Topic : 04/26 Obsessive Love

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Created on : Friday, April 20, 2007, 02:39:18 pm
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“When I think I’ve seen it all, then I get a wake-up call,” Dr. Phil says of his guests who are involved in a very intense relationship. Jeffrey's obsession with his wife, Jennifer, has careened out of control during their 11-year marriage. He says he loves her so much he goes to extremes to watch her every move. He's tracked her with a GPS device, listened to her phone conversations, trapped her in their home and alienated her from her friends and family. But is there something more sinister Jeffrey's done that he's been hiding? Jennifer says she's ready to leave her controlling and jealous husband once and for all. Has she been up to no good, and is Jeffrey justified in his snooping? Jeffrey wants to save his marriage and family, but is Jennifer willing to stand by him? Dr. Phil unravels the jealously, lies and abuse to see if this marriage can be saved, or if it's really Jennifer who needs to be saved from Jeffrey. Talk about the show here.

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May 9, 2007, 7:16 am PDT

Obsessive Love

The more I read the comments regarding Jeff & Jennifer, the more I feel that there is something more to this story.  If not, then why in the world would she want to stay with someone like him?  Jennifer does not seem to be a very strong person when it comes to her husband.  It is obvious that he does intimidate her.  I actually feel bad for both of them.  Jeff is not the kind of person I would defend, especially the behaviors he has displayed.   But he does need help and I hope that Dr. Phil can get through to him.  If he loves his wife as he claims, then he would do anything it takes to change the behavior to better himself and try to salvage his relationship with her.  He did take the first step by contacting Dr. Phil, but I don't think he realized what would happen.  I hold the highest regard for Dr. Phil and I believe that he will do what ever he can to help this couple, but first you have to be willing to accept the help.  Does Jeff really want help?  Or is he just putting on a show to make Jennifer believe that he wants to get help? 

 

I do not encourage divorce, but would not say that if the marriage cannot be saved, don't stay in that relationship.  I had a sister who was married to a man that beat her, kept her drunk so he could abuse her and even went as far as to sell his 9 year old daughter to sleazy sick men for sex. (those children were taken from my sister and her husband and were wards of state, one of which now lives with me)   When she would try to protect her children, he would beat her.  She did finally get away from him and she tried to get her life and her children back.  But unfortunately, my sister died because of what he had done to her.  He went to prison and there he later died.  My sister is gone because of an abusive man and I would tell anyone who is in a situation where the spouse is controlling, abusive or in any way other than a loving person to get out now, before it is too late.   It is just not worth it if he is going to harm her or the children (emotionally or physically).  No one deserves to be treated like that.  I hope that Jennifer can move on in her life and be happy.  We all deserve to be happy and loved.  Good luck to you both, I hope you can mend this marriage if it is worth saving, or just be able to move on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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May 9, 2007, 11:43 am PDT

obsessive love

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I believe you, before message boards and chat rooms got italics and bold I used to do the same thing...or I used to use asterisks to emphasize something.

I get a little feisty sometimes...LOL

And I am only 28, but I do know what it's like to be tired and spacey...LOL..(I had a daughter 3 years ago and I only now feel like I'm exiting the baby fog! LOL)

I am sure we won't see eye to eye on everything if we meet on the boards again, atheist and Christians often don't..but I am glad to meet someone I can respect and who seems to feel the same towards me.

Have a good day. :o)
Thanks for being so understanding!  You have peeked my curiosity as far as being atheist.  The reason being is that since I can remember, I always believed in God and I was not raised in a Christian home.  I was wondering how you believe we were all created?  Because in my opinion when I look around, we know that anything  man made has a creator so it seems logical to me that everything else must have a creator.  Even Charles Darwin who was the Father of Evolution recanted his theory prior to his death, and claimed that there was a God.   Just wondering because honestly I have never known an atheist, except for my Dad.  My Dad who I told you was a liar would tell us that he was an atheist but, a few years before he died, he accepted Christ.  So I think he was lying just like when he told us he worked for the C.I.A.!  Anyway, the over whelming majority of people in this country do believe in God so I am curious because I have an analytical mind and want to try and understand where you are coming from.  Hope you don't mind me asking.  You certainly are alot more mature than I was at your age.  When I was your age, I did not have an open mind.  I WAS EXTREMELY OPIONATED and those who did not agree with me were usually wrong in my mind.  I went through therapy many years ago because I did not like the way I processed things and was a negative thinker, and I believe it helped to me not only to process things differently but, to have a more open mind with people.  By the way, love the butterfly.    
 
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May 10, 2007, 6:27 am PDT

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 I think Jennifer is a very pretty lady, and deserve's a whole lot more than Jeffery.
 
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May 10, 2007, 7:17 am PDT

04/26 Obsessive Love

I don't believe Jennifer is as scared as she seems to look.  Always crying....with no tears.  I do believe her husband has cause to think she is up to no good.  How many woman pose with another woman with their mouth almost kissing.  If she wants out, just leave.  I do think Jen has another man.  Dr. Phil why don't  you ask HER some hard questions.  Also, if he is in her e-mail account why doesn't she just change the code???  I ALSO believe she knows exactly what % of the business and the money she will get..  The Lewis Law Firm is not telling her what she doesn't already know.  She's not as pitiful as she looks.  I think she likes the attention.  I don''t believe most of what she said. 
 
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May 10, 2007, 9:55 am PDT

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 I can't believe that Jennifers husband would spy on her ever move.   That makes me want to tell her husband off and what I think of him.  Its just wrong to do that to a wife because he has to trusted her in what she does alone or when they are together.   He has very low self-esteem its not funny.   I can't believe he would take her clothes off and watch her self naked.   That just really broke the camels back when I saw the show air on tv when I saw it.   He needs to get some serious help if he don't get it she will be one of these wifes died in her home and then he might turn on the kids.    I have read it in the newspapers and saw it on the news.   She should move out and tell him to take a hike and move on and take the kids and get out before it gets worse then it is now.   She is a lovely woman and she can survey on her own and go to work and just try and live without it.  I am afraid as mom and a woman that I would stay with a man that

I know what she is going through I have an ex boyfriend that won't leave me alone.   He is obsessive of me.  I received a letter from him from the county jail where I live in Northern California and it was scary.  He threatened to kill me and my kids because I stood up to him.
He is mentally ill and he thinks everyone is out to get him.   I don't know if there is such a thing to molested women but that is what he did to me and he is to much into sex and its gross to be with him.   In his eyes its making love to me its scary and I am not comfortable with it.   I just don't want Jennifer to have a relationship like that because I am afraid that its going to turn out that way when her husband has sex with her while she is asleep and she doesn't know whats going on if he slips something in a drink and knocks her out. 

I even think its wrong to tell his friends its all right to have sex her and its just wrong.  He needs to go into a center or some counselling where she isn't involved to get the help.

 
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May 10, 2007, 1:46 pm PDT

Jeffrey is a little weasel

The first time that I saw this show I was LMAO when Jeff went into the green room and was hanging over the garbage can, curled up in the fetal position, etc.  I couldn't believe the crap he pulled on his poor wife.

 

When I saw him walk onto the stage today, I realized that he is a really small man (literally & figuretivey).  He tries to excuse every single thing that he does and says what he THINKS every one wants to hear.  He is so apparent!! 

 

And just who was he looking at (supposedely) in the audience - he kept smiling and saying thank you.  What a joke. I'll bet he wasn't even talking to anyone. 

 

I really hope that Jennifer goes through with the separation and divorce.  She deserves much much better and needs to show their children that this type of behavior is unacceptable and not right.

 

I can't wait for tomorrow's show. 

 

Jeffrery needs to have a strong woman kick his ass!  What a loser.

 

((Sorry about my spelling - the spell check wasn't working)).

 
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May 10, 2007, 1:58 pm PDT

04/26 Obsessive Love

Jennifer,

I am very sad to hear of your situation and commend you for having the strength to get out from under him.  I too live in Virginia (Northern) with my husband and children and would like offer any help I can..a place to stay or help with the children ..anything you may need.  You can get my information from Dr. Phil.  I have never been through what you are going through, fortunately I have a wonderful husband, but I can be a great friend if you need one!

 

Please take care of yourself and those beautiful kids!!

 

Best of luck..stay strong!

Danielle

 
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May 10, 2007, 5:34 pm PDT

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I wish you and your children the best Jen.

 

I'm confident that you are on the path to happiness.

 

I know that a divorce is heartbreaking, especially when children are involved, but believe me, you won't regret !

 

In my experience, men like that just don't change after a couple of weeks of therapy. It can help, but I think that this guy will need much more time then that.

 

Send you lots of love and positive carma !

 

Angela

 

 
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May 10, 2007, 5:43 pm PDT

Please get out

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I feel sorry for Jennifer, and if her life is really as bad as it sounds, her name may be in the obituary one day soon!  Unless Jeffrey gets help immediately, she better run for her life!!!  I am in a similar situation.

I am in my 50's and I am unemployed.  It is next to impossible to find a good job if you are over 50 unless you have some kind of College Degree.  I can't afford to go to school as my husband is disabled and I am unemployed.  Social Security Disability is not enough for anyone to live off of and that is all we have coming in.  I have to charge my Health Insurance on my credit card, as I am scared to be without Health Insurance.  I live in a small town in southeastern NC, so there are very few jobs around here.  I have been trying to get a job with the State of North Carolina, since they have good benefits and good insurance.  The jobs that I have applied for do not require a college degree and I know that I am qualified because of my 20+ years of experience working for Attorneys.  I have heard people say that if you are over 50 the State of NC will not hire you, unless you have a very impressive degree or know someone with connections.  That is a shame when there is supposed to be a law about Age Discrimination.  Some friends of mine, who are also over 50, say they have the same problem.  The thing is that we are at an age that our children are grown and gone and we are at a point in our lives that we can, want to and would love to find a good job.  We would probably be the most dedicated employees that any Company would ever have.  It seems like most employers want to hire the young, pretty girls that may or may not have a College Degree, but from my experience in working at different places, the people with EXPERIENCE ended up being much more valuable to the employer than the young ones.  The last job that I had, I noticed that all of the young employees had cell phones that they stayed on many times during the day when they were supposed to be working and they had absolutely no respect for the boss whatsoever.   You need to have a Powerful Show about this problem in NC and I am sure that this is probably the same problem in all of the USA!!!

Anyway back to my home problem.  A few months ago my husband put a gun to my head.  I was in total shock and was at a point that I just didn't care if he shot me or not.  If I go to the grocery store, he times me, and if it takes longer than he thinks it should, I catch hell when I get home.  You just wouldn't believe all of the things that I have gone through.  I have nowhere to go to live.  All of my family lives way out of State.  They might would take me in if I asked, but I have always taken care of myself and I am just too ashamed to ask for help.  I was offered a loan to go to school, but I know how hard it would be to pay it back whenever I finished school and maybe finally found a good job, so I am scared to borrow the money.  I have excellent credit and don't want to damage it.  If I just had a College Degree and a good job, I think that I should be able to make it on my own.  There should be some kind of Government help or Private Charities that help people like me!!!

RideSallyRide

NC Horse Lady

 

You need to find a way out, a shelter, anywhere's... it's your life we are talking about here.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Angela

 
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May 10, 2007, 8:39 pm PDT

RUN Jen RUN !

 

     JENNIFER, after watching this afternoons show, I have to applaud your decision to extract yourself & your children from this unhappy and potentially DANGEROUS relationship. Although  I'm SURE you realize the gravity of the situation, I hope you will continue to take every precaution to safeguard yourself and your children.

     Like most viewers, I am not a psychological know-it-all (although I did stay @ a Holiday Inn Express last night - LOL), but I find it HARD to allow Jeff the excuse of mental illness as the root of his abhorrent behavior. For instance, my dad would blame alcohol as the reason he beat my mother - for 20 years! She stayed in the marriage out of fear. As a husband I cannot fathom pulling ANY of the crap Jeff has pulled on you - unacceptable! Go and lead a better life, be happy! "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero"

-S&B  

 

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