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Created on : Friday, April 20, 2007, 02:39:18 pm
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“When I think I’ve seen it all, then I get a wake-up call,” Dr. Phil says of his guests who are involved in a very intense relationship. Jeffrey's obsession with his wife, Jennifer, has careened out of control during their 11-year marriage. He says he loves her so much he goes to extremes to watch her every move. He's tracked her with a GPS device, listened to her phone conversations, trapped her in their home and alienated her from her friends and family. But is there something more sinister Jeffrey's done that he's been hiding? Jennifer says she's ready to leave her controlling and jealous husband once and for all. Has she been up to no good, and is Jeffrey justified in his snooping? Jeffrey wants to save his marriage and family, but is Jennifer willing to stand by him? Dr. Phil unravels the jealously, lies and abuse to see if this marriage can be saved, or if it's really Jennifer who needs to be saved from Jeffrey. Talk about the show here.

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May 16, 2007, 9:13 am PDT

Exuse me?

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 Put her down? He's had her on a pedestal. Anything she wanted, she got. Even after the series, she's getting what she wants. I won't argue the fact that Jeff is 2 shy of a dozen, but she played him and all of us. How many thousands of women out there are in an extremely violent relationship? How many could use the help more than poor Jen? If she had grown up and stopped acting like a hormone imbalanced teen, Jeff would have tired with all the spying. If you don't get any email, you'll stop checking it everyday. Soon, you'll forget you have an email address. Save the pity for a woman that really deserves it. Greg

Jennifer did NOT play all of us.  I don't know where you get off on judging her.  If you ask me, you sound a bit like Jeffrey.  It seems as though you are blaming the victim too.  Pity?  I don't pity her.  I fear for her.  I fear that her sick husband will try to take her life.  Your take on this really disgusts me.

 

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May 16, 2007, 4:23 pm PDT

what?

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Again.....I agree with all that you are saying....

Jefferey is sick. If you feel pity for him, then maybe you need to check yourself.
 
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May 16, 2007, 4:24 pm PDT

well.....

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Does anyone out there value the convenent of marriage anymore?  What right does anyone have to tell Jennifer to leave her marriage?  That is a personal decision that has to be made by her and her husband.  Just because many of you have had bad relationships doesn't mean you have to empty your baggage on Jennifer.   Look, I was raised in a dysfunctional home but I do not use my past experiences to tell someone what they should do.  We should be more supportive to this couple and offer healthier alternatives that are best for them and their children.  Even Dr. Phil suggested that Jennifer hold off on considering divorce for the sake of their marriage and their children.  I was a victim of abuse and I moved on.   Maybe it is time for others on this post to do the same.  All I can say is, when I read some of your posts, I realize how deeply sad and negative the world really is.  And in drawing that conclusion I feel even more thankful for my life.
obviously you're not in her shoes.
 
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May 18, 2007, 2:12 pm PDT

B.W.A. OBSESSIVE LOVE

TO ALL OF US WOMEN OUT THERE IN AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP.....

B.W.A BATTERED WOMENS ANONYMOUS  PLEASE, PLEASE LOOK FOR THIS IN YOUR LOCAL YELLOWPAGES IN THE FRONT!   They saved my life 17 years ago. Call your local hospital or law enforcement. Do it now and get out ! Make the call, make a plan to leave, just do it. Save yourself. Save your child(ren). It is a learned behavior, stop the cycle.

 
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May 18, 2007, 5:24 pm PDT

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obviously you're not in her shoes.

I can tell you've never really been in an abusive relationship and you apparently didn't even watch the whole show or listen to the whole story line. 

 

Dr Phil did get Jeffrey help, HE ran away from it.........you see, it's never their fault, it's the rest of the world that's causing them to do the things they are doing. 

 

The best place for him is where he is now, behind bars.  At least now, his wife and children are safe for the moment.   Oh, and my hat is off to that wonderful attorney for covering all the bases so well.  Hear, hear.
 
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May 18, 2007, 9:48 pm PDT

04/26 Obsessive Love

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Does Jeffrey want help or does he think he is justified? If he does not try to change I think Jennifer should leave him.

Abusers always think they are justified. I spent more than ten years with an abusive controlling man. I am not exaggerating when I tell you he never said the words "I'm sorry." All I ever heard is “I didn’t do anything wrong.” They are masters at making you feel responsible for their behavior. I always heard, “if you hadn’t done x, I wouldn’t have had to do y.”  They are so twisted in their minds they consider themselves the victim.

 
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May 18, 2007, 10:22 pm PDT

double excuse me

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I fully agree with you.  I can't believe Dr. Phil hasn't made her own up to the things that she is doing or has done to provoke some of that behavior.  Granted he is completely overboard but she isn't perfect and she needs to stop acting as though she doesn't understand why he is so untrusting of her.  She isn't very trustworty.  If the tables were turned I think it would be a totally different situation. 

I literally cringe when I read something like “provoke some of that behavior”. There is no excuse and no justification for abuse. Make no mistake about it, Jeffrey’s behavior is abuse. I would not matter what she did or didn’t do, his behavior would still be the same. In reality his behavior actually has nothing to do with her. He is a psychopath.

 
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May 19, 2007, 5:10 am PDT

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It is hard to believe that there are children that are this out of control but they do exist.  My partner has a son that is now in prison for killing three people after he stole a car when he ran away from home.  His Dad took him to 7 different professionals for help.  He was in counseling, took medication, was in a Psychiatric center twice, and a Boys home for a while.  My friend begged the school system to direct him to appropriate help.  They said there was nothing they could do.  My partner regrets not letting him go to jail, when he set a car on fire when he was 16.  The boys mother was not envolved in his life and my friend was trying to raise him with the help of his own Mom, work to keep a roof over their heads, and search for help, and attend counseling session.  This boy conned every professional he saw.  I dont really know what is true with this story, but I do know that a parent can reach such a state of desperation and frustration, a situation like this could occur.  I just pray for everyone envolved as I still do for my friend.  There is no easy answer.
 
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May 19, 2007, 9:19 am PDT

created all people

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You indicated that Jeffrey is probably gay.  First of all, God did not create people to be gay.  In the Garden of Eden there was Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.  God was the one who instituted marriage.  He was the creator of it.  Clearly in the book of Romans in the Bible, God has a very serious message to those lusting after the same sex.  Jeffrey has an old sin nature, Jennifer has an old sin nature, and we all have an old sin nature.  What is clearly wrong with Jeffrey and Jennifer is they are acting out of their old sin natures.  Believe it or not, in God's eyes Jeffrey's sins are no worse than Jennifer's.  I believe in order to have healing and a true conversion, Jennifer and Jeffrey need to recognize that they are sinners and accept the gracious love of Jesus Christ that He loved us so much He died for us.  All of us need to come to that realization and experience a heart felt belief in God's loves for us.  Otherwise, we will not find complete fufillment.  

someone asked a gay person -----why are you gay

he answered --------------why are you  straight

perhaps god has that answer

 

do not believe everything you read

even the bible is man made/written

We need to learn to live together

moses was gay u know?

 

 

signed eve (by the way I', am straight but what the heck does that mean

right or wrong?? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:::

just happy within myself  I am guessing your not:(happy that is)

 
 
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May 19, 2007, 12:59 pm PDT

BEYOND THE END....

DR PHIL AND STAFF:  AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MESSAGE BOARDS, MANY PEOPLE ARE UPSET THAT THIS ISSUE HAS SEEMINGLY AND ABRUPTLY ENDED.  I HAVE READ ABOUT YOUR UPCOMING SHOWS AND DO NOT SEE ANYTHING MORE SLATED FOR JEFFREY AND JENNIFER UPDATES.  PLEASE SCHEDULE ANOTHER SHOW TO BRING EVERYONE UP TO DATE ON THIS VERY PLAUSIBLE TERRORISM BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE AND WE HEAR  MORE ABOUT IT IN THE NEWS.  JEFFREY IS PSYCHOTIC!  JENNIFER AND THE CHILDREN NEED TO HAVE PROTECTION AT ALL TIMES, AND JEFFREY'S VISITATION WITH THE CHILDREN NEEDS TO BE UNDER SUPERVISION.  HE IS AS CLOSE AS A PERSON CAN GET TO REACHING THE POINT WHERE HE COULD/WOULD HARM/KILL THE CHILDREN AND HIMSELF.  WE HAVE AN EXACT CASE IN OUR AREA CURRENTLY.  FOUR CHILDREN WERE FOUND DEAD IN THEIR BEDS AND DAD HUNG HIMSELF AFTER KILLING THEM. MOM IS ON THE RUN OR DEAD IN CENTRAL AMERICA.  JEFFREY IS CAPABLE OF THIS TYPE OF ACTION. I HAVE LIVED WITH THIS TYPE OF SITUATION MYSELF AND KNOW WHAT COULD HAPPEN!  PLEASE, PLEASE SCHEDULE ANOTHER SHOW AND LET US KNOW THAT JENNIFER AND THE CHILDREN ARE SAFE AND ARE GETTING ON WITH THEIR LIVES.  JEFFREY NEEDS TO BE PLACED IN A MENTAL FACILITY INDEFINITELY OR IN PRISION FOR HARRASSMENT, STALKING, AND IMPRISIONING HIS WIFE IN THE BASEMENT. OBVIOUSLY, JEFFREY IMPRISIONED JENNIFER, SO WHY SHOULD HE NOT BE IMPRISIONED FOR THE SAME DEAL?   OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD ARE CONDEMNING JENNIFER FOR HER INVOLVEMENT WITH ANOTHER MAN AND FEEL THAT JEFFREY IS JUSTIFIED BECAUSE SHE CHEATED ON HIM.  AS A WOMAN WHO WAS TREATED LIKE THIS FOR YEARS TOO, I KNOW THAT THE FIRST KIND AND COMPASSIONATE MAN WHO COMES ALONG AND CARES ABOUT YOU AND SEES YOU FOR THE WOMAN YOU ARE WILL SEEMINGLY BE AN ANGEL IN DISGUISE.  ACCORDING TO THE SHOW, JENNIFER AND THE CHILDREN HAVE LIVED WITH THIS MAN FOR YEARS IN HORRIBLE AND DEPLORABLE SITUATION, YET SHE STILL BELIEVES IN THE MAN THAT JEFFREY COULD BECOME.  I TOO FELT THAT WAY; HOWEVER, I HAD TO REACH THE POINT WHERE I KNEW THAT THE MAN I WAS MARRIED TO WAS NO LONGER THE MAN I MARRIED!  PLEASE DON'T LET US HANGING!  THANKS!
 
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