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Topic : 04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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Created on : Friday, April 20, 2007, 02:40:41 pm
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Jeffrey and Jennifer's shocking and complicated story continues. During their 11-year marriage, Jeffrey has become so obsessed with Jennifer, he watches her every move. He has installed a GPS system in her car, taps her phone conversations, takes inappropriate pictures of her and watches her while she sleeps. Dr. Phil probes deep into Jeffrey's mind to find out why he acts the way he does. Is there any boundary Jeffrey won't cross when it comes to controlling his wife? Then, how are Jennifer and Jeffrey's three children being affected by the madness in the house? Their eldest child has been an eyewitness to his father's schemes. And, while Dr. Phil speaks one on one with Jennifer, Jeffrey has a total meltdown backstage, becoming physically ill. When Dr. Phil confronts him about his anxieties and offers a solution, will Jeffrey choose to make a change? Don’t miss the second part of this dramatic and emotional story, and find out if this family is on the path to healing or headed to divorce court.  Join the discussion.

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April 27, 2007, 6:04 am PDT

Get a clue...

OBVIOUSLY Jennifer has some pretty serious issues also. No one gets that far off track without a little help. now she certainly is being held hostage at this point, but she should have had the guts to leave a long time ago. Maybe she thought she'd have no money if she left. There are places for women like her to go.....The bottom line is Jeffery is a total WHACK JOB, but if she has stayed all this time she has made that choice. They are both equally dysfunctional...true his is creepy and weird , but she needs to grow a spine and get rid of the little bald weenie. Isn't it obvious that he has got NO self esteem!!!

 

By the way I have been in a controlling marriage for 5 years...I am currenetly planning my departure with NO help from friends, family or anyone. I have no job or car but I know that I can do it. I have had enough and I WILL NOT TAKE IT. Neither should Jennifer.....QUIT BIENG A DOOR MAT WOMAN!!!

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:05 am PDT

My missing message

I'm not sure what happened to MY post, but I wanted to say that I do not completey blame Jeff.  I am not saying that what he is doing is right but Jennifer is really enjoying playing vicitm here.  She has cheated on Jeff twice and has lied about where she is going and who she is going with.  This is not acceptable in any marriage.  A married woman should never go to a bar with another man!  Does no one else find this strange?  But yet she said through tears "I didn't tell you because I knew you would threaten him." and everyone feels sorry for her.  Any man would not approve of his wife doing this! And then posing in a bathing suit for other men?  There is something wrong there too!  Not to mention the 2 affairs.  Come on guys, think about this!  I think we can cut Jeff some slack as he has been repeatedly betrayed and deprived sexual release for an exteneded period of time.  Jennifer is using her own form of torture.  Everyone is throwing Jennifer a little pity party but I think she should be held accountable for her actions just as Jeff is being held accountable.  How many times have you heard stories of women thinking their husbands are cheating so they hire a private investigator to find out?  This is not uncommon.  Jeff has gone to some extremes but Jennifer is not a trustworthy wife and should be called out on her own contribution in damaging this marriage.  Both are wrong and BOTH need to make some changes to save this marriage.
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:05 am PDT

I don't think he can change

I realize more and more everyday how truly blessed I have been even though my 2nd husband  died last October.  He was absolutely WONDERFUL.  I met him while separated from my verbally and physically abusive ex-husband and he was separated from his wife and both of us were in the process of a divorce.  He always told me that "people don't change".  I have seen this proven time and time again within my own family and with friends, co-workers, etc.   

 

I think someone can change behaviors if they want to bad enough  But they have to take ownership of the problem and take advice from a professional (like Dr. Phil) even if they don't particularly like what he has to say.

 

My personal opinion from what I saw on the show, this man does not want to change - not really.  He is putting on a good act, but he still hasn't taken ownership for his own actions and still blames her. 

 

I don't care WHAT she did, she does not deserve this treatment.  For many years I thought that I deserved being abused by my ex-husband, but one day I realized that I was worth so much more than to put up with his crap!!

 

It is truly a shame that not everyone can experience the kind of relationship that I had with my second husband - I cannot put into words the love that we shared.  It is not always easy, but Oh is it a wonderful life when it happens!!

 

I pray for these two and wish them the best of luck with whatever the outcome of this will be.

 

 

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:06 am PDT

They BOTH have issues, not just Jeffrey

After watching the show yesterday my opinion is that they need to get a divorce. She cheated on him 2 yrs into their marriage (they got married because she was PG) and she has since cheated on him again (if not many more). No married woman has any business going to a bar with her girlfriends and staying out until 3:30am. And if I were her husband I would be offended by her pictures on her myspace page and her flirting as well. She obviously wants to be single and party and not be in a comitted relationship right now. How is he supposed to trust her? He needs therapy for his lack of self esteem because if he had any he would have left her a long time ago! Jeffrey, you can do better!! I don't agree with the things he's done, they are over the top BUT she is NOT blameless in this and she is not a victim. She claims to be so scared of leaving him but not once have they mentioned any physcial abuse. I do not feel sorry for her. She is not the only victim in this relationship. It would be healthy for BOTH of them to end this relationship.
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:07 am PDT

to the husband

I am a woman. However, I understood you. I did something similar to what you are doing now. I got it over. I recovered. God bless you to get it over as well. I am soo sorry to see how you are suffering. You will get it over. Please, believe me that it is possible. It will be a time when you will feel good.

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:07 am PDT

How smart are you

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How can anyone in their right mind think that this kind of behavior is okay. I have a friend who in many ways has the same problems that this women has. The only difference is he physically abuses her. A leapard never changes their spots; I don't care how much they try. She needs to get the heck out of there!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why? So she can go cheat on someone else and make them go crazy tooooooooo!!!!!!!!!  When you cheat you cause the untrusting craziness!!!!!
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:09 am PDT

I have my doubts.

Having read what is going to happen on today's show I guess I should try to feel optimistic for them. At least Jeffrey seems to be willing to go and get help. I hope Jennifer feels a little safer now. I would think Jeffrey will need ongoing therapy for the rest of his life. I think it's going to take a lot of work. DrPhil is going to do a couple of follow -ups in May. I don't think 2 weeks is going to cure him. But maybe it will get him on the right path. Right now I think he's one sick man.
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:10 am PDT

they are both deranged

not excusing his behavior...he is def. a monster and needs to be locked up...

 

BUT...she needs to shape up also. a married woman with three children shouldn't be out at bars with friends at all hours of the night...she shouldn't be picking "guy friends" up and she shouldn't be on MySpace. grow up. she seems like she enjoys all of this. with her fake crying on the show. give me a freakin' break.

 

i have had first hand experience in my own family as to this type of behavior. stop making excuses and get the heck out. oh yeah...stay in this for your children. ok. growing up like that will be great for them...wake up lady.

 

 

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:11 am PDT

Lots of Guys Like Him Out There

I was married to an abuser.  He learned from his daddy.  His mother died when he was 14, leaving 8 kids.  Two were over 16 and left home.  The 10-year-old asked to be adopted out.  I tried divorce but with 3 hostages (children) I would still have had to deal with him.  We did the counseling and once he figured out that I would not be counselled to accomodate him, he gave it up.  What saved me was the women's movement.  She needs to cut her losses and build a life for herself.  He doesn't love her, he owns her and will drain the life out of her.  Once I presented a hardened target to my abuser, he didn't live very long.  He died of a heart attack 3 days shy of his 61st birthday.  I was 19 and pregnant when I married him and he was 6 years older.
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:13 am PDT

Afraid for her LIFE

My mother and I were watching the show in utter shock.  Point blank...this guy is crazy and I personally think he's a ticking time bomb.  If she doesn't get away from him I really think he will kill her.  His actions are obsessive and it seems he will stop at nothing to have/keep her.  I don't want to hear about a homicide of a "former Dr. Phil guest" in a few months.  I think Dr. Phil and his staff should get her and their kids in some kind of police protection program.  Many people may be like "Oh I don't think he'll go that far" but people are just a decision away from making an irrational decision.  This guy is CRAZY and OBSESSIVE and I really hope she gets away from him and FAST.  I really think he will try to kill her.  We need to recognize certain behaviors early on and try to intervene before anything tragic happens.  Far too many times we dismiss these signs and it ends up in tragedy.
 
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