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Topic : 04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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Jeffrey and Jennifer's shocking and complicated story continues. During their 11-year marriage, Jeffrey has become so obsessed with Jennifer, he watches her every move. He has installed a GPS system in her car, taps her phone conversations, takes inappropriate pictures of her and watches her while she sleeps. Dr. Phil probes deep into Jeffrey's mind to find out why he acts the way he does. Is there any boundary Jeffrey won't cross when it comes to controlling his wife? Then, how are Jennifer and Jeffrey's three children being affected by the madness in the house? Their eldest child has been an eyewitness to his father's schemes. And, while Dr. Phil speaks one on one with Jennifer, Jeffrey has a total meltdown backstage, becoming physically ill. When Dr. Phil confronts him about his anxieties and offers a solution, will Jeffrey choose to make a change? Don’t miss the second part of this dramatic and emotional story, and find out if this family is on the path to healing or headed to divorce court.  Join the discussion.

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April 28, 2007, 5:28 am PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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I really don't think anyone here is "painting this woman to be an innocent angel".

I said it before and I'll say it again (sorry for being repetitive):

Right - she apparently cheated on him. Twice. So instead of continuing to mentally and emotionally beat her over the head, he could have divorced her. This guy didn't do that though - he has spiraled completely out of control.  There in lies the issue at hand. One behavior does not justify the other. HE asked for help, that is why (presumably) the focus was on HIM and HIS destructive behavior.

This man is MY husband. I understand where this woman is in her head. I too had an affair after three years of marriage. At that point my husband had moved me 100 miles away from all family and friends. Had already sold my car, so I was stuck in a rural area with four children and no transportation. He wouldn't let me work . He chased away every damn friend i have ever had.He was crazy and when I reached out for help via family they would all tell me he is just immature. He will grow up. I believed my family and thought I was nuts. I wound up having an emotional affair with a man I went to high school with. It was like a starving dog being handed a can of dog food. He was a man that was kind to me...

 

My husband found out and that is when the lock down begun. It has gone on for six years now. He doesn't track my every movement, but he does break into my email accounts. He has broken into my cell phone bill. He has ruined me financially. He has sex with me while I'm asleep. I wake up and he is on top of me. If I say no, he just keeps going. Then he tells me on a daily basis how I make him feel unwanted. He tells my children all the time that "Mommy is crazy". He thinks I want to screw all of my friends husbands as well as my daughter's second grade male teacher. I cringe whenever a man talks to me. I just want them to stop.  I now am working as a waitress and at night instead of being home with the kids he comes up and sits at my work , watching me..

 

Whenever I have tried to leave he gets worse and I cave in. I did have him out of the house about four years ago. However, he would tell the kids when he dropped them off. "I want to come home, but Mommy won't let me" or " I'm so sad and I've been out drinking and now I'm driving. If I die it's all her fault". The kids ADORE him...  I have no idea why as all he does is let them down and play with them mentally.

 

 I feel it's easier to live in this hell than to deal with the hell I have to deal with once I leave. I know it will get worse and I'm so afraid of that with no $$$, no support from family. He saw the preview of the Dr. Phil show last week and I have been living in hell for the past week all because of it.

 
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April 28, 2007, 5:39 am PDT

I understand Jennifers situation

I am in a situation like Jennifers. When my other half after watching the two show told me that Dr. Phil has to stick up for the female, after all more women watch this show.
 
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April 28, 2007, 5:40 am PDT

Her role in this

Don't misunderstand me, please, there is absolutely no justifying this man's behavior.  Having been cheated on in a former marriage, I can understand his feelings of jealousy, but he is way out of line treating her like that.  He just needs to leave her.  Many of us watching this show wonder why the wife's behavior seems to be so acceptable to everyone.  It's my understanding she was cheating on him, she has a myspace site like a teenager adverstising herself, goes to bars, etc....  This doesn't seem like normal behavior for a loving wife and mother.  Those of us who have or had good marriages did not behave like this woman.  She's too old to be acting like a teenager.  The husband should be locked up and the wife needs to grow up and start acting her age and be a mother.
 
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April 28, 2007, 5:41 am PDT

Ever heard of wedding vows?

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He doesn't love her.  He wants to control her.  He ran out of "chances" ages ago.  This was her opporutnity to seek help and get away from  him.  There is no hope for this marriage.  A partner and their trust and love must be earned.  He lost that years ago.

I feel sad that you have such a closed mind. I wonder are you married?

 

Yes, my first thought was don't leave him...KILL HIM!!!!

 

Our country is full of people who believe in divorce as a cure. It should be a last resort!

 

In sickness and in health.....he is sick!

For better or worse.....this is worse!

In good times and bad times...this is bad!

 

I have been married 4 times. Had a smart one, a dumb one, a mean one and a nice one. But, I never filed for divorce....they did.

 

How brave and desperate Jennifer and Jeffrey are to reach out for help.

 
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April 28, 2007, 6:12 am PDT

I really like your observations.

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The more I think about this show, something seemed really off about it.  The possibilities I came up with are either (1.) They were both actors or (2.) These two were both involved in a twisted little game.

My reasoning is as follows.  I watched the man's mouth twitch in lies so many times it was like watching a dramatic Seinfeld. Then I saw her body language and clothing (a woman who has been sexually exploited by her husband would try to cover up as much as possible and not draw attention to herself in her manner of dress wearing 4 inch high heels).

He closed his eyes the whole time talking to Dr Phil so it was easier to act. Jeffrey's ending comment to Jenn something like " I will have to stay here in California....blah blah blah" was out of a one-star bad Lifetime movie.

If my husband locked me in a basement or did any of the twisted things this guy did- I would not sleep with him- much less wear anything attractive around him.

When Dr Phil offered the very plush treatment center, she did not look relieved. It looked to me that her reaction was "Oh crap, now what have we gotten ourselves into.?"

I think these two have a perverse little game going where they both like other people to watch.

These are just a few of the examples I noticed. I could go on and on.

Great post, but I doubt they are actors.

 

I think he wrote the show thinking Dr. Phil would side with him.

 

But instead he came off very creepy....admitted that whenever she tried to leave him, he got her pregnant because "it always worked before."

 

I laughed at the end when he said sadly to her "I'm going to have to stay in CA." If it was me, I would have been high-5ing Dr. Phil and thanking the entire audience like Miss America.

 

I see no love or sympathy in her expressions for Jeff, she hasn't loved him in years...you can tell.

 

 

 
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April 28, 2007, 6:21 am PDT

obbessive love

Quote From: frenchtoast61

 

You cant blame anyone for your behavior not her for cheating and not him for stalking her

 

if they cant trust each other they better be apart.

 

 

For God Sake you are adults WE ARE the 1 who decides to say Yes or No... Please stop

 

blaming everyone and its not the end of the World to ask for help when you realize u need it

 

in the contrary that makes you stronger

 

"Ego dont want to lose thats why we blame others others others"

 

Turn to your Heart instead and Life will be better on this Earth


We are here to get better if everybody knowledge this "Ego or bad part of us will leave

 

slowly"  and its the part who been hurt and react all the times...

 

Try to get help if needed and try to love yourself a bit more everyday please

 

 

Good Luck and Have a wonderful day

;)

 

when Dr Phil told Jennifer he would get her an attorney a place to live help, I would have taken it NOW I wouldn't ever agreed to stay and wait one more second. Maybe she'll have some peace of mind while hes gone but I wouldn't  put anything past Jeffrey
 
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April 28, 2007, 6:32 am PDT

Does she have some ownership here for her actions???

I don't think Jeffrey will change, he's too far gone and his obsession will continue after a few months of being back in the same house.  I say this because, unfortunately, Dr. Phil gave Jenn the assurance that she's done nothing wrong here....but yet she has.  She's had mulitple affairs during the marriage, sends sexy pictures of herself to men on my space (I didn't hear her deny that, did you?), she picked up a man and took him to a bar with her - she admitted that.  Did this assist and add to his craziness...I vote YES!   

 

GET OUT Jenn, move on, grow up, and don't cheat on your future partner.  She does need to own up to that part of the destruction she's assisted in creating in her marriage.  I think Jenn is a good person, her reaching for Jeffrey's arm and asking if he was okay before a commercial break shows her compassion toward her prison warden.  She needs alot of therapy too.  My point here, don't let Jenn snow us all.  She's made some questionable desicions to assist in Jeffrey's treatment of her.  She's the one who had the affairs, posted sexy pictures and picks up male friends to go out with.....   I've heard Dr. Phil rake folks over the coals for being unfaithful and needing to own up to their part in the destruction.  I know he didn't on this show because that was not the topic, but I hope he adds some blame to her before we hear the end of this.

 
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April 28, 2007, 6:38 am PDT

Obsessive

I watched the show and was shocked to hear all the things this man has done to his wife. I have been there, done that, and I believe that the best thing she can do is get out now... this man has 11 years of control & obsession to overcome and I just don't think it will happen. I really believe it will get worse before it gets better and she will be the one in harms way when he eventually snaps... I looked in his eyes and I saw no remorse... he was saying what he knew his wife and you wanted to hear so she won't leave him. Like I said before been there, done that and I was lucky to get out alive w/ my daughter...
 
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April 28, 2007, 6:40 am PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

Quote From: colorado4619

His wife should be really worried.  This guy even if he gets therpy has a high possibility of harming her or the children.  The type of guy who "If he can't have her no one can".  I hope a body guard is part of the help her and her children  receive. 
i thought the very same thing about Jeffery as being the kind that would go over the falls not caring what the consequences would be if he knew 100% he was lousing her, it seemed to me as long as he could be in control of some one he would be OK with him self, a sneaky man like that could easily set a car up for a very deadly crash making it appear totally as a accident to be sure he was in the clear of any wrong doing, and simply move on to continue to control the children, and not care how dangerous the waters he has them in were, as for a body guard, well i think Dr Phil has every thing under control, im sure he has given her everything she and the children need to be safe, this isnt one the doc isnt keeping an eye on, hes watching very closely i bet, even when the doc has you in the front seat hes 100% in control, he can take you all the way for a smothe ride or drop you where he chouses along the way.
 
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April 28, 2007, 6:59 am PDT

Eyes wide open?

  I don't trust any one who can't talk to me with their eyes open.
 
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