Topic : 04/26 Obsessive Love

"Define a "normal marriage," between two imperfect people?"

A commitment between two people who work together, respect each other, support each other and LOVE each other. Two people who want to LIVE their lives together.

I see NONE of that here.

"A marriage is NOT just a piece of paper."

For THIS couple it is. Nothing else about them is "married"...just that legal piece of paper that ties them together.

"It is a promise made between a man and a woman before God."

I'm married and I don't believe in God. God has nothing to do with my marriage.

BTW, I, no where, in my post used the word "normal"...

OK.....The previews for the continuation of this drama look pretty scary.  Husband is beginning to appear a little psychotic.  Guess we will have to wait and see......., but my gut is telling me to tell the wife to run....fast and far away.

You are absolutely right,  you did not use the word normal, but I never quoted you.  I simply took what you said and as a human being perceived what you were trying to say.  If I offended you, I sincerely apologize.  But I want you to know that in my heart my intentions were genuine..  What I was trying to say but failed miserably was no two marriages are completely alike.  I am sure there are  Christian marriages that do not desire to stay in God's Word and they live for themselves.  That is probably more of the norm or at least one might draw that conclusion when hearing God's message to them through their Pastor..  Even when a person becomes born-again it doesn't mean that we don't sin because we do.  Some people have the misconception that Christians should act a certain way or we cannot be Christian.  That is a false conception.  The only differance between a Christian and a Non-Christian is a Christian has acknowledged and accepted that they are a sinner, and in their heart they believe Jesus Christ died for their sins.  Some will grow and bear spiritual fruit and some will not.  Thanks for bringing up my mistake so that I could clarify my intentions.  You responding to me in that way reflects that you are a good communicator and I respect your candidness and level of maturity.  May God Bless You!

 Generally there are social service agencies that can offer assistance for people who are unemployed, in bad marriages, need help getting the basics to sustain life.  I would check out Catholic Charities or Jewish Family Services. They usually have such agencies in most counties in the state. The Catholic Charities and JFS offer both counseling services as well as social workers who can help you get connected to whatever aide the State and Counties have to offer. Often times there are services to assist you in finding a job - they help with resume writing, interview skills, etc.  Sometimes you can even find such services through your local Unemployment Office.  You also might want to check with whatever large hospitals are in your area, they often have a free MH clinic which can not only provide counselling to assist with the marital issues and helping to increase your own self esteem but also have SW who too can help connect you to State and County Services. As just a shot in the dark you might want to peruse your blue pages in the telephone book and look under the different County and State agencies to see if there are any programs such as OVR - Occupational - Vocational Rehab which can assist you in finding a job.  You might also want to call "The United Way" - if they cannot help you directly they may have a "Where To Turn" program list (many social service agencies carry one of their own listing all program in the County, divided up by Category such as Abuse Counseling, Drug and Alcohol Treatment, etc) which they can consult and direct you to an appropriate program.   Don't give up hope - whenever the doors seem to be all closed, God opens a window somewhere, just look for it.  I wish you much luck and will keep you in my prayers.

You didn't offend me, I just don't like to be misquoted, and you did use quotes, so you can understand why I thought you did.

Sorry if I came off harsh. I am hard sometimes when I am in my "debate" mode, something I am working to soften.

Dear Penny Lady,

 

I need to apologize to you!  I wrote my last message, turned off the computer, got in the shower and realized that I DID use quotation marks when I typed normal marriage.  I am in my forty-somethings and somewhat of a space cadet!  I was not quoting you, I shouldn't  have used quotation marks, but instead typed normal marriage in italics or bold print.  When I write and I am quoting someone verbatum, I use the quotations, but then I always put said (and whoever's name actually made the statement.)  I should know better since I do teach my son English.  I made a big boo-boo and can understand why you would have thought that I was quoting you.  (I would have thought the same)  If you knew me and my character, I think you would realize I was telling you the truth.  I grew up with a Dad that lied all of the time.  My biggest pet peve is lying and I hold myself to a very high standard NOT to be dishonest to others because I disliked it so much.  I want you to know that I am very tired, but I wanted to type this out tonight, so that hopefully you would read both of my messages together, so that we would not have any more mis-understandings.  I definately need improvement in the area of clear communication.  I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me!  By the way, I really respect you for admitting your short comings.  Some people have a difficult time with that! :)  Have an awesome day! 

I believe you, before message boards and chat rooms got italics and bold I used to do the same thing...or I used to use asterisks to emphasize something.

I get a little feisty sometimes...LOL

And I am only 28, but I do know what it's like to be tired and spacey...LOL..(I had a daughter 3 years ago and I only now feel like I'm exiting the baby fog! LOL)

I am sure we won't see eye to eye on everything if we meet on the boards again, atheist and Christians often don't..but I am glad to meet someone I can respect and who seems to feel the same towards me.

Have a good day. :o)

I think it would be useful if you reviewed the transcripts of this show. He was ALWAYS, right from the beginning of their marriage, accusing her of infidelity even when she was a pregnant 19 year old. That proves in fact, his controlling and paranoid nature pre-dated any affair she had.
What kind of man prevents a 19 year old from having any of her family and friends at her own wedding? Helloooo.
Ergo, that means your argument flies out the window.
Plus the guy was married previously and apparently from a radio show I listened to online in which Jennifer's mother was interviewed, he exhibited this same behavior with his first wife.

I'd have an affair too if I had to live with this mascot making freak.

Since it's clear from the previews that Jeffrey continued his manipulative activities while at Creative Care, ever wonder if he is responsible for some of the postings to this message board blaming Jennifer for what happened?


Jeffrey, is that you???

Things that make you go hmmm...I wouldn't put anything past this guy