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Topic : 04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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Jeffrey and Jennifer's shocking and complicated story continues. During their 11-year marriage, Jeffrey has become so obsessed with Jennifer, he watches her every move. He has installed a GPS system in her car, taps her phone conversations, takes inappropriate pictures of her and watches her while she sleeps. Dr. Phil probes deep into Jeffrey's mind to find out why he acts the way he does. Is there any boundary Jeffrey won't cross when it comes to controlling his wife? Then, how are Jennifer and Jeffrey's three children being affected by the madness in the house? Their eldest child has been an eyewitness to his father's schemes. And, while Dr. Phil speaks one on one with Jennifer, Jeffrey has a total meltdown backstage, becoming physically ill. When Dr. Phil confronts him about his anxieties and offers a solution, will Jeffrey choose to make a change? Don’t miss the second part of this dramatic and emotional story, and find out if this family is on the path to healing or headed to divorce court.  Join the discussion.

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April 27, 2007, 6:50 am PDT

Been There

 I was married to the same type of man. I understand completely how Jennifer feels. I was a prisoner in my own home. My phone was tapped,I was followed,I was controlled,and manipulated for 7 years. I just wanted him to phsically hit me so that I could show someone that he was hurting me. I was able to get out,get help for myself and my child. Four years later I 'm happily married to the most wonderful man I have ever known. I have freedom. I have my own interests,and friends. At the end of every day I can't wait to come home to him!

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:50 am PDT

More thoughts on latent homosexuality....

Side bar first...parents with myspace pages?  Grow up....

 

There is a lot of talk about the Mrs. having affairs...trust me, she would not have done this without prior problem with the psycho Mr.

 

Latent homosexual men will do anything in their power to over compensate...their affected (artificially assumed to impress others) behaviors appear to be 'what normal guys do' on steriods.  Note Dr. Phil's "creep factor?"  If Jeffrey's orientation was strickly abjured at an early age, his entire life has been one big act...how to act like a man and a husband.  Since they refuse to act on their orientation...they develop strange sexual perversions...and then try to incorporate these perversions into a normal relationship.  (Taking photos of her and sharing them, offering to watch while she has sex with another man.)  Their partners become genderless sexual objects...not women...not wives.  This is all about sex, control, and completely losing this atomic family facade he feels he was lucky enough to pull off in the first place and secretly knows he will never beable to pull off again.

 

Also note...Mr. Psycho keeps saying that he wants to "be married" first...not that he loves her. 

 

 

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:50 am PDT

COMMENT ON OBSESSIVE LOVE

 

 

I am truly worried for Jennifer. 

 I was in a controlling, abuse marriage with my first husband for 6 yrs and he wasn't even one tenth as bad as this Jeffrey guy. (and that is saying something!)

 I looked into that guy's eyes and thought "liar" when his said he wasn't drugging her, taking her clothes off & showing her naked pictures to other people.  HE IS ONE SICK PUPPY!

She needs to get far away from him.  I think I know how she feels. It's like a weight on your chest. Like your are holding your breath. Suffocating around a person like that.  They still the oxygen that you breathe. 

She needs protection from this guy I think he could snap. Jennifer don't believe the horrible things he says to you. He is just trying to destroy your self esteem.  Dr. Phil give her a hug for me.  She sure could use one.

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:51 am PDT

Dangerously in love

I don't usually watch talk shows, but your commercial for this particular show caught my attention. I was lying in the bed scared for this woman. He's seems very dangerous and all I could imagine was him possibly killing her, and blaming it on her before killing himself.  If she really wants to get away, I hope that why they were there taping your show she had her mother or someone get her kids and belongings and move them somewhere safe. My prayers go out to this woman and her family.
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:52 am PDT

Get out my dear girl

 I have never in my life registered and posted a message, but after coming across Dr. Phil last night I could not believe what I was seeing and felt compelled to do something.

Myself and my sixteen year old daughter watched this show like we were watching the events of 911, he and her situation were that horrific to us.  This man is sick and we beg of you Dr. Phil not to fix this situation, but to point out the exit door for this woman and provide her with the means to obtain complete freedom from this man!  If I need to I will help.

The lengths that this man has gone to in order to keep control over her is bound to excalate, he will promise the moon, but deliver only fear and eventually violence when he realizes he has lost controlled.

I too had been in an abusive relationship when I was in my teens-early twenties.  I can only say that love is not suppose to hurt, demean or hold someone down.  The abuse will most certainly get worse and he will never change within this relationship the dynamic has been hard-wired for that.  He may have a chance with therapy to avoid it in his next relationship.

Please protect this woman and her children from this monster in the making.  I do not want to read about another tragic end to a great woman's life who tried for the "children's sake" to make it work.  The effects on her children already will take numerous years to undo.
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:55 am PDT

Husband and Wife

Well first off I think he did not just automically become obbessive with his wife during there first years of marriage I am sure later as of day we will found out that she has cheated on him. If she is so worried about getting pregant she is the one that has control over that situation there is several birth control methods out there and if she has a myspace account she should have gave him her password showing she has nothing to hide  and if your a married woman you should not need men as a friend your husband should be your best friend and thats the only one you need to complete you! So I can understand on his part! Sorry Ladies!
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:55 am PDT

Placing blame on her is no better than her husband

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Men like Jeffrey don't have to have a reason to act the way they do.  I never even came close to cheating on my ex-husband in 20 years and he acted just like Jeffrey - the older he got, the worst it got....I finally realized that is wasn't about me at all, or my actions.  It was about him and his insecurities.  So yes, it probably would have "come to this if she had not cheated in the first place"  Her cheating didn't cause this....he did.   By the way, my ex-husband cheated on me plenty of times in the 20 years...I never acted like Jeffrey...not even close.  Blaming her is giving him the excuse he wants to act however he wants.

     This is amazing to me and there are people out there that believe she has ANY ROLE in this behavior he has chose!!!!!! An I told you so attitude that shows a lack of empathy for others. Unbelievable!

 

 

I know this guy has some bad mental problems and I hope he realizes he needs help and takes the help Dr Phil is offering and i hope his wife realizes what cheating can cause. 

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:57 am PDT

Not the same

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Please do not judge Jennifer.  I am in a way in the same situation, maybe not to the extreme but it has only been 5 yrs, not yet 11.  I am a mother of 4 and married to a very mentally abusing and controlling husband.  I have tried to leave 2 and like Jennifer her cuts off everything and makes it impossible to leave.  When you have children and you can't even afford to buy food what do you do.  I even tried getting a lawyer who because I could not pay would not help.  My husband has cheated on me 5 times once even giving me an STD.  I will say this last time he left and was living with another women I did have a short affair.  It is so hard when the one person who is supposed to love you always belittles you, and it is easy to get caught up when someone actually talks nice to you!  Lately he let my car get repo'd while he drives a $46,000 truck so now I am trapped at home.  Like Jennifer I don't have any friends because they are scared of my husband.  They tell us we are crazy and sometimes I feel like it,  because the things they do to us makes us feel crazy.  If Jennifer is having an affair or talking on email, do not judge her you have not been in her shoes.  Its amazing what you will do right or wrong to still feel human and alive and to have someone to say nice things. 

 

I am looking forwad to the advice Dr. Phil gives Jennifer maybe it can help me and many other!!

 Madam:

Your situation is not the same as Jennifer's. Do you have the freedom to go out at night and stay out till 3:30am ? You can get a court order to keep him away from you and to give you child support and alimony, you don't need to pay for a lawyer.
Jennifer is calculating cheater and controlling and should get an academy award for her performance on national TV.
Yes there are women who are abused and are trapped by sadistic unloving husbands, but this is not the case here.
Jeff needs to let her go forever and try to control his emotions, she is not worthy of his devotion.
He just wants to love her and for her to love him. You can't blame him for that.
 
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April 27, 2007, 6:57 am PDT

are you freaking insane?

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The guy may be wrong headed but he isn't a criminal.  he has not crossed that line yet, and we should not judge him like he's done something ilegal to her.  If he can prove the she cheated on him, nothing thast he done to her is against the law.  He has not cheated on her, he has not physicaly abused her.  Going onto his computer and checking a myspace page?  Putting a GPS device in his Car before she drives it?  I look at him and I see somebody who is being very immature.  He has a very beautiful wife, and he probably will not find another wife like her; but based on what I saw, he appears to be far better prepared for a divorce case than she is.  great episode though, I really wish the best for these two people and their children.  personally I don't believe people should get divorced as often as they do, not only because of my belief in the Bible and it's teachings, but also love of family,  Children are the future, and courts do not make happy families regardless of how bad a situation is.  Infidelity, drugs, and violence really should be the only reasons for divorce and that is just not the case here.  She is having a mid-life crisis and wants to sleep with other people because she is no longer attracted to her husband and then blames her husband for all the crazy things he does.  Is that any reason to divorce?  Some say it is, but i think it's very selfish on her part as well.   If I ever got divorced, I would assume, that my kids would get divorced, and their kids, and their kids, and their kids too.  I think about things in those terms and I know not everybody does, but to me it all seems very, very selfish.  This is actually the first episode of Dr. Phil I have ever watched.  I don't hate him or anything, I just don't usualy watch television.  Last week i was flipping through channels and came across a commercial for tonight's episode and have been waiting for it all week.

Jeffery overstepped all boundaries when he quit treating Jennifer as a wife and changed her into his possession.  Yikes to you ... a marriage is a partnership not I own you and you are attached to my hip. 

 

I lived 22 years of that only to find out that now ... he was wrong, very wrong but I believe he was right.  His numerous affairs I forgave him ... because he came home to me and thank heavens I did not half to sleep with him that night.  Did I ever have an affair ... very close on the internet ... the other side of the internet tells you everything you need to hear ... I am getting wiser.

 

You should also wisen up young man ... control freaks, bullies are out there and they hurt the innocent everyday

 
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April 27, 2007, 6:57 am PDT

obsessive love:the drama continues

She needs to leave him and get on with her life, she is a very pretty lady and for her husband to obsess over her, he has a real problem. No women should be ever called the names that he calls her she is a beautiful women and she needs to take care of herself and her children. He needs to get help. I was in a 14 year old marrige with a alcholoic and one day, no money I left, better off for myself. That is what she needs to do. I am happily married the 2nd time for 5 years now and I have full custody of my daughter and I do not regret it for one minute.
 
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