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Topic : 04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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Jeffrey and Jennifer's shocking and complicated story continues. During their 11-year marriage, Jeffrey has become so obsessed with Jennifer, he watches her every move. He has installed a GPS system in her car, taps her phone conversations, takes inappropriate pictures of her and watches her while she sleeps. Dr. Phil probes deep into Jeffrey's mind to find out why he acts the way he does. Is there any boundary Jeffrey won't cross when it comes to controlling his wife? Then, how are Jennifer and Jeffrey's three children being affected by the madness in the house? Their eldest child has been an eyewitness to his father's schemes. And, while Dr. Phil speaks one on one with Jennifer, Jeffrey has a total meltdown backstage, becoming physically ill. When Dr. Phil confronts him about his anxieties and offers a solution, will Jeffrey choose to make a change? Don’t miss the second part of this dramatic and emotional story, and find out if this family is on the path to healing or headed to divorce court.  Join the discussion.

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April 27, 2007, 11:40 am PDT

I wonder

Tyrannize: To rule or control completely.

Connive:To ignore a known wrong,therefore implying sanction; to conspire; to cooperate in secret.

Alienate: tranfer; estrange.

   I don't beleive that his behavior, any longer, has anything to do with the affairs that she had early on in their marrage! Remember they have been together for 11 years. If that was the case has she been serving a 8 or 9 year sentence for those affairs? I don't think so, its so far beyond that now.

  Will he turn this behavior towards his children? Has he already done so? They had to have been in the house when he turns the heat up, is he taking pictures of them too? (his daughters)

Will they be allowed friends and relatives into their lives? I beleive that his obsession will turn to them when they are a little older and want to have freinds over or take part in school/church activities. Will they grow up to model this behavior? How  are they dealing with the situations that have taken place aready? What do they feel? Is he monitoring their every move? If he is not now , I beleive he will. He will have beaten their self esteen down as well,  and he will call the girls the same names that he calls his wife.

  I saw at the end of the show how Jennifer felt sorry for the way Jeffery was feeling and she reached out toward him, and I felt "oh no" she actually feels sorry for him. That is exactly what he wants. Then I thought " well if she does love him and wants to try to save this union then by all means she should try." But  she is so young and naive, does she really knows how she feels?

 Jeffery truely does need deep intense help and I hope he can get it.

I truely hope that all of them can be healed!

 

 

 

 

 
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April 27, 2007, 11:42 am PDT

Response concerning Jennifer-From me Lisa

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I am concerned that this man is so over-the-top that if his wife chooses to divorce him he may harm her.  How can her saftey be assured?  I do not think that it can.

I really enjoyed reading what you wrote. I think that she will be as safe when she leaves. This man is only powerful because she is giving him permission. Once a man like this one loses his power, I am only 24 years old but I have been through enough to know that he won't continue. Her fear is provoking him because some men seek this. When a woman starts screaming or feels fearful they become stronger. Their goals to hurt them become stronger. Do you remember the stories of Cinderella? She got locked up, and her step mother no longer had power once she was free. I think that that is the lesson of that story, but I think that there are many others as well, of course I change that around when I am around kids:) This works the same way. She is free once she says and continues to say no. The problem is that he will move on to another girl. The more powerful he feels the more dangerous that he becomes. He would have already done something more to Jennifer and his kids if he was going to, this is just a game to him, and she needs to stand up for herself, but he needs to go away in this case for her to do that, and that is one of the reasons why he is doing what he is doing so that he can control and manipulate because this is the way that he likes to live his life.

 
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April 27, 2007, 11:43 am PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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Nooooooooooo !  You are totally innocent !

 

Sheesh !  NOT !!!!

 

Bringing men home to your house while your kids are sleeping. Getting caught in your own bed with another man. 2 years after they were married she was screwing around...and she's still doing it !

 

DISGUSTS ME !!

 

Yes her children do deserve better.

 

They should be taken away from them...and the parents should both be put away !

 

God forbid they give her custody, chances are she'll end up meeting up with another abuser and where will her kids be then...watching every Tom, Dick and Harry walk through her 'revolving door'

 

 

Is this Jeffery trying to "CONTROL" the message board.  Because any one with any sense would see your situation with far more clarity.  Sorry buddy.  Nice try...

 
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April 27, 2007, 11:43 am PDT

Can relate in Cleveland TN too well

My sister-in-law WAS married to a man with the very same type of compulsive,obsessive behavior as this man.  We have been talking about this show and see a lot of very real characteristics.  The watching her, taping her, wanting to know her every move, use of drugs and handcuffs.  Her ex-husband is a very sick man and has managed to escape any trouble from the law due to the manipulation game with her and the law enforcement officials.  She was held hostage in her own home for weeks at a time with no contact from her family.  Her parents at that time only lived maybe 50 feet from her and he even restricted the contact with them.  Control is what he had and she still suffers to this day from all that horror in her past.  Her divorce was final in 1995 and the craziness and torment is still very much present to this day.  Games with the family their daughter in particular, begging to have sex with her still.  She definitely can relate to what this woman is going through.  Her children will suffer the consequences for the rest of their lives because of this bizarre behavior.  My niece is 18 years old now and has been into some trouble, counseling and court and awful relationships, her grades are up and down and her dreams have been shattered for what she originally wanted to do with her life.  The behavior that this family is seeing will filter down to the children, there is no way around it.  My sister-in-law wants me to express from her that she can only wish that your guest would get as far away from this man as she possibly can.  To free herself and the children while she can, while that is still an option beofre something terrible happens to them.  She is mortified with the thought that there is a video, sexual and nudity and that he masturbates to this and she has no control of this and can not covince him to give the video to her.  And your guest is obviuosly going through similar circumstances and something has to be done.  Our hearts go out to this woman and her children and wish that she will take the steps to start over.  My sister-in-law was left with nothing but everyday she takes step by step to continue to rebuild.  Please let her know TIGERS DO NOT CHANGE THEIR STRIPES!!!!!!
 
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April 27, 2007, 11:44 am PDT

she is not innocent

I can't stop thinking about the show yesterday... I think the whole situation is sad. There are so many different opinions and responses to this situation. I am so sick of people feeling sorry for her though. I am not at all taking his side or trying to defend him. He is wrong period, but she is guilty too. I'm tired of people saying that cheating is not a big deal and that she was so young and still wanted to have fun and enjoy life. Well so sorry.. she chose to marry him even if she was only 19. She is a married woman and should act like one. It made me sick to watch her up on stage acting like she is innocent and a victim. I wanted to vomit. I can't imagine the pain and fear she must feel but I believe her actions have led to some of the problem. She cheated and she certainly doesn't deserve any of this treatment from her husband... but people need to quit babying her and say "oh honey, it's ok you cheated... oh poor baby.. you poor little victim." It needs to stop. She is guilty and I think that needs to be addressed as well. They are both quilty of breaking their marriage a part. ITS EQUAL even though his is way more extreme!!!!!!!!!

 
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April 27, 2007, 11:46 am PDT

Just the Facts..K.I.S.S.

 

 Keeping it Simple

  • He's in need of psychiatric help.
  •  She's very possibly in physical danger.
  •  She wants out of the marriage.
  • He will do anything to stay married to her.
  • He's obsessed and exhibits disturbing and possibly dangerous behaviourisms.
  •  She's had affairs - in her home - outside her home.
  •  She's in need of psychiatric help.
  • She went out with male work mate - friend - and lied to him.
  • He has reason to be suspicious.
  • He has no right to violate her privacy.
  • He has no right to hold her prisoner in any capacity.
  • They have both indicated that they have taken nude photos and shared them with others.
  • They both exhibit deviant behaviours.
  • They both needing long term therapy in order to become healthy, productive individuals in society.
  • Their children need therapy to deal with the future break up of the family.
  • Their children will need therapy to deal with their parents behaviour being televised on international television.
  • Their children should never watch re-runs of the Dr. Phil Show, nor should their children's peers to avoid therapy due to the broadcast of their parents behaviour on the Dr. Phil show.

 

 
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April 27, 2007, 11:47 am PDT

Obsessive Love

Although I am certainly NOT condoning his behavior, the wife definitely owns part of the blame, since she was the one screwing around in the first place.  He is definitely nuts, but she is an unfaithful wife.  You reap what you sow in this life and since he wasn't like this until he caught her (and still continues to catch her) fooling around, she's now reaping....I don't know why he would want to stay with her, anyway, if she cheats on him.  Even sending suggestive e-mails on My Space is cheating of sorts.  Cheating to me is anything you do with someone of the opposite sex that you wouldn't want your spouse to find out about. 

 

They should definitely part ways!

 
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April 27, 2007, 11:47 am PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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and I think posts like this are a real danger to abuse victims who are reading here.   
No matter what type of things happen within a marriage there needs to be a line drawn on behavior.  No one needs to be treated with disrespect regardless of an affair.  They should have sought out counseling then and maybe it would have not gotten out of hand as it absolutely has!!!
 
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April 27, 2007, 11:48 am PDT

Dr. Phil, get her & the kids out to somewhere safe & help her start a new life!!!!

This situation is absolutely horrifying and has all the red flags of a potential murder/suicide waiting to happen. Jeffrey has some ultimately serious issues and clearly doesn't want to deal with them. He seriously needs to have a mental evaluation and be committed at least for a short time to get some help. Meanwhile, removing Jennifer and the children to a safe undisclosed place seems to be the only answer.  Yes, she may have made some bad choices in her life, the biggest of course is marrying this dirt bag, but that doesn't give him the right to treat her like he does. He is a true psycho who I wouldn't be surprised to see killing her, the kids, and then himself because he is not a man and is truly worthless.  Dr. Phil has the perfect opportunity to move Jennifer and the kids out before Jeffrey returns home and then help her with starting over until she is on her feet again. Jeffrey needs to be incarcerated. If he isn't, he WILL hurt her!  This show gave me the chills and made me physically sick to my stomach.  Dr. Phil has the chance to turn a horrible situation into a hopeful one so I hope he does just that. 
 
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April 27, 2007, 11:48 am PDT

Criminal behavior

I have one question - Why is this man not in jail?  He is not controlling her...he is victimizing her!!!  He has no insight into his behaviors and blames her for his actions.  She has no choice but to leave him but I fear for her safety.  Please help her.  If there was ever a time that someone needed you... it is now! 

 
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