Topic : 04/26 Obsessive Love

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“When I think I’ve seen it all, then I get a wake-up call,” Dr. Phil says of his guests who are involved in a very intense relationship. Jeffrey's obsession with his wife, Jennifer, has careened out of control during their 11-year marriage. He says he loves her so much he goes to extremes to watch her every move. He's tracked her with a GPS device, listened to her phone conversations, trapped her in their home and alienated her from her friends and family. But is there something more sinister Jeffrey's done that he's been hiding? Jennifer says she's ready to leave her controlling and jealous husband once and for all. Has she been up to no good, and is Jeffrey justified in his snooping? Jeffrey wants to save his marriage and family, but is Jennifer willing to stand by him? Dr. Phil unravels the jealously, lies and abuse to see if this marriage can be saved, or if it's really Jennifer who needs to be saved from Jeffrey. Talk about the show here.

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April 26, 2007, 6:04 pm PDT

47 years ago

there were no shelters, protection orders (that were enforced) or even 15 signs to tell me in early 60's. i was 21 had 4 kids and it was all 15 signs, abuse included that my husband exhibted.  i got out, barely, today i am 63, kids have suffered, but survived having that man for a father and he is dead. sorry he's dead, no.
 
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April 26, 2007, 6:04 pm PDT

so right

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The best part of this show is this guy is now exposed on national television, and when his wife finally does leave him, their won't be a women on this planet that will give him a chance.

amen! and I hope no one forgets his face!
 
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April 26, 2007, 6:04 pm PDT

Girl Get Out

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I feel sorry for Jennifer, and if her life is really as bad as it sounds, her name may be in the obituary one day soon!  Unless Jeffrey gets help immediately, she better run for her life!!!  I am in a similar situation.

I am in my 50's and I am unemployed.  It is next to impossible to find a good job if you are over 50 unless you have some kind of College Degree.  I can't afford to go to school as my husband is disabled and I am unemployed.  Social Security Disability is not enough for anyone to live off of and that is all we have coming in.  I have to charge my Health Insurance on my credit card, as I am scared to be without Health Insurance.  I live in a small town in southeastern NC, so there are very few jobs around here.  I have been trying to get a job with the State of North Carolina, since they have good benefits and good insurance.  The jobs that I have applied for do not require a college degree and I know that I am qualified because of my 20+ years of experience working for Attorneys.  I have heard people say that if you are over 50 the State of NC will not hire you, unless you have a very impressive degree or know someone with connections.  That is a shame when there is supposed to be a law about Age Discrimination.  Some friends of mine, who are also over 50, say they have the same problem.  The thing is that we are at an age that our children are grown and gone and we are at a point in our lives that we can, want to and would love to find a good job.  We would probably be the most dedicated employees that any Company would ever have.  It seems like most employers want to hire the young, pretty girls that may or may not have a College Degree, but from my experience in working at different places, the people with EXPERIENCE ended up being much more valuable to the employer than the young ones.  The last job that I had, I noticed that all of the young employees had cell phones that they stayed on many times during the day when they were supposed to be working and they had absolutely no respect for the boss whatsoever.   You need to have a Powerful Show about this problem in NC and I am sure that this is probably the same problem in all of the USA!!!

Anyway back to my home problem.  A few months ago my husband put a gun to my head.  I was in total shock and was at a point that I just didn't care if he shot me or not.  If I go to the grocery store, he times me, and if it takes longer than he thinks it should, I catch hell when I get home.  You just wouldn't believe all of the things that I have gone through.  I have nowhere to go to live.  All of my family lives way out of State.  They might would take me in if I asked, but I have always taken care of myself and I am just too ashamed to ask for help.  I was offered a loan to go to school, but I know how hard it would be to pay it back whenever I finished school and maybe finally found a good job, so I am scared to borrow the money.  I have excellent credit and don't want to damage it.  If I just had a College Degree and a good job, I think that I should be able to make it on my own.  There should be some kind of Government help or Private Charities that help people like me!!!

RideSallyRide

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I'm praying for you and Jennifer.  You need to get out of your situation.  There are Women Shelters in every state I know.  It's better to be broke and alive and start your life over because this relationship sounds like it's going to end terrible.

 

Please get out!

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April 26, 2007, 6:04 pm PDT

get out

That marriage has to end.  I could not believe what I was hearing.  She needs to take herself and the children and get out now!  Would her parents or other family members be able to put her and the kids up until she gets on her feet?  Because I know if this was my daughter or sister I would do anything to help her.  That man is just NUTS.  Nobody should be subjected to that kind of treatment.  I wish her all the best.

 
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April 26, 2007, 6:05 pm PDT

i bet

ibet when they left the show today they went  to there room and had some fun with each other becouse she  likes all of the atention she is getting off on this i think they r both to blame
 
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April 26, 2007, 6:05 pm PDT

Open Your Eyes Dr. Phil!!

Dr. Phil you've got this one all wrong!!!!!  You're giving that wife all the sympathy and making her  quite the victim.  I don't think you've been watching her actions quite as closely as you've been watching and listening to him.  I'm no psychiatrist, but there's gotta be one of two things going on here...

If that would have been the man cheating in the beginning, going out to the bars with his friends, putting sexy pictures on the internet, and just plain driving his wife crazy ignoring her like she is him, but keeping in touch with his buddies, you would have called him a dog and told him to get back in touch with reality... be the married man he was, and start giving his wife the loving attention she needed.  Also, some of the kinky sex stuff they are into makes it impossible for one or both of the people in the relationship to feel secure.  You could see the smirk on her face when she was talking about being undressed when she woke up.  She wasn't scared or freaked out.  There's something else going on there... Plus, there's the pictures THEY showed to other men...

The other scenerio could be that this man has truly lost it as a result of this woman cheating on him.  How could you and four (?) other drs. possibly miss that, though.  If that is the case, and he is THAT sick, doing alll of these off of the wall things, it's strange that no one has admitted him anywhere to give him the extreme help that he needs.  You don't sit there and make fun of a sick man.  AND YOU DO NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE HER ROLES IN THIS, TOO.  I didn't hear anything about what she did to reconcile after she cheated.  He should have left then.  He is not the only one at fault.  She talks about all these girlfriends and people she emails and goes out with.  You know she has someplace else to go if her life is so threatened.  Remember the kind of pictures she's not afraid to share with these people... if she's sending them THOSE kind of pictures, she's already quite intimate with them.

I agree that if they are staying in the relationship and don't get some extreme mental help, they have some kind of sick thing going on.  It's gonna destroy the children, though.  Please keep track of this family for a long time. 

 
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April 26, 2007, 6:05 pm PDT

Dr. Phil - what about the children?

I just hope that Dr. Phil deals with the issue of the children tomorrow.  He is a wonderful advocate for children.  As per my earlier post.  The children are WATCHING and LEARNING how to treat their future partners and/or how to be treated by their future partners.  I don't give a damn about the adults because they both have a CHOICE.  Jeffrey is a very sick puppy and Jennifer is very sick as well.  Their sickness is a CANCER to the family.  The children do NOT have a choice.  Dr. Phil, PLEASE address this issue tomorrow (hope you read these posts) because this is sure to end badly - very badly.  When my Mom left my Dad he threatened to burn the house down, he started to project all of his hatred and anger of my Mother towards me and guess what?  I attempted suicide at 17 years old.  I have been in abusive relationships.  Like you say...this writes on the slates of their soul.  I have had a very hard life striving to "un-do"
 the damage that was done.  I love Dr. Phil's quote...IT IS BETTER TO COME FROM A BROKEN HOME THAN TO LIVE IN ONE!!!!
 

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April 26, 2007, 6:06 pm PDT

cheating to reach out? give me a break!

we can come up with all these ridiculous excuses for her cheating & flirting behaviour. but it is still CHEATING! who in their right mind would cheat not once, but twice, and flirt around knowing that your partner is already paranoid, controlling & obsessive? in her case, to reach out, she should have shaved her head or something like that!

 

i'm sorry. i'm just not buying her story. no matter how i try to feel sorry for her, it just won't happen. i can understand it if her husband wasn't giving her enough attention, or was treating her like a slave, or wasn't appreciating her (he actually said she was a very good mother) or something. but i don't think that was the case here.

 

i really think that they are controlling each other in very different ways... he's controlling her by his obsessiveness, while she is manipulating him with her flirtatious behaviour. she knows her husband won't leave her that's why she has all the courage to do what she's doing.

 

i wonder what would happen if her husband left her... I think she'll miss the attention. because these "close guy friends" that she has right now won't be a bit interested in her anymore once she's single again. or they might just be interested in her for you know what.  

 

the husband should just let her go. let her be free & sleep around all she wants. he hasn't been successful in stopping her anyway. she can do whatever she wants when she wants. no gps tracking system or phone recorders stopped her from cheating! he is just wasting his time & energy with her. and Jennifer, you should LEAVE! don't wait until he kills you after finding out you cheated again!

 

people who have been in an abusive relationship react the way they do because they feel the same feelings they had while they were in that situation. but this case is different. they are both EQUALLY WRONG.

 

 
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April 26, 2007, 6:06 pm PDT

Wow!!!!

 

How sad is the reality that, that beautiful young woman feels that what she has is all she deserves.   I don't think that she is totally innocent either, but when you push someone as far as he has, they are going to snap.  She was probably so desperate for help that she compromised her own principles and values to try and be saved.

That man is the most insecure individual I have ever seen.  He's not fit to be anyone's husband.  He's not even man enough to say "I was wrong"!  He just keeps repeating the same stupid excuse that when he's "in the moment" he knows he's going to be "in trouble" but he doesn't care.  Talk about weasling your way out of doing the right thing!  Why doesn't he just keep saying "I don't know why I do it"......at least he wouldn't look like such an idiot!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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April 26, 2007, 6:06 pm PDT

He might kill her...

Domestic homicide happens when the woman tries to leave.  I just hope she finds somewhere to go and get her and the kids away from that crazy guy!  He's not safe to be with, just leave already!  I would have with the whole fake vasectomy- that would be it!
 

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