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Topic : 04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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Jeffrey and Jennifer's shocking and complicated story continues. During their 11-year marriage, Jeffrey has become so obsessed with Jennifer, he watches her every move. He has installed a GPS system in her car, taps her phone conversations, takes inappropriate pictures of her and watches her while she sleeps. Dr. Phil probes deep into Jeffrey's mind to find out why he acts the way he does. Is there any boundary Jeffrey won't cross when it comes to controlling his wife? Then, how are Jennifer and Jeffrey's three children being affected by the madness in the house? Their eldest child has been an eyewitness to his father's schemes. And, while Dr. Phil speaks one on one with Jennifer, Jeffrey has a total meltdown backstage, becoming physically ill. When Dr. Phil confronts him about his anxieties and offers a solution, will Jeffrey choose to make a change? Don’t miss the second part of this dramatic and emotional story, and find out if this family is on the path to healing or headed to divorce court.  Join the discussion.

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April 27, 2007, 6:32 pm PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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Haven't you ever heard of someone acting out to try and do the "unthinkable"  to  get out of a situation.  I'm sure she hoped that if he found out he let her go!  If that wasn't her rationalle  I'm sure she was just so starved for affection and love, and some feelings of safety I don't blame her!  It's the same concept that woman get in physical abuse, they escalate things whe n they get bad so  the partner will just 'get it over with' then the walking on egg shells stops, and life can get on.  It sounds sick, but it is a reality.  I lived it.  You can't have a relationship or trust when living like that, but as a human you need it, and you seek it, and you seek safety.
 He doesnt have to "let her go" shes got 2 legs....the woman is a cheater- the man is an idiot they are equal in the blame department-
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:35 pm PDT

can't believe it!

I can't believe she is sticking with him  but maybe just as dr phil says, so that there will be healthy ending.  I don't know if i would do it.
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:35 pm PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

I THINK IF THIS WERE A WOMAN THAT HAD BEEN CHEATED ON ..AND SHE PUT THESE DECVICES IN THE CAR , TO SPY ON HER CHEATING HUSBAND , SHE WOULD BE GETTING

A PAT ON THE BACK.. GOOD JOB. ETC. ,,I BELIEVE MANY MEN HAVE PUSHED WOMAN TO THIS EDGE OF COMPLETE AND TOTAL .JEALOUSY ,, INSUCURITY ,AND TOTAL MIS TRUST

WHEN YOU CHEAT ON SOMEONE . YOU CANNOT EXPECT THEM TO REACT IN A WAY THAT

YOU WANT .. OR FEEL THE WAY U WANT THEM TO FEEL . SOMETIMES ,, IN SOME PEOPLE ]

IT DOES SEND THEM OVER THE EDGE .. WHAT DID SHE EXPECT THE HUSBAND TO DO WHEN HE DROVE  HOME TO FIND HIS WIFE WITH ANOTHER MAN ,> ?  I MEAN REALLY?

WHAT WOULD YOU DO ..ASK HIM TO STAY FOR DINNER? WERE THE KIDS THERE WHEN

THIS OTHER MAN WAS THERE:? HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WOMEN SAID THEY WERE TAKING

BIRTH CONTROL .. AND WERE NOT.. JUST TO HAVE A BABY BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT IT WOULD MAKE THE RELATIONSHIP BETTER ,, NOT THAT ITS RIGHT ,.IT ISNT  BUT... A MAN DOESNT HAVE THAT OPTION OF SAYING HE'S TAKING A PILL .. ..EXTEME

YES   IM WONDERING HOW LONG ,.THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON , WAS IT ONLY AFTER THE CHEATING?>  IF MY HUSBAND WENT TO A BAR AND GOT ANOTHER WOMANS NUMBER I

WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AS WELL ,LET ALONE IF I HAD ALREADY FOUND ANOTHER WOMAN AT MY HOUSE ,WHILE I WAS AWAY ON BUSINESS,,

AS WELL. I DONT BELIEVE IT TO BE ALL ONE SIDED , THERE HAS BEEN ALOT THAT HAS MADE THIS HAPPEN , IF HE HAD THE TENDENCIES FOR THIS PRIOR ,WELL THEN  IT IS NOW FULL BLOWN ..NOT AT ALL SAYING SHE SHOULD STAY , BUT FROM WHAT I  HEARD ON THE SHOW , WHY SHOULD HE TRUST HER? NOW SHE HAS BEEN GIVEN ALL THE MEANS TO LEAVE ,,WHICH IS WHAT OBVIOUSLY SHE WANTED ,, JUST NOW SOME ONE WILL PICK UP THE TAB,,LET ME KNOW WHEN THIS IS REVERSED .,WHEN  A  MAN CHEATS AND DRIVES HIS WIFE CRAZY INSANE  ,,THEN SOME ONE WILL PAY FOR THE CHEATING HUSBAND TO MOVE OUT,, THANKS.

 

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:36 pm PDT

Amen!

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Haven't you ever heard of someone acting out to try and do the "unthinkable"  to  get out of a situation.  I'm sure she hoped that if he found out he let her go!  If that wasn't her rationalle  I'm sure she was just so starved for affection and love, and some feelings of safety I don't blame her!  It's the same concept that woman get in physical abuse, they escalate things whe n they get bad so  the partner will just 'get it over with' then the walking on egg shells stops, and life can get on.  It sounds sick, but it is a reality.  I lived it.  You can't have a relationship or trust when living like that, but as a human you need it, and you seek it, and you seek safety.
She isn't  a saint with her actions and DP should have hammered her on her actions...which is very dissapointing......
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:38 pm PDT

Crazy people

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Like I said earlier.....TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE IT RIGHT, IT JUST MAKES IT WORSE......

 

Either way this is a complete mess, what would you do if you found your husband online doing that......

 

 

They are both at fault, but he is crazy......

I think it's safe to say there aren't many guys who are this obsessed, to this degree, that he is one of few that take it to this extreme, we've seen nasty husband's beating and yelling at their wife, but this guy took it to a whole new level, i went through similar things, but my husband is a walk in the part compared to him, and my husband was a Marine to the extreme and had been in the vetenam war for two tours. i didn't think anyone can top him, this guy creeped me out and i was instandtly scared for her by what he was saying and how he said it, and the words he used, liek Till death do us part. he must have said it 3 times and i believe he means it
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:38 pm PDT

With all due respect to Dr. Phil

I am very surprised at the outcome of the second show.  This man needs serious, professional help, but it seemed very wrong to leverage Jennifer's agreement to 'stand down' in terms of proceding with the divorce to get him into the facility.  Dr. Phil, it seems like Jeff did manipulate you in the end.  He had a hissy, crying fit and you caved in to what he wanted all along. 

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:39 pm PDT

Obsessive....Love?

THIS MAN"S MOTIVATION FOR HELP NEEDS TO BE QUESTIONED!!!!!

 

I strongly feel that this man is ONLY willing to get help because he wants to continue to OWN his wife, and have her on his arm as a trophy . He does not get it and I do not believe that he is genuine, but rather very manipulative. Quite frankly, he knows that he cannot do any better than her and he afraid that she will meet someone who will sweep her off her feet (which is what she deserves!!!)  and he will be a lonely stalker. 

 

In some ways I have sympathy for him as it is evident that he is unstable and mentally and emotionally unwell, and I would be curious to know what some of the reasons are for his behaviour...(ie previous relationship and/or family and childhood experiences...not that it necessarily excuses him)). He does need some serious psychiatric help....he needs robust and intensive psychotherapy and possibly treatment, not some wishy washy form of counselling. If his wfe is willing to suppport him through this, as it will take time, then she is a star.

 

She is putting her chidlren first in all of this, but there may come a time when leaving him is in fact what is in her chidlren's best interests! I think that this woman is compassionate, loving and devoted...she displayed great maturity and care when she gently touched his arm towards the end of the show.

 

If the husband is not genuine and is in all of this for all the wrong reasons...(ie SELFISH REASONS, which is what I believe), I am confident that the professionals involved will see through him.

 

 

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:42 pm PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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Wow!!!  Although Jeffrey is exhibiting some incredible "creepy" behavior. (he obviously needs intervention)...why has Jennifer not been confronted???  What is a married woman doing posting swimsuit photos of herself on the web???  And why is a married woman going out to a bar with friends til late morning with mixed company????  And what about her quality of friendships....calling each other "sexy bitch" is a term of endearment between friends???  Wow...all I can say is "Wow"....both sides need help.
Since when is there anything wrong with posting swimsuit photos on the web? Ok, I get it that she is married, but come on, be real. She has clothing on, albeit a swimsuit. Since when is it a crime to go out with friends, albeit mixed company? Unless some serious table nookie was going on, then don't sweat it. Just because you question 'sexy bitch' as being a term of endearment between friends, doesn't mean that she can't. Or that she lacks quality friends. Her moral compass is not yours nor mine. Jeff has serious issues. Being the adult version of the school yard bully doesn't cut it in the real world, no matter what.
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:43 pm PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

Quote From: luvinmayberry

Haven't you ever heard of someone acting out to try and do the "unthinkable"  to  get out of a situation.  I'm sure she hoped that if he found out he let her go!  If that wasn't her rationalle  I'm sure she was just so starved for affection and love, and some feelings of safety I don't blame her!  It's the same concept that woman get in physical abuse, they escalate things whe n they get bad so  the partner will just 'get it over with' then the walking on egg shells stops, and life can get on.  It sounds sick, but it is a reality.  I lived it.  You can't have a relationship or trust when living like that, but as a human you need it, and you seek it, and you seek safety.
No I never had. I think she likes to play the victim. When you truly want out of a relationship especially women! We get out. My mother was physically abused by my father and I mean trips to the hospital she married my dad at the age of 15 my dad was 28 at the age of 19 my mother had me two years later she had my brother. The abuse continued and at the age of 21 with two kids my mother having no where to go left my dad. So please do not insult me by saying she cheated to get out of the situation. You can tell the woman is not the victim when you are a victim you are afraid of the abuser you don't call him fat and ugly let alone cheat on him. Im not saying is actions are correct by any means no person should do that to another but  you should not cheat either. Let's be honest here Im sure she stayed there for the comfort of "living" nice house nice car and what he can give her materialistic wise. If she was so diistraut she just walks away plain and simple Im sure she has family and let's not forget how today in 2007 domestic violence and harrassment is a big thing now. In my mother's time your husband could do what ever he wanted to you even if he raped you it was ok. Please do not tell me this woman is a victim, my mother  and all other women who are p\hysically and mentally abused by men are the real victims.  A victim does not go out to bars until 3am in the morning no abuser would allow it. She is there because she wants the best of two worlds.  I angers me how women can be so loow at times. Come on she's married 31 three kids and posting pictures on myspace Puhhhhlease!!!!  What he needs is to leave her for sure get help. Im not saying is a great guy he does horrible things but she is no angel adn IIm sure she instigates his behavior.
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:47 pm PDT

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I maybe mistaken, but I never once heard Jeffery say that he loved Jennifer.  He just kept saying, I want to be married.
I hope Jeffery gets the much needed help he needs. Personally, I would not  be willing to give him another chance.  I would advise Jennifer to put some time &  distance between herself & Jeffery then see where it takes her.

I wish them both well. They are going to need it.
 
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