pm PDT

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  This dude, Jeffrey, is crazy.  I am glad for Jennifer that crazy man contacted the show to get .....her straightened out.  All signs of this relationship point to homicide, and I'm not sure which would be in the body bag leaving the house because this guy has pushed her emotions way over what is and should be bearable for a wife.  He is making her question her own sanity.  These poor folks need some serious, serious help, and attention.  This situation is sad and way to common.
Are you people deaf and blind?? Do you not see and hear both sides of this story? Poor Jennifer?? The wife AND the husband have brought this onto themselves and should have gotten divorced when HE saw these signs in the very begining of the relationship which led him to start acting this way!! What married, respectable, woman posts pictures of herself in these types of provocative ways on a site like myspace? Do you people not know what myspace is?? She has been cought sneaking out with her male friends from work to go drinking at a bar! Again, what respectable MOTHER goes out drinking with male coworkers without telling her husband about it beforehand, if she knew this was something that would cause problems in their relatinoship why do it to begin with? She asks guys on the internet to send naked pictures of themselves to her, for what? AGAIN, what respectable woman, mother does these types of things? The actions of her husband are in no way right or even accaptable, but this is why we have a thing called divorce!!! Can you guys for one second look at this from the husbands point of view? Dr. Phil asks what gives him the right to call her a whore or a slut? What about all the things that led up to that point which she did to make herself look that way? And she reacts in anger calling him fat and bald? What gives HER the right?? I am sure these problems didnt come from his lack of respect for his wife, she lost his trust along the way and kept on doing things that did not make her look any better and blamed her actions on his outburst of anger which he had every right to be angry about in the first place! You mess up, i have a right to be angry with you correct? It is YOU who is responsible fix things, you have no right to blame your actions on my being angry with you! This is absolutly rediculous!!!!!
 
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April 26, 2007, 3:33 pm PDT

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I watched it today and heard that Jennifer has repeatedly cheated on her husband and lied about where she is going and who she is with.  That does not make his behavior acceptable but I can understand his lack of trust.  She  is not  trustworthy and he has been betrayed repeatedly.  It seems these facts haven't been taken into consideration at all.  Everyone is just throwing a pity party for Jennifer who seems to be enjoying playing victim.  I don't agree with Jeff's behavior but Jennifer is not innocent in this at all either.  Just as he is being held accoutable for his actions, She needs to be held accountable also.  I think this marriage could be saved if they are both commited to it, but since she has had affairs I don't think she is trying.  I AM NOT SAYING JEFF IS RIGHT.  But I think we can cut him some slack since he's been denied all sexual release for an extended period of time in addition to finding that his wife has tainted their marriage bed more than once.  Just my opinion.
He shouldn't be cut ANY slack - he's sick and needs help!
 
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April 26, 2007, 3:33 pm PDT

He Needs HELP, FAST!

Hello, Dr. Phil.  For thirty (30) years, I worked for a Police Department.  I was in the Records Section, but I had to read some reports for Data Entry.  I thought that I had seen just about everything, until I watched part of your show today.  (That was due to bad weather.)  I was totally mezmerized by this guy's answers!  It's as though he's saying that he doesn't need professional help because he's afraid of losing his wife.  I feel sorry for the wife in a way.  She needs a little help, too.  However, if I were in HER SHOES, I don't know what I would do, except to get out of this marriage before something else happens!

 

Sincerely,

Barb

 
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April 26, 2007, 3:33 pm PDT

WHY ARE YOU STILL THERE???

I have seen too many of these stories, and I don't understand why you are still with this obsessive creature of a man? All these kind of cases normally end up in homicide or suicide. After all of what he's done to you, how can you manage to stay, because of the kids? I'm sorry, but children can have wonderful relationships with their parents while separated. I have four children, and two of them has a father who is in their lives. Maybe not as much as they would like because we are in different states, but he's around and makes them happy.  This man has put you through hell! I mean for goodness sake, he sabotaged your income to where you would have to depend solely on him, he ruined your reputation at work and caused you to get fired, he purposely turns up the heat so you can take your clothes off so he can watch, and he's went beyond the extreme when he installed the GPS tracking devices to hear your every conversation and watch your every move. He's more than obsessed, he's SICK. He really needs help, because he gets off on establishing and maintaining control. Once it's gone, he's going to lose his mind and really become a problem. There is no reason whatsoever for you to stay in this marriage. It's UNHEALTHY. He's invaded your privacy in many ways because he feel since you've cheated in the past that he cannot trust you. Why succumb yourself to this emotional distress? All it does is make you want to cheat on him more and leave quicker. Don't wait until you get an incentive to actually leave, because it can get ugly. I suggest you do it right after the show or while you are on the Dr. Phil show, and get protection while you are at it. Beat him at his own game. If you continue to stay in this sham of a marriage, you will end up hurt or worse. Your husband has made a fool of himself on national television, and has shown the world what type of predator he really is. I hope no woman dates him after this show airs. His behavior is what make good women go bad. Even if you cheated on him, you two have been together for about 11 years, and it's highly evident that he hasn't forgiven you nor does he trust you. Why would he even go to the lengths of making you miserable, keeping tabs on you, and locking you in the basement? Why not just move on? A fake vasectomy? I wanted to jump through the screen and beat him to a pulp! All I could do is shake my head when he confessed to the sick stuff he was doing to you. I have to tell you, a person will only go as far as you let them, and it's time that you take control and leave him helpless. If I were you, I'd get a new identity, change my name first and last, and move far, far, away from him with protection. His life would be a living hell without controlling you or what you do, and that's too bad for him! Please go with your gut and leave this man before he destroys your inner being and even go as far as killing you. You have beautiful children, and that's all you need to get you through this mess. Take them out of that hell hole of an environment and get your life together. You do not need him, and I am positive Dr. Phil will help you get on your feet and change your life around. You need someone who will be there for you mentally and physically. You need someone who trusts you, loves you unconditionally and mean it! You need someone who will nurture you, not destroy you. What you have is NOT love. Obsession can be deadly. Have you ever read the novel or seen the movie "The Great Gatsby?"  Jay Gatsby's obsession with his past love Daisy Buchanan lead to his untimely death. He was a poor young man with nothing, and mysteriously came into some money. He then bought a big mansion where he had parties every night and never attended them, because he had high hopes of seeing Daisy there. Once he found her, he realized she was married. She was spoiled, beautiful, and loved the luxurious life. He even went as far as telling Daisy's husband she didn't love him and that she was leaving him. Things got bad, and one day Daisy was driving Gatsby's car, which hit the mistress of her husband and killed the woman. Mr. Wilson, who was the husband of Mrs. Wilson (lady hit by Daisy) was devastated to find his wife had been hit by that pretty yellow car. He found out that the car belonged to Gatsby, came to his house, and shot him dead in the back while laying on a float in his pool, then shot and killed himself.  The moral of the story is that obsession can become very deadly, especially if it's based on lies, deception, and manipulation. This is what's going on in your marriage. Although I have never been a victim and I pray I don't ever become one, I feel you should leave this man A.S.A.P! There are many women who barely escape with their lives! When I saw on CNN the woman who almost lost her life because of her obsessive boyfriend.  She broke it off with this man, he got upset, came to her job, poured gasoline out of a Sprite bottle all over her in front of customers, and set her on fire. This woman almost died! She went through extensive surgeries just to make her look human again. She's been over all the news channels and lives to tell her story. There's no need for you to be in this marriage, because it's not love. IT'S OBSESSION! LEAVE HIM! YOU CAN DO BETTER!

 
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April 26, 2007, 3:34 pm PDT

jENNIFER DOESNT = VICTEM

ok...it just seems like you wanted to be the "hot wifey" for a older man....now the novelty has worn off (for you) but he is still going on and on.......he was probably always the same (cuz how could you NOT know, i mean come on...) but now you are the one who is changing....its called growing up....it usually happens after 19.....just my 2 cents
 
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April 26, 2007, 3:34 pm PDT

Leave him.......

You have to pull yourself together, gather those precious children and GET OUT.  I'm sure Dr. Phil will be able to give you some direction and assistance in making this happen.  I don't believe your husband CAN change without INTENSE therapy for a very long period of time.  I wish you and your children the very best and will be thinking of you all until Dr. Phil gives us an update that all is well in your life!
 

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