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Topic : 04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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Jeffrey and Jennifer's shocking and complicated story continues. During their 11-year marriage, Jeffrey has become so obsessed with Jennifer, he watches her every move. He has installed a GPS system in her car, taps her phone conversations, takes inappropriate pictures of her and watches her while she sleeps. Dr. Phil probes deep into Jeffrey's mind to find out why he acts the way he does. Is there any boundary Jeffrey won't cross when it comes to controlling his wife? Then, how are Jennifer and Jeffrey's three children being affected by the madness in the house? Their eldest child has been an eyewitness to his father's schemes. And, while Dr. Phil speaks one on one with Jennifer, Jeffrey has a total meltdown backstage, becoming physically ill. When Dr. Phil confronts him about his anxieties and offers a solution, will Jeffrey choose to make a change? Don’t miss the second part of this dramatic and emotional story, and find out if this family is on the path to healing or headed to divorce court.  Join the discussion.

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April 27, 2007, 6:32 am PDT

Why Go Back?

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Id like to know where the Hell you get the courage to leave? I have left 7 times and have always came back. He comes to me crying saying he'll change and he does for a awhile. He used to hit me but the last time I left and came back he stopped doing thatnoe though its I have no money no job I cant work when I do he thinks part of it is his, I have no firends and the 1 that I do He dosent know about. He has started going through phone bills and called everybody on there so I stopped getting the cell phone bill in the mail. He goes online to see where I have been calls 20 times in a day im wondering if he will get like This man is on tv today. Lord help us all. Since when do marriage vows include  I have the right to Abuse you emotionally,phiscally and emionally??? I didnt remember hearing that.
Last summer I drove from Indiana to Colorado on vacation.  18 straight hours...you know what I learned?  That this country and planet for that matter is extremely small.  I was married over  decade, had a very simple divorce six years ago....you know what I learned?  That life is too short to EVER waste it on needless drama.  Leave and never look back...don't worry about money, don't worry about anything...there are resources out there to help, just do it.....or else you'll be looking back at your life and thinking....WHAT THE HECK? 
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:32 am PDT

I can relate too!

When I was watching the show yesterday it took me back to my marriage that was very similar to Jennifer's.  My ex in the beginning was very loving, attentive and I enjoyed his jealousy, it made me feel special at the time.  After we got married he became this jealous, possessive, controlling person.  If i went to the grocery store he timed me and if I wasn't home in what he thought was reasonable then I must be cheating on him.  I was having a telephone conversation with my mom and he had convinced the telephone company that there was an emergency and the operator cut into the line and said I needed to hang up right away because of this emergency.  Of course he called right away and the first thing he said was "What guy were you talking to"?  He was both verbally and physically abusive and had my self esteem so low that I didn't believe I deserved better than him.  I lived in a different state and the final straw was when I flew home for a visit with my family.  I had told him we were planning to out to a particular bar that night.   I made the mistake of telling him the name of the bar.  My parents and I were at this bar for about an hour when 2 police officers showed up.  In my heart I knew they were there for me.  Sure enough he had called the Police Department and had them come and find me to tell me there was an emergency at home.  You can only imagine the embarrassment and humilation that caused.  Turned out the big emergency was he wanted to know what time my flight got in the next day.   Even though he accused me of cheating on him daily, I'm proud to say that I never did.  Thankfully I was smart enough to not have any children with him.

 

To this day I don't know were I got the strength to leave him, but I did.  I can say that there is no guy that is worth living like that.  I'm sure Jennifer is scared and she should be, however life it to short to be wasting it away with someone like Jeffrey. 

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:32 am PDT

Please don't judge her.

Please do not judge Jennifer.  I am in a way in the same situation, maybe not to the extreme but it has only been 5 yrs, not yet 11.  I am a mother of 4 and married to a very mentally abusing and controlling husband.  I have tried to leave 2 and like Jennifer her cuts off everything and makes it impossible to leave.  When you have children and you can't even afford to buy food what do you do.  I even tried getting a lawyer who because I could not pay would not help.  My husband has cheated on me 5 times once even giving me an STD.  I will say this last time he left and was living with another women I did have a short affair.  It is so hard when the one person who is supposed to love you always belittles you, and it is easy to get caught up when someone actually talks nice to you!  Lately he let my car get repo'd while he drives a $46,000 truck so now I am trapped at home.  Like Jennifer I don't have any friends because they are scared of my husband.  They tell us we are crazy and sometimes I feel like it,  because the things they do to us makes us feel crazy.  If Jennifer is having an affair or talking on email, do not judge her you have not been in her shoes.  Its amazing what you will do right or wrong to still feel human and alive and to have someone to say nice things. 

 

I am looking forwad to the advice Dr. Phil gives Jennifer maybe it can help me and many other!!

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:35 am PDT

What cheating can cause?

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I watched todays show and i think he is over the edge and she needs to get out. it does bother me that she took or was not given any responsibility for her part in this though. it makes me wonder if it would have come to this if she had not cheated in the first place.  before someone cheats they should think of what could happen. i think people take marriage to light.

 

I see no life in his eyes and i fear for her and i fill that if this marriage goes on she will be hurt by him. i do not think he is really a bad man but he is wanting to hold onto someone that he should have let go  a long time ago. i think he needs lots of help. this reminds me of when you hear someone went off the deep end and kills the entire family.

 

for both of them to carry on like this with the children in the middle makes me think they both have a problem. If someone did me this away (lock me up) once i got out i would take my children and run as fast as i could.

 

I know this guy has some bad mental problems and I hope he realizes he needs help and takes the help Dr Phil is offering and i hope his wife realizes what cheating can cause. 

Men like Jeffrey don't have to have a reason to act the way they do.  I never even came close to cheating on my ex-husband in 20 years and he acted just like Jeffrey - the older he got, the worst it got....I finally realized that is wasn't about me at all, or my actions.  It was about him and his insecurities.  So yes, it probably would have "come to this if she had not cheated in the first place"  Her cheating didn't cause this....he did.   By the way, my ex-husband cheated on me plenty of times in the 20 years...I never acted like Jeffrey...not even close.  Blaming her is giving him the excuse he wants to act however he wants.

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:35 am PDT

Where are HER parents?

Where are her parents?  Most parents would take in a daughter/grandkids temporarily to get them out of an abusive home.  They were not mentioned in today's show, I would be interested in knowing if her relationship with them is strained.  If the parents are still in her life why haven't they tried to get her out, surely they know what's going on (or they do now).  Seems to me if you're desperate enough to get out that would be a safe direction, especially if you have no $$$$. 

In addition, this guy is CRAZY!!!  His thought process is just.....gone.  They only healthy direction this can take is a divorce, cuz one day he's going to snap and she's going to die or she's going to snap and he's going to die.  They are both at fault for how far south this marriage has gone. 

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:36 am PDT

Pleeeease

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OBVIOUSLY Jennifer has some pretty serious issues also. No one gets that far off track without a little help. now she certainly is being held hostage at this point, but she should have had the guts to leave a long time ago. Maybe she thought she'd have no money if she left. There are places for women like her to go.....The bottom line is Jeffery is a total WHACK JOB, but if she has stayed all this time she has made that choice. They are both equally dysfunctional...true his is creepy and weird , but she needs to grow a spine and get rid of the little bald weenie. Isn't it obvious that he has got NO self esteem!!!

 

By the way I have been in a controlling marriage for 5 years...I am currenetly planning my departure with NO help from friends, family or anyone. I have no job or car but I know that I can do it. I have had enough and I WILL NOT TAKE IT. Neither should Jennifer.....QUIT BIENG A DOOR MAT WOMAN!!!

 How many hostages do you know have the freedom to go out with other guys???? Wake up people!!!!!
As far as not having any money.....CAN YOU SAY "ALIMONY"...this is something the law makes a husband give an ex wife after they divorce. It' s obvious he can pay it. So if she is not gone it's because she likes having Jeff adore her not because she is "TRAPPED", and she likes having the freedom to come and go as she pleases. Which is apparently does.
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:38 am PDT

Tell her to get out know!!!!

Dr. Phil,

Tell her to get out know.  As the youngest of 5 children I saw my mother being emotionally and mentally abused by my father.  Everyone outside of the family thought my father was wonderful, but as soon as he walked through the door he changed and this was an everyday thing.  It is way worse than physical abuse in my mind.  After more than 50 years of marriage she finally got out and she has been so happy.  My mother did not think she had a choice with 5 children, so finally after all the children are married, out of the house and when things should be great and comfortable she finally realized "life is short",  and realized (thanks to Dr. Phil) she did not have to put up with that  even after 75 years of age. 

She needs to know it effects her mental and physical health.  There is so much I could share with her about what the outcome could be.  And to answer her question, yes it so effects the children in ways she could never know right now.  My situation was some different than hers but it was still the same type of abuse.

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:38 am PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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 why has she stayed so long.... 3 children later who has been hurt the most.  I feel both Jennifer and Jeff are disfuncitional.  Jennifer seems to like some of the attention this behavior has brought.  I feel there is alot more to her than is being told (she seems so fake).  Why have 2 affairs when you have such an obsessed husband , knowing what will happenm you'll get caught for sure.  My thoughts are there is NEVER a reason to have an affair, husband or wife.

 Think they both need alot of help.  Jeff needs some serious help and Jennifer needs to get out

I agree with this message. There is no doubt that this guy is crazy, but she is not innocent either. It seemed like she married at early age, now she want to enjoy her life. She is doing stuff she couldn't do before marriage. Why did she cheat, and twice? And if she didn't like this guy at all, why didn't she leave him? I am curious to know, when did he start all these spying, for how many years? I am not that concerned about her, she will find plenty of guys and she will move on, but I am worried about her crazy husband, he is not mentally stable, he needs help. I don't know to what extent someone can do something, but doubts can make people paranoid. I just don't understand why he still loves her even afer knowing she is cheating on him, thats difference between a normal person and a mentally unstable person. I hope Dr. Phil will not leave him out there, just after the show. Nothing can be fixed in a show. I do hope this show doesn't just make us wonder, or entertain, it also help the couple.
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:47 am PDT

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I am truly worried for Jennifer. 

 I was in a controlling, abuse marriage with my first husband for 6 yrs and he wasn't even one tenth as bad as this Jeffrey guy. (and that is saying something!)

 I looked into that guy's eyes and thought "liar" when his said he wasn't drugging her, taking her clothes off & showing her naked pictures to other people.  HE IS ONE SICK PUPPY!

She needs to get far away from him.  I think I know how she feels. It's like a weight on your chest. Like your are holding your breath. Suffocating around a person like that.  They still the oxygen that you breathe. 

She needs protection from this guy I think he could snap. Jennifer don't believe the horrible things he says to you. He is just trying to destroy your self esteem. 

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:48 am PDT

She has learned to avoid conflict at all costs

This poor woman is defeated. There is no doubt that she , like water does, has chosen the path of least resistance. She is trying to fit into his mold and ignore it to keep a conflict from occuring. This has nothing to do with her and she is alone. Her family has no financial means to help her and her 3 children or she would have been gone. She needs support, she needs to seperate today, and rebuild who SHE is, who she was, and be who SHE wants to be, not what she has been trained to do by her unconscience submission.

 

Dr. Phil has changed her life today and the lives of those children that day he taped the first segment of that show, and has taught other women to seek out the means to get their lives back.

 

Dr. Phill..... Fantastic!!!!!!!!

 
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