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Topic : 04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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Created on : Friday, April 20, 2007, 02:40:41 pm
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Jeffrey and Jennifer's shocking and complicated story continues. During their 11-year marriage, Jeffrey has become so obsessed with Jennifer, he watches her every move. He has installed a GPS system in her car, taps her phone conversations, takes inappropriate pictures of her and watches her while she sleeps. Dr. Phil probes deep into Jeffrey's mind to find out why he acts the way he does. Is there any boundary Jeffrey won't cross when it comes to controlling his wife? Then, how are Jennifer and Jeffrey's three children being affected by the madness in the house? Their eldest child has been an eyewitness to his father's schemes. And, while Dr. Phil speaks one on one with Jennifer, Jeffrey has a total meltdown backstage, becoming physically ill. When Dr. Phil confronts him about his anxieties and offers a solution, will Jeffrey choose to make a change? Don’t miss the second part of this dramatic and emotional story, and find out if this family is on the path to healing or headed to divorce court.  Join the discussion.

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April 27, 2007, 2:31 pm PDT

YOU are SOOOOOOO wrong!!

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If she wanted out of that marriage, she would find a way.  I think she likes the attention and his money!!

You are so dreadfully wrong!!!  I grew up with an extremely physically abusive, controlling, manipulative father -- who reminds me very much of Jeff (except Jeff is not physically abusive).  My father married my mother when she was young and naieve (18 years old) -- just like Jeff married Jennifer at 19 years old.  Very quickly Jeff had Jennifer under his control, and if you think that it would be easy to leave a person that manipulates and controls  -- then just thank God that you have never been in that position.  Obviously, you haven't been in that position; otherwise, you would completely understand why women stay in abusive relationships.  Don't judge Jennifer until you've walked in her shoes -- and I hope you never do.
 
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April 27, 2007, 2:31 pm PDT

What I want!

The more I here about what Jeffrey wants, the more I believe he needs to separate from his family! Jeffery has never said, I need to do what is best for Jennifer and the children. Jennifer needs to be free so that she can heal. Jeffery needs to be in treatment and away from the family.

It may be years before they may reconcile ,if it should happen at all. Jeffery needs to learn to let go of control. Jeffery needs to be confined. Jennifer needs to disappear until it is healthy and safe to meet or never meet agan. As hard as it maybe, it must happen! The children's  and Jennifer's mental health welfare and safety are at stake.

 
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April 27, 2007, 2:31 pm PDT

Well,

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You might be right.  My divorce was pretty nasty.  But I know from experience that my wife didn't cheat on me because of the way I treated her.  She did it with a co-worker.  Now this was over 20  years ago, and that's a long time.  The point is she cheated on me less than a year after us getting married.  If I was so bad to her, then why would she have cheated in such a short period of time.  The fact is she came from a poor family and I was her prince charming who took her away from the trailor.  But when things didn't turn out the way she expected (By her own words) and we didn't own the nice things she wanted, this led to both of us fighting and argueing.  In time, when I got orders to go overseas, she became close to a friend of mine in our former Church and this guy, who was married, had an affair with her.

 

My lesson learned was to watch for woman who expensive, shop too much, spend money out of control, and try using sex to obatin what they want.

 

Jennifer posting her photos on the web is nothing more than fish looking for the right bate.  If she bites the wrong bate, she spits it out!  Only this guy will end up giving her money...LOTS OF IT, and I'm quite sure she's not disappointed.

 

As for what happened to me, I've been remarried now for almost 10 years, and I found someone who's responsible with money; not irresposible, much less thinks about cheating.  We both love each other.

 

Besides, if Jennifer was driven to the insanity of cheating, she wouldn't have ran those covert operations of her life style.  And what kind of a woman has a man in their house, even knowing the husband is coming home....where were the kids?

 

I'm glad you're now happily married.

 
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April 27, 2007, 2:32 pm PDT

OBSESSSIVE LOVE

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I was in the same kind of marriage for 18 yrs.  At first I thought with time he would come to trust me more.  I was wrong.  It only got worst.  I worked 40 hrs a week and never gave him reason to mistrust me.  He only worked part time when he did work.  I wanted our marriage to work I wanted our children to have both father and mother.  But instead they were suffering.  I didn't want them to think it was ok to treat or be treated in this manner. 

Finally one nite while my husband was in a jealous rage a neighbor called the police. It was awful, at 3:00 in the morning the red lights were flashing throughout the whole neighborhood.  They took my husband to jail for domestic violence.  One police officer talked to me it was simple.  I was allowing him to do this to me and my children.

At 8:00 am the next morning I went to court and filed a restraining order on him so he could be served while in jail.  I would not live like this one more day. It was the best thing I could have done.  I packed his things, his friend came and picked them up and I never looked back. 

My children asked "what took you so long". We were divorced the same year. 

It has been almost 10 years since that nite I'm remarried to a wonderful man.  He trusts me he respects me and loves my children.  If I want to go to the city for a day of shopping, or out for a drink with the girls.  no problem, as long as he doesnt have to go shopping he hates it.  Please tell Jennifer to get out of this mess.  Her husband will never change.  We only come thru this life once. She deserves to have one.  And so does her children.  If he has to go to jail so be it.  He has destroyed who she is and who she wants to be.  She needs to grow her wings and go and never, never look back...  She's in my prayers. 

Your message is the only one that I totally agree with.

 

You had the strength and courage to make a better life for you and your children.

 
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April 27, 2007, 2:32 pm PDT

He does not deserve a chance

Seeing this story brought back painful memories from my first marriage, not nearly as bad, yet  the controlling was crazy.  The thing that surprised me the most is that I was a victim of it.  I thought I was an intelligent woman, had my act together, yet this man somehow got in my head and controlled me.  He also made sure I did not have friends, I was timed when I went to the grocery store, went crazy if I wanted to get my nails done, if I took more time that normal doing my makeup, etc..So many things, luckily the memories are finally leaving.  I don't know how it happened.  Like this man's wife, I too felt trapped.  I had 2 small children, low on income, excuse, excuse, excuse, thought I was doing the right thing "staying for the kids".  One day, I woke up, I was 33, and there was this huge lightbulb going off, it said, "You have the lived the last10 years in misery, is this how you want to live the rest of your life?"  I drove to an attorney, filed papers, looked for an apartment, and did it.  Yes, it was hard, I had no family support, but I sure learned that I was an intelligent woman and though times got hard, I did it, I could take care of myself.  A friend told me when I did this and when I was so distraught, a year from now things will be so different.  How true those words were.  Exactly a year from the day I left my ex, I met my husband.  I wasn't looking to meet him, but it worked out.  We have been happily married for 7 years, been together for almost 9.  In the beginning it was hard for me to take compliments from him, it was just hard, but he was so sweet, he even told me, "Wow, your ex really did a number on you".  I could beat myself up everyday for letting that evil man do to me whatever he did, but you know, that part of my life made me who I am today.  I do remember saying to my ex, why don't you just hit me, it won't hurt as long.   WOW, he was, and is to this day, such a jerk.  Since he lost his control on me, he has tried doing it to our children.  Our son is 18 and has always lived with his dad, my daughter is 16, and though it took several years, these two children began seeing on their own the whole picture.  My ex will die a lonely man.

I understand why Dr. Phil wants to help this psycho man, but all the rehab in the world will not help.  As with any addictions, etc YOU GOTTA WANNA!  I fear if he does not attempt this rehab program, he will take the children and harm them and his wife.  But she needs to take her babies, and run as far away, hopefully to her loving family for support and years of therapy for her and the kids.  I would never allow this man unsupervised visits with his children.  My heart aches for you , but it is true, a year from now things will be so different.  The best part is, YOU CAN DO IT!

 
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April 27, 2007, 2:33 pm PDT

NO

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I would have to agree with you in a sense. I think that a part of her likes the attention, she didn't appear to be really that distraught on stage. She was faking the tears too! If she really wanted, she could very well find a way out of the relationship. She's a con as well!!!

 

Lashawnna

I DISAGREE!!  She was a child when she married him.  I think that she is afraid of what he is capable of.   He obviosly has demonstrated, on more than one occassion,  that he will always go that next step.  She doesn't want the attention!!   I had thought  Dr. Phil had lost his mind for not telling her to RUN and run fast.   But once again his wisdom showed me the "Way"!   Jeffery was STILL focused on himself and his needs and wants at the end of the show!!  He was still blaming her when he said  "I know that you can be a terrific woman and I want to be the man who can make this family the best that it can be."  That is a load of self serving bull.  He wants all the attention from whom ever is in the room. The only reason he was complacent with Dr. Phil was because he felt that all the attention was on HIM.   He is a maniplitive, sick person who is going to need more than weeks to fix.   This is sooo a lifetime movie in the making.  I just hope that he doesn't hurt someone.  Her tears were real.  If she were the con she would have contacted the show.   She can control herself because his behavoir has demanded that from her for 11 years!!   Prime example of  an abused person.
 
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April 27, 2007, 2:33 pm PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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 JEFFREY REALLY DOES NEED PSYCHIATRIC TREATMENT, JENNIFER ONLY ADDED FUEL TO THE FIRE. SHE CHEATED ON THIS MAN , SHE GOES TO BARS WITH OTHER MEN. WHAT DOES SHE EXPECT....AND I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT DR.PHIL DIDN'T ADDRESS HER INFIDELITY........
This is justifieable infidelity.  The poor woman wanted love and attention, and she certainly wasn't getting it from crazy boy.  I don't promote infidelity, but if she really did cheat. so what.
 
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April 27, 2007, 2:34 pm PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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Weren't you paying ANY attention ??????? He doesn't have any money, he's to busy stalking his wife to go to work!

It is easy for people that haven't been in this situation to come up with great ideas, which seem simple at the time.  This women has been caged for years.  Imagine being caged like a animal and the things you might do to survive. 

As I watched this man turning on the tears back stage, I noticed he would say " I want to be in a marriage and have the family".  It's all about him, not about any other people, including his children.  He is controlling and cares only about HIS needs.  He recognized he has a problem, a few times at that, but always fired his counselors.  He became desperate and called Dr. Phil only because he recognized he was loosing his family.  She should take this opportunity to make plans for her and her children's future without him when he returns from therapy. This man needs LONG term help and I don't think he will be able to change.  I am scared for her and her children. 

 This man has totally lost it.  He came over too fakey to me and there are pro's out there that can even fool Dr. Phil.  And I think this man is one of them.  Of course he doesn't have any money because he can't get out of bed in the mornings to work because like I said before, he has realized he is coming very close to loosing his family. 

 I am wondering if she will be able to not "keep looking over her shoulder" wondering if he will slip back to his old ways once he gets out of therapy.

 
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April 27, 2007, 2:36 pm PDT

So wrong, the children should not lose their fatheir father just because the parents cannot get along.

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While Dr. Phil has the husband tucked away in therapy, the wife and kids need to go into a witness protection type situation, where he can never find them again.  Those kids should NEVER see him again, and she should be free!

He never stopped her from going anywhere.  He just followed her and spied on her.  It did not stop her from bringing men into their home or picking up men in bars, or sending men innapropriate pictures of herself over the internet.  Was she thinking of the kids while doing this for 11 years?  NO. 

 

So many women make this mistake when they split with their spouses or boyfriends.  They try to punish them by keeping the chidren from them, but in the end the children are just as hurt in being denied time with their fathers. 

 
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April 27, 2007, 2:36 pm PDT

Why does it seems like she is the only victim?

She cheated within the first year of marriage and I wonder if that is the reason why he does not trust her.I don't agree that what he is doing is right,because yes,he has a problem.I think they both need counceling and time to work on their marriage and to gain trust in her again.I think he is very mentally ill and I hope this works for him.

 
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