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Topic : 04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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Jeffrey and Jennifer's shocking and complicated story continues. During their 11-year marriage, Jeffrey has become so obsessed with Jennifer, he watches her every move. He has installed a GPS system in her car, taps her phone conversations, takes inappropriate pictures of her and watches her while she sleeps. Dr. Phil probes deep into Jeffrey's mind to find out why he acts the way he does. Is there any boundary Jeffrey won't cross when it comes to controlling his wife? Then, how are Jennifer and Jeffrey's three children being affected by the madness in the house? Their eldest child has been an eyewitness to his father's schemes. And, while Dr. Phil speaks one on one with Jennifer, Jeffrey has a total meltdown backstage, becoming physically ill. When Dr. Phil confronts him about his anxieties and offers a solution, will Jeffrey choose to make a change? Don’t miss the second part of this dramatic and emotional story, and find out if this family is on the path to healing or headed to divorce court.  Join the discussion.

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April 27, 2007, 5:28 am PDT

Someone please answer this

I know what he is doing is extremely wrong but I do have some questions maybe someone can answer.

 

From what I gathered, he did not start this obsession until after he caught her cheating.  He caught her again when he called from Florida and drove 16 hours to get home and caught them.  Now, you know that there probably is more than these two affairs, especially if he travelled in this situation. 

 

My question is that he called home and found out she had someone over there when he was in Florida.  When he got home, he was still there (and got the crap kicked out of himself).

 

1.  Where were the kids when she invited this guy over?  He was still there after he drove 16 hours from Florida!!

 

2.  Vice wasting time having an affair with this guy when he was out of town, why didn't she take action on getting a TRO and filing for divorce?  This brings me to the next question.....

 

3.  Does she live on the drama?  Did she warn her lover on how jealous and suspicious her husband is or did she set their relationship up for more drama?

 

I'm not justifying his actions.  I'm am questioning her train of thought.

 

 
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April 27, 2007, 5:30 am PDT

INSANE

Nothing shocks me more than women who justify cheating, as if no emotional response is required.  What mother wouldn't be upset if their kids turn on them?  Yet they feel it's okay to turn their kids away from the father.

 

Jeffrey needs to get a grip and let her go.  She's apparently cheating.  When ever a woman wants to get back at their husband, taking sex away, yelling at him, calling him abusive names, or talking against him to their friends, are all indicators that she fell out of love with him.  But women can't seem to deal with cheating as men do.  Women need a reason to cheat, and usually force a reason by treating their husband cold.  Men cheat and do it without the slightest guilt, unless they're caught.  LOL!

 

Jennifer is giving strong signs of cheating, and her husband had every right to be upset and not trusting his wife, who just happens to use her "WORK" computer to chat with her so called "Friends".  I've heard this before.  LOL!

 

Jeffrey needs to get help and leave his wife before he hurts himself or her.  He's reacting to an emotional distress caused by her suspected unfaithfulness.  Can it be proven she's cheating?  Just from the little reading and watching the TV, you betcha!  She won't leave him because she's afraid.  What she needs to do is get up and go.  I was married before and my ex wife slept with TWO of her so called "Friends".  LOL!  But she needed a reason to be angry with me.  So telling me she cheated was one way.

 

Let her go Jeffrey!  She's already jumped the fense to taste the other grass.  Why would you want trampled ground anways?  Stop wasting your time on a woman who's apparenlty not interested in you anymore, but still loves your money.

 

Jennifer, you need to leave and play the field.  It's obvious you want to experiment and taste other flavors.....so get to it.  Just make sure you wear protection.  I'm sure you'll find your heart break one day when you meet the man you love with all your heart, and he too turns on  you.

 
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April 27, 2007, 5:31 am PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

I think everyone is being a little hard on him! This is a guy that needs help, and came on national television to do so. He is the one that wrote in requesting Dr. Phil's help; this is something he has recognized that needs to stop. He has not laid a hand on her in 11 years, what makes everyone think he is going to go to the extreme and kill her???!!! This isn't something I think is right by any means, but I think him being on TV admitting everything and being completely honest is a HUGE step in the right direction. There are many crazy men out there that do these sorts of things and being physically abusive too, that never admit what there doing is wrong, he is a guy that sees the wrong and wants to change! I'm surprised in the responses to leave him, divorce him! What happened to death do us part, through SICKNESS and in health!!

 
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April 27, 2007, 5:32 am PDT

Obsessive Love

I wept as I watched your show on obsessive love.  I feel so much for this woman who is going through this.  It brought back painful memories of my own experience.   I mistook my ex's obsesion for me as love.  I would say to myself, "He must really love me if he wants to be with me all the time."  Not realizing it was a control issue.  I was constantly accused of cheating.  If I spoke to a male neighbor or the male clerk in the store, I must be want them.  When I wore sunglasses in the summer, it was because I wanted to look at other men without getting caught.  He didn't want me to color my hair or wear makeup, as this might make me attractive to other men.  He videotaped me as I showered.  He drilled a small hole in my bedroom wall so that he could watch me from another room.  He put a wire tap on our phone, he read my personal letters from family and friends, he disabled the car so I couldn't drive it, he told outlandish stories to people about my cheating and how crazy I was.  He put me down constantly in front of our children.  I never cheated on him, I was too afraid of what he would do not just to me, but to the guy.  The irony of the story is, after 24 years of marriage, he left me for another woman, who is more of a door mat than I was.  I nearly had a nervous breakdown, I couldn't believe that after all I had been through, how I stuck it out, that he would be the one to leave.  But honestly, it was the best thing that ever happened to me.  I am so happy and healthy (after therapy) and my life is truly wonderful.  To the wife on the show I say, you need therapy as much as your husband, because you need to find out why you are taking this abuse.  There is a way out, go for it.  I too felt trapped and thought I couldn't leave for the same reasons that you have, but please, please do it for yourself and your children.  God bless you.
 
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April 27, 2007, 5:46 am PDT

Id like to know

Id like to know where the Hell you get the courage to leave? I have left 7 times and have always came back. He comes to me crying saying he'll change and he does for a awhile. He used to hit me but the last time I left and came back he stopped doing thatnoe though its I have no money no job I cant work when I do he thinks part of it is his, I have no firends and the 1 that I do He dosent know about. He has started going through phone bills and called everybody on there so I stopped getting the cell phone bill in the mail. He goes online to see where I have been calls 20 times in a day im wondering if he will get like This man is on tv today. Lord help us all. Since when do marriage vows include  I have the right to Abuse you emotionally,phiscally and emionally??? I didnt remember hearing that.
 
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April 27, 2007, 5:46 am PDT

Leave, Leave Leave!

I left my husband after 10 years for similar actions.  I understand Jennifer's fears.  I feared the same things and stayed for all the wrong reasons.  We too went to counseling and he also fired the therapist because he didn't like what he had to say.  We went to another one and I quit going because he would lie to the therapist about what he was doing.  I went to counseling alone and was told the same thing Dr. Phil said on the show "He will never change".    I too had no money, no job, no college degree and three kids.  My situation became physical on top of everything else, the police wouldn't do anything about it since my husband was one of them.  It was "stay and be killed", or "leave and have a chance at a real life" .  I chose to leave.  IT WAS THE BEST MOVE I HAVE EVER MADE FOR MYSELF AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THE CHILDREN.  My advice to Jennifer is to leave.  You will be fine!  My ex did stalk and harass me for 2 years after I left him and I am still fearful that he will continue to stalk me and  may try to kill me.  I don't let it control my life anymore.  My focus is my children and myself.  Leave before he physically hurts you!  Leave for your own sanity.  Leave for your children.  You will thank yourself for it someday.  You will see a lot of change in yourself and your children.  You are somebody, you are not worthless.  You are out of his league and he knows it.  He will never find anyone as wonderful as you.  There are thousands of us women out there to support you!  It will be hard at first but it will be so worth it!      

 
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April 27, 2007, 5:49 am PDT

Thats to bad

 

  It seems to me that Dr. Phil and everyone else is not seeing how little Miss innocent has had more than one affair. She has given this man all these feeling of insecurities. If she had sex with her husband instead of other men he wouldn't be behaving this way. I don't excuse his behavior but, sometimes when your heart is broken and someone you love is cheating and going to a bar with a MALE coworker it makes you feel so hurt you do crazy things. I say the man gets help and then kicks his UNLOVING, and cheating wife to the curb. She is only there for his money.    Get help jeffrey!!!!!! Noone in this world is worth your sanity so much so you start doing crazy things and put all the focus on your self instead of that cheating spouse of yours!!!!  Goodluck Jeffrey! and as for you Jennifer, don't cheat and make someone feel so hurt and rotten. Dr. Phil needs to help you on cheating and lying my friend.

 
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April 27, 2007, 5:54 am PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

 

 Regarding the stalking, obcessive husband - he is a nut case - somehow, however, I believe she is enjoying all the attention this whole matter affords her.  During the show, she acts like she is crying - except there seems to be no tears!  She has got to know everything he is doing - I wonder if she plays into his plans.  I wish her luck.

 
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April 27, 2007, 5:58 am PDT

to the husband

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I am concerned that this man is so over-the-top that if his wife chooses to divorce him he may harm her.  How can her saftey be assured?  I do not think that it can.

 

I am a woman. However, I understood you. I did something similar to what you are doing now. I got it over. I recovered. God bless you to get it over as well. I am soo sorry to see how you are suffering. You will get it over. Please, believe me that it is possible. It will be a time when you will feel good.

 

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April 27, 2007, 5:59 am PDT

This is not LOVE!

I left a 14 year relationship, similiar to this one, almost a year ago. I waited until my youngest son went away to college because I was afraid of what he might do. 

 Jennifer needs to find a way out that is safe. I'm not sure how she can do that with 3 young children. I believe that this man will go after her and harm her, only because he doesn't care what he does or the consequences of his actions. 

 
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